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Topic: Do AntMiners comply with FCC Part 15? (Read 1660 times)

sr. member
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June 11, 2015, 05:31:50 PM
#30
I don't think mining is for you if your seriously care whether a chinese bitcoin hardware manufacturer is complying with US FCC regs...lol
Yeah, I know what you mean, but I'm worried about excess RFI.
legendary
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June 11, 2015, 04:55:39 PM
#29
I don't think mining is for you if your seriously care whether a chinese bitcoin hardware manufacturer is complying with US FCC regs...lol
legendary
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June 11, 2015, 07:28:32 AM
#28
Useful thoughts there, thanks. Wondering if this is actually a ground/earth issue at the socket.

Will do some more testing.

Not a problem at all.  Unfortunately they can be hard to find the cause.  If you Google there are a few common ones it could be.

You might bring S3/PSU to friend or family's and test it out there to see what happens to radio there. I think it will still work at their house, but I could be wrong.
hero member
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June 11, 2015, 05:50:30 AM
#27
Useful thoughts there, thanks. Wondering if this is actually a ground/earth issue at the socket.

Will do some more testing.
legendary
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June 11, 2015, 04:48:51 AM
#26
I am pretty confident it is the S3, I have tested the PSU without the AntMiner; and I have tried both mains and battery powered radios; the issue is only apparent when the AntMiner is active.

I should have asked.  But when you say testing the PSU without the antminer did you plug it into something of equal load as the S3? Or did you just turn it on with nothing attached to it?

No, just turned it on I have no other way of loading it, so definitely a possibility, though it is a new Corsair CX750M so I'd hope fairly well made.


There could be lots of possible causes.  It could be anything from the wiring it's self to a device.   With just turning on the PSU it's not putting the load on the wires, so does not show much.

Is it possible that your S3 is causing it?  Yes but highly improvable in my opinion.  You really need something with same load to test the PSU.  I think PSU or wiring, or other causes are most likely. 

The S3 is just built like a tank with metal around it.  But if you are sure it's the S3 you could build a faraday cage around it.   
hero member
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June 11, 2015, 03:19:57 AM
#25
I am pretty confident it is the S3, I have tested the PSU without the AntMiner; and I have tried both mains and battery powered radios; the issue is only apparent when the AntMiner is active.

I should have asked.  But when you say testing the PSU without the antminer did you plug it into something of equal load as the S3? Or did you just turn it on with nothing attached to it?

No, just turned it on I have no other way of loading it, so definitely a possibility, though it is a new Corsair CX750M so I'd hope fairly well made.
legendary
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June 11, 2015, 02:54:50 AM
#24
I am pretty confident it is the S3, I have tested the PSU without the AntMiner; and I have tried both mains and battery powered radios; the issue is only apparent when the AntMiner is active.

I should have asked.  But when you say testing the PSU without the antminer did you plug it into something of equal load as the S3? Or did you just turn it on with nothing attached to it?
hero member
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June 11, 2015, 02:30:10 AM
#23

How bad is reception?  Normally a standard microwave has much much more RF interference.   When you turn on your microwave do those channels stop working?

There is no reception at all on a DAB radio it just shows "station unavailable"; an FM radio just gives static.

I don't have a microwave so can't comment on that.
legendary
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June 11, 2015, 02:07:13 AM
#22
Reviving this thread as I have just acquired a secondhand S3 that seems to produce a ton of RF interference.

No radio (by which I mean normal broadcast FM or DAB radio) will work at all within about 15 feet of the miner.  Unfortunately I haven't a lot of flexibility with siting it and so at the moment I can't use it at all.  Switch the miner on and about 5 seconds later the radio can't find a station (DAB) or just has static (FM).

I'm confident I've isolated it to the miner itself as the cause.

Anyone experienced this or got any ideas how to address it?

Put an Iron case around it..? hehe but really.

Well I have thought about something like that, but ...

A) I'd have to get the cables in somehow; and
B) how would I cool it?

Are you sure it's the S3 putting out the interference? I know I had 4 or so of them in a room and a HAM radio antenna on the roof above.   I never had any issues.

Is the PSU and radio connected to the same electrical circuit?  If so might look at the PSU itself.  I just really don't see the S3's putting out 15 foot of interference.  They are pretty well encased in a nice metal case.

I am pretty confident it is the S3, I have tested the PSU without the AntMiner; and I have tried both mains and battery powered radios; the issue is only apparent when the AntMiner is active.



How bad is reception?  Normally a standard microwave has much much more RF interference.   When you turn on your microwave do those channels stop working?
sr. member
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June 11, 2015, 01:02:58 AM
#21
I used to have a bunch of S1's and S3's powered by ibm dps2000's.When I switched them on I lost about half of the tv-channels.Well they came back after 12-16 hours thou.Wifi worked well.I never bothered to examine what caused it.Those tanks didn't need to reboot very often.
hero member
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June 11, 2015, 12:52:58 AM
#20
Reviving this thread as I have just acquired a secondhand S3 that seems to produce a ton of RF interference.

No radio (by which I mean normal broadcast FM or DAB radio) will work at all within about 15 feet of the miner.  Unfortunately I haven't a lot of flexibility with siting it and so at the moment I can't use it at all.  Switch the miner on and about 5 seconds later the radio can't find a station (DAB) or just has static (FM).

I'm confident I've isolated it to the miner itself as the cause.

Anyone experienced this or got any ideas how to address it?

Put an Iron case around it..? hehe but really.

Well I have thought about something like that, but ...

A) I'd have to get the cables in somehow; and
B) how would I cool it?

Are you sure it's the S3 putting out the interference? I know I had 4 or so of them in a room and a HAM radio antenna on the roof above.   I never had any issues.

Is the PSU and radio connected to the same electrical circuit?  If so might look at the PSU itself.  I just really don't see the S3's putting out 15 foot of interference.  They are pretty well encased in a nice metal case.

I am pretty confident it is the S3, I have tested the PSU without the AntMiner; and I have tried both mains and battery powered radios; the issue is only apparent when the AntMiner is active.

legendary
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Merit: 1000
June 10, 2015, 11:34:20 PM
#19
Reviving this thread as I have just acquired a secondhand S3 that seems to produce a ton of RF interference.

No radio (by which I mean normal broadcast FM or DAB radio) will work at all within about 15 feet of the miner.  Unfortunately I haven't a lot of flexibility with siting it and so at the moment I can't use it at all.  Switch the miner on and about 5 seconds later the radio can't find a station (DAB) or just has static (FM).

I'm confident I've isolated it to the miner itself as the cause.

Anyone experienced this or got any ideas how to address it?

Put an Iron case around it..? hehe but really.

Well I have thought about something like that, but ...

A) I'd have to get the cables in somehow; and
B) how would I cool it?

Are you sure it's the S3 putting out the interference? I know I had 4 or so of them in a room and a HAM radio antenna on the roof above.   I never had any issues.

Is the PSU and radio connected to the same electrical circuit?  If so might look at the PSU itself.  I just really don't see the S3's putting out 15 foot of interference.  They are pretty well encased in a nice metal case.
sr. member
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Merit: 253
June 10, 2015, 10:20:11 PM
#18
The case should already be most of a Faraday cage, what with the metal housing and such. Kinda strange that it'd put out so much noise.
Yes, 1 cm² chicken wire should work pretty well as a Faraday cage (at least for wavelengths longer than 1 cm). Air/heat passes through chicken wire easily.
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
June 10, 2015, 01:46:31 PM
#17
The case should already be most of a Faraday cage, what with the metal housing and such. Kinda strange that it'd put out so much noise.
hero member
Activity: 1029
Merit: 712
June 10, 2015, 01:30:18 PM
#16
Reviving this thread as I have just acquired a secondhand S3 that seems to produce a ton of RF interference.

No radio (by which I mean normal broadcast FM or DAB radio) will work at all within about 15 feet of the miner.  Unfortunately I haven't a lot of flexibility with siting it and so at the moment I can't use it at all.  Switch the miner on and about 5 seconds later the radio can't find a station (DAB) or just has static (FM).

I'm confident I've isolated it to the miner itself as the cause.

Anyone experienced this or got any ideas how to address it?

Put an Iron case around it..? hehe but really.

Well I have thought about something like that, but ...

A) I'd have to get the cables in somehow; and
B) how would I cool it?
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
June 10, 2015, 01:11:04 PM
#15
Reviving this thread as I have just acquired a secondhand S3 that seems to produce a ton of RF interference.

No radio (by which I mean normal broadcast FM or DAB radio) will work at all within about 15 feet of the miner.  Unfortunately I haven't a lot of flexibility with siting it and so at the moment I can't use it at all.  Switch the miner on and about 5 seconds later the radio can't find a station (DAB) or just has static (FM).

I'm confident I've isolated it to the miner itself as the cause.

Anyone experienced this or got any ideas how to address it?

Put an Iron case around it..? hehe but really.
hero member
Activity: 1029
Merit: 712
June 10, 2015, 01:05:35 PM
#14
Reviving this thread as I have just acquired a secondhand S3 that seems to produce a ton of RF interference.

No radio (by which I mean normal broadcast FM or DAB radio) will work at all within about 15 feet of the miner.  Unfortunately I haven't a lot of flexibility with siting it and so at the moment I can't use it at all.  Switch the miner on and about 5 seconds later the radio can't find a station (DAB) or just has static (FM).

I'm confident I've isolated it to the miner itself as the cause.

Anyone experienced this or got any ideas how to address it?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
April 07, 2015, 05:17:48 PM
#13
I have many various Antminers at my home and I have no problem with radio, TV, Wi-Fi (and on my roof is 8 Wi-Fi AP 2,4 and 5GHz ).
Much worse it is with my Espresso coffee machines :-)


My  worst is my microwave.  If I use it I can count on no wifi in the kitchen till it's done Smiley.  

Other then that rest of items seem pretty low on interference.  I to have wifi, tv, radio, amateur radio, and a "micro cell" that makes a cellular connection from your internet.

Sounds like the shielding on your microwave is toast, put some metal screen around it and you should be able to use wifi in the kitchen again.  I'm sure your wife would like a metal cage around the microwave, too.  Grin
legendary
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April 07, 2015, 04:00:14 PM
#12
I have many various Antminers at my home and I have no problem with radio, TV, Wi-Fi (and on my roof is 8 Wi-Fi AP 2,4 and 5GHz ).
Much worse it is with my Espresso coffee machines :-)


My  worst is my microwave.  If I use it I can count on no wifi in the kitchen till it's done Smiley.  

Other then that rest of items seem pretty low on interference.  I to have wifi, tv, radio, amateur radio, and a "micro cell" that makes a cellular connection from your internet.
sr. member
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April 07, 2015, 03:56:18 PM
#11
I have many various Antminers at my home and I have no problem with radio, TV, Wi-Fi (and on my roof is 8 Wi-Fi AP 2,4 and 5GHz ).
Much worse it is with my Espresso coffee machines :-)
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