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legendary
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January 23, 2023, 06:56:49 PM
#63
The thread "I've been hacked Electrum..." must be removed or the title changed as it gives the impression that Electrum is vulnerable. How Julerz've been hacked has nothing to do with Electrum itself.
If you are looking for what to do and what not to do to keep your wallet safe then you will find an infinity of threads which will help you in your quest.
Just download it from the official website and verify its signature then follow the above suggestions and you should be fine.
legendary
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January 23, 2023, 08:55:34 AM
#62
If you actually do this, you wouldn't use most service and software from big tech company such as Google, Microsoft and Facebook.
That wouldn't be such a bad thing. Tongue

And such benefit would be negated if you configure Electrum to use Tor and you install Tor service on your online device.
Well, not entirely, since whichever servers you connect to via Tails will still be able to link all the addresses in that wallet together. You can break the link between different wallets (provided you change circuits) and the link between your wallets and your IP address, but not between different addresses in the same wallet.
legendary
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January 22, 2023, 03:29:39 AM
#61
I agree with others, something that has been hacked before would never give me trust ever again, it would not be possible at all for me to trust it and use it.
Do you use a centralized exchange? They have all been hacked at some point.

This is why I believe that we should be focusing a lot more towards finding something that has never been hacked or never had any bugs etc etc before
This is an unobtainable standard. Every piece of software in existence has bugs in it. Bitcoin itself has had a number of critical bugs, probably the worst of which resulted in 92 billion bitcoin being created out of thin air.

For the online wallet, use another tails os to put your xpub. You will pass the psbts with qr codes or burned cds. not usbs.
What's the benefit of your online wallet being on another instance of Tails, as opposed to just your usual OS? Provided your computer is clean, free from malware, and your watch only wallet is connecting exclusively to your own node, I don't see what is to be gained by using Tails for this part? I suppose the benefit comes if you are not connecting to your own node at all and are just using third party Electrum servers?
newbie
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January 22, 2023, 12:49:50 AM
#60
The easiest way to use electrum offline is to make two tails OS usbs. One should be offline and the other online. You should preferably have a dedicated offline computer, but if you don't, just run the offline tails os in airplane mode.

For the online wallet, use another tails os to put your xpub. You will pass the psbts with qr codes or burned cds. not usbs.
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January 21, 2023, 06:38:51 PM
#59
I agree with others, something that has been hacked before would never give me trust ever again, it would not be possible at all for me to trust it and use it. Just remember the fact that there were tens of millions of dollars that went away from peoples wallets because of this, and there is no reason we should trust them again.

This is why I believe that we should be focusing a lot more towards finding something that has never been hacked or never had any bugs etc etc before, which would make it a safe thing or at least we know that it has been safe up to that point, and yeah it could still get hacked in the future but why risk it with something that has already done that before?

If it is not reliable then it has not been used and has been around for more than 10 years. Every product in the release period will have bugs at times, but that doesn't mean it can't be fixed in the future. The question is, why do so many people use it with no problem, but you have issues with it? Its the fault of your wallet or yours?
sr. member
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January 21, 2023, 01:49:22 PM
#58
I agree with others, something that has been hacked before would never give me trust ever again, it would not be possible at all for me to trust it and use it. Just remember the fact that there were tens of millions of dollars that went away from peoples wallets because of this, and there is no reason we should trust them again.

This is why I believe that we should be focusing a lot more towards finding something that has never been hacked or never had any bugs etc etc before, which would make it a safe thing or at least we know that it has been safe up to that point, and yeah it could still get hacked in the future but why risk it with something that has already done that before?
legendary
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January 19, 2023, 04:21:58 AM
#57
It's not much, but if someone steals my computer (that happened to me a while ago), the thief will need time to find anything related to crypto on it.
A thief who knows what he is looking for is highly unlikely to just start manually opening random directories in your OS's file explorer to hunt for a wallet. Rather they will just perform an automated search for wallet files, or the Electrum software, or strings which appear in Electrum wallets files, or so on, which will find your wallets almost immediately.

Hiding files like this is false sense of security - security through obscurity, which is a bad idea. A much better idea is to add a strong password to all your wallet files which will encrypt them and keep them safe from attackers. If you want to hide the fact you even have Electrum installed altogether, then either use whole disk encryption or run Electrum directly from a removable USB drive or on a live OS.
hero member
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January 18, 2023, 05:58:27 PM
#56
I've been using Electrum for many years, and I give you some advices to make your computer more secure.

1/ Don't install an Electrum icon, nor a shortcut with another icon on your desktop. The software should be hidden.

2/ Create your own directory to install the software, and give it an innocent name, not Electrum, nor anything related to crypto.

It's not much, but if someone steals my computer (that happened to me a while ago), the thief will need time to find anything related to crypto on it.

Is there a way that the thief would able to access that electrum wallet in case he had stolen your CPU and trying out to access it? We do know that it does have some password
unless if you do put it up obviously on whats your password then all of those coins in that wallet would be swept.Its still hard to bruteforce it out if you dont have that
electrum wallet password which its been mainly asked on the time that you would be accessing the program or wallet.So its still impossible
in this case.
legendary
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January 18, 2023, 05:53:15 PM
#55
I've been using Electrum for many years, and I give you some advices to make your computer more secure.

1/ Don't install an Electrum icon, nor a shortcut with another icon on your desktop. The software should be hidden.

2/ Create your own directory to install the software, and give it an innocent name, not Electrum, nor anything related to crypto.

It's not much, but if someone steals my computer (that happened to me a while ago), the thief will need time to find anything related to crypto on it.
legendary
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January 18, 2023, 04:41:07 PM
#54
Ive been using Electrum for 4-5 years as far as i remember and i didnt make myself being hacked.

1. Install AV
2. Make your windows updated
3. Dont click up on pop up updates (have issues before)
4. Dont download randomly on your PC
5. Put up password that you are the only ones who do have access on your own pc
6. Dont save up PK's on notepads or other text file

Its impossible that there would really be some internal exploit on Electrum itself because it  would really be a big main issue
if its proven.
The tips you shared may be of some use and that is how person should use his device. But we are all different, and this allows some Electrum users to make mistakes that end up self harm and them financially. I've also been using electrum since I got to know bitcoin, I'm grateful it's still safe but really I don't store anything on my PC or smartphone that I use everyday.

Having special device or hardware wallet is more secure, but of course it comes at some cost. For security reasons, the costs may be worth it with the reduced level of risk. But it's all about how a user realizes and how they get used to minimizing risks.
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January 18, 2023, 03:38:24 PM
#53
To minimize the chances of your funds being hacked when using an Electrum wallet, there are several steps you should take:

Use a strong and unique password for your wallet.

Enable two-factor authentication (2FA) for added security.

Keep your computer and software updated to ensure that you have the latest security patches and fixes.

Do not share your seed phrase or private keys with anyone.

Do not use public Wi-Fi or untrusted networks to access your wallet.

Use a hardware wallet to store your private keys offline and away from potential attackers.

Use a cold storage option to store a large amount of cryptocurrency.

Be cautious of phishing scams and do not click on links from unknown sources.

Regularly backup your wallet and keep the backup in a secure and accessible place.

Be aware of the latest security threats and be vigilant when using your wallet online.
sr. member
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January 18, 2023, 03:14:02 PM
#52
Of course, an exchange is like a bank, its not your money anymore. Pray they don't run with it...
Dilemma when saving Bitcoin fund in cold wallet have chance with firmware and something bad happen in our computer, but what did you say is true when holding Bitcoin in exchange is like in the bank and need pray every time for the exchange owner not run away our Bitcoin fund.

Use third party like Bank or exchange we don't have private key for controlling our Bitcoin fund, some thing bad will happen however trusted with exchange used for holding Bitcoin, enough with FTX collapse and  many exchange before become valid proof about can't fully trusted with exchange market as place for saving or holding cryptocurrency assets, if ability like cash money and save it under pillow I will save my Bitcoin or altcoin assets the same like cash money  Smiley.
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January 18, 2023, 02:48:43 PM
#51
If you read this post, I've been hacked (Electrum 4.3.2), you will find that person lost his funds because he did not protect his wallet properly.

I would like people to tell and discuss that after installing Electrum wallet on the computer, what additional steps they should take so that there are minimal chances of their funds being hacked by the intruders and hackers.
Ive been using Electrum for 4-5 years as far as i remember and i didnt make myself being hacked.

1. Install AV
2. Make your windows updated
3. Dont click up on pop up updates (have issues before)
4. Dont download randomly on your PC
5. Put up password that you are the only ones who do have access on your own pc
6. Dont save up PK's on notepads or other text file

Its impossible that there would really be some internal exploit on Electrum itself because it  would really be a big main issue
if its proven.
legendary
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January 18, 2023, 01:06:51 AM
#50
I don't got why like a huge majority of bitcoin/crypto holders wouldn't just buy a Ledger/Trezor. If they just use a reputable hardware wallet and just keep the backup offline, that's pretty secure enough for long-term holding. But nooo, most people wouldn't want to pay a measly <$100 for security.

Well, it might be because most people are not from first world countries ... where the currency is say 20 times stronger than what it is in 3rd world countries. You might think $100 is nothing .... but that is a months salary for many people that are working in 3rd world countries.

Also, not everyone are 100% computer literate..... they might struggle with things like firmware upgrades for these wallets. (Believe me.. I am 200% computer literate and the Ledger Nano firmware upgrade was a pain in the ass)  Wink
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January 17, 2023, 11:09:01 PM
#49
electrum wallet is the industry standard for software wallets. If it wasn't reliable, it wouldn't have been there for almost 9 years.
legendary
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January 16, 2023, 09:43:23 AM
#48
Of course, an exchange is like a bank, its not your money anymore. Pray they don't run with it...
legendary
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January 16, 2023, 05:51:17 AM
#47
Binance is not safe because of two reasons;

1) They can anytime scam or deny your withdrawals and you cannot do nothing
2) They can be hacked and again you will not get back your funds.
Plenty more reasons you can add to that list, looking at all the reasons that other exchanges have collapsed over the last few months. They can be insolvent because they were gambling your money away or handing out incredibly risky under- or non-collateralized loans. Another exchange or bank which they use can shut down, be insolvent, deny them service, etc., and they can end up insolvent because of that. Your government could stop them operating in your jurisdiction, freezing your account and meaning you can no longer access your coins. You can end up a piece of malware on your device which steals your account details or session and empties your accounts. The list is endless.

If possible on the 2FA, the gadget that would receive the combination must be offline or has nothing in common with the gadget from which you operate the wallet.
This is the bare minimum for good 2FA. Having your 2FA authentication using the same device which you use to log in to the account in the first place means compromise of that one device will compromise both of your factors.
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January 16, 2023, 03:14:46 AM
#46
Electrum is a good Bitcoin wallet and I've seen many people say well of it, yet nothing is to be trusted 100%, but if the fault is not from the wallet itself, then you should absorb any blame as your fault if your coin is stolen.

Carelessness in most cases is the reason why money is stone, we should never trust anyone and even our gadget if we want to safeguard anything that is related to the internet.

All the possible security features must be activated on the wallet for proper security with a potent password combination of upper and lower case letters, numbers and others. And nothing must be stored on the computer, phone, and other gadgets. If possible on the 2FA, the gadget that would receive the combination must be offline or has nothing in common with the gadget from which you operate the wallet.
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 08:26:29 PM
#45
So far, Binance is safe and there have not been any cases of asset hacks like the case of julerz12 has encountered but I've also seen a few cases where users were unexpectedly locked out of their accounts by Binance.
Binance have suffered multiple hacks in the past. They were hacked in 2019 for $40 million worth of bitcoin. They were hacked in 2022 for $570 million worth of various altcoins and tokens. They were hacked in 2019 for the KYC data of thousands of users. Binance is not safe.

Binance still handles those cases and users almost always get their accounts back, but it took us a long time.
"Almost always", which means that some users just lose everything and there is nothing they can do about it.

Keeping your coins on any centralized exchange means they are not yours and you could lose them all at any time. It doesn't matter if the exchange in question is Binance. It is not safe.

This is extremely wrong that people start to think that they can't keep the money safe in personalized wallets, so they started to make up mind that binance is safe.

Binance is not safe because of two reasons;

1) They can anytime scam or deny your withdrawals and you cannot do nothing
2) They can be hacked and again you will not get back your funds.

But people think that binance is safer as there is password and 2fa and all these securities while personalized wallets have only private keys and nothing else. I would call it lack of knowledge on the part of users and we need to educate people that decentralized wallets are safer than centralized wallets and exchanges,
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 04:21:52 AM
#44
So far, Binance is safe and there have not been any cases of asset hacks like the case of julerz12 has encountered but I've also seen a few cases where users were unexpectedly locked out of their accounts by Binance.
Binance have suffered multiple hacks in the past. They were hacked in 2019 for $40 million worth of bitcoin. They were hacked in 2022 for $570 million worth of various altcoins and tokens. They were hacked in 2019 for the KYC data of thousands of users. Binance is not safe.

Binance still handles those cases and users almost always get their accounts back, but it took us a long time.
"Almost always", which means that some users just lose everything and there is nothing they can do about it.

Keeping your coins on any centralized exchange means they are not yours and you could lose them all at any time. It doesn't matter if the exchange in question is Binance. It is not safe.
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