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Topic: Do not invest based on the "telegram community" - page 2. (Read 725 times)

sr. member
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In my opinion, Telegram is a place to study, share knowledge and experience about cryptocurrency and blockchain technology or other, and I haven't found a telegram community that advises or deals with investment.
but it all depends on the Telegram community where you are, if there is incitement or about investment advice that you think is unconvincing and you suspect why you are not leaving.
and the good or bad of your own Telegram community evaluating it and having the intelligence to think is very important when you are on any social media.
hero member
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^ I agree that there's a lot of manipulation going on.

I've also noticed the fake activities on different channels. You can easily notice because most of them do not even have a username and that they usually talk to each other at a certain time. Some hired marketers also call this as "growth hacks". From what I have observed, telegram community with legit members ranges from a few hundreds to 5K with active members around 10 to 100. Even that 5K includes bots and spammers.


Check the services section and you will see there are a lot of services, that offer telegram promotion, and instant members of telegram channel, telegram is very popular among Crypto projects, and it's become a big target of scammers, and those who offer dubious services, that is why I seldom post on channels that I joined because of the projects I've invested and supported, and I always report those channels that added me without my consent.
copper member
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In regards to this, there are still highly manipulative practices that occur, that's with groups in excess of 15-20k members.

Most naturally grown Telegram groups consist of 5-15k members, before a sale is finished or finalized. Anything ranging from 20-100k, that was made post-2018, is consisted of fake, accounts pulled from other groups and other highly manipulative practices. These types of crypto groups you should always avoid.

Concurrently, there are a lot of "influencer" groups consisting of a few thousand members, with a crazy amount of activity. These are also highly faked telegram groups, running bots with fake messages and or paid messages for a specific time, to make the group appear active in order to sell AMAs or other public events for crypto teams. If you're serious about crypto in any way, then you won't be in these groups listening to some guy talking about the latest coin he's shilling. It's great for quick research, but always know these guys are in it for themselves, they are ultimately looking to profit from your voice, time and activity; just like any tech company in the real world. "Data is king."


All in all, when in doubt, view groups like Binance's groups, Binance's shilled IEOs and see how many members they have. Chances are, it will denote a reasonable Telegram group community size for any given period in the broader crypto market.


Also, as OP said, never invest based on the groups. A lot of shills, a lot of FOMO, a lot of nonsense and a lot more shady motherfuckers; all there to solely manipulate your thoughts. Even worse are the groups who ban users for giving critical feedback (in a non-shit talk way), because it may cause other users to ask the same questions.
Most of those very large groups have bot members, very true sir. I was astonished to see an advert by someone saying he adds fake members at the rate of 1000 members for 5$. This means one can easily add 10k members with just 50$. Some bounties even have telegram activity, aside from the bot chats you mentioned here. Investors who get carried away by "large community" will always fall prey when they see these large telegram groups.
sr. member
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Telegram members are bought/sold by the big groups and I don't think expert investors will care about the opinion of random people from the online groups. Telegram is a good choice for following the news, updates from the various projects but I doubt it is ok to take seriously the crowd count for making an investment choice. AFAIK, the projects hire the best telegram group managers for managing their daily social activities.
Telegram is a way to communicate to investors, bounty hunters and the followers but not one should use telegram as their basis for investment. Expert investors knows that trusting someone is too risky, and telegram is full of scammers. Maybe if KYC implemented on Telegram, the volume of scammer will be lessen then you can now consider to ask people about your investment but still you have the job to study the project.
Of course, no one is using telegram that way. It is not actually a good basis for investment, Telegram group is just a source of information or updates of a certain project. Every decision should be done by the investor itself and not because of the information he gets in a group, investment should be done with more research.
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Thank you for a very good reminder. But you are right. We don't have to invest over a short conversation. Make sure that you study first and have some research and most important thing that you will check the page or site of project not only in telegram but in the forum. We need to be knowledgable before you invest.
sr. member
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Telegram members are bought/sold by the big groups and I don't think expert investors will care about the opinion of random people from the online groups. Telegram is a good choice for following the news, updates from the various projects but I doubt it is ok to take seriously the crowd count for making an investment choice. AFAIK, the projects hire the best telegram group managers for managing their daily social activities.
Telegram is a way to communicate to investors, bounty hunters and the followers but not one should use telegram as their basis for investment. Expert investors knows that trusting someone is too risky, and telegram is full of scammers. Maybe if KYC implemented on Telegram, the volume of scammer will be lessen then you can now consider to ask people about your investment but still you have the job to study the project.
hero member
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Back in 2017, many ICO projects pride themselves of having one of the biggest telegram community. Some of them would market it as a proof or sign that many investors believe in their project. People who have been around all know that most members there are airdrop/bounty hunters who only joined to qualify for the reward.

I also saw one post earlier asking for telegram group members and one of the condition the buyer posted is that it "needs to look real".

Anyway, this post is just a reminder to beginners in crypto. We don't want you to fall for these tricks to lure you into investing into their projects.

of course , that fucking real, dont believe to project wich have high numbers of telegram members.
basicaly bounty hunters around 100-3k , and 3k its totally huge .
so what the left of members ? of course they are a dummy robot.
i even got a private message from spam account about service to increase the telegram members,
the price is depend about how much u want to increase the members, from 20 usd up to 500.
any service is can be worth of money on crypto world btw  Grin
sr. member
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I agree on the part that many members make irregular discussions. coupled with the telegram community which many users sometimes think of a good project, even though it cannot be determined from that alone
I suggest if really finds that telegram community helpful and sees it beneficial, since some might be community used in bounty as ambassador or paid community to post links of projects, after reading a certain token. Research it properly since the community is not responsible in what ever decisions you'll be doing. Research and make a list of should point out before investing.

In general, we must think many times before deciding to deal with any investments. Telegram sometimes helpful in gathering updates from a desired project on a certain community, but not a helpful source of trusted information due to scammers.
In confirmation to a legit community, the manager should be held liable for the serious discussions and nobody should interfer other than the admins.
hero member
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Lots of things have been changed because of the long run of bear market. Once we really care about a large active telegram community, but now the active telegram group is another tool of scamming people. Because now you can buy active members who will chat regularly between themselves like the ICA group! Whatever happen, those bot guys keep praising about the project! Lol! Therefore once we cared about the Icobench rating which is another scam tool now. So, to make a profit from the new projects is very hard nowadays. You have to be pro if you want to earn ROI from your investment!
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Back in 2017, many ICO projects pride themselves of having one of the biggest telegram community. Some of them would market it as a proof or sign that many investors believe in their project. People who have been around all know that most members there are airdrop/bounty hunters who only joined to qualify for the reward.

I also saw one post earlier asking for telegram group members and one of the condition the buyer posted is that it "needs to look real".

Anyway, this post is just a reminder to beginners in crypto. We don't want you to fall for these tricks to lure you into investing into their projects.
Yeah that's right i saw it, way back 2017, when most of the ICO's are successfully raising funds out of thin air, and they are often use its Telegram groups to boost that they have thousands of community members and investors as well, during that time many new investors that was looking for some opportunity to invest in the ICO's and because of the ICO hype was spreading like a wildfire many people was join without noticing the risk. But that was before in the 2017, but today i don't think people just easily fall that cheap trap most of them are already learn the mistake of past.
hero member
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I agree on the part that many members make irregular discussions. coupled with the telegram community which many users sometimes think of a good project, even though it cannot be determined from that alone
I suggest if really finds that telegram community helpful and sees it beneficial, since some might be community used in bounty as ambassador or paid community to post links of projects, after reading a certain token. Research it properly since the community is not responsible in what ever decisions you'll be doing. Research and make a list of should point out before investing.
sr. member
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man telegram is garbage, i been telling people that forever, it wasent made for thousands of people to have proper discourse
tho i see they remade their UI to look like discords, that helps a bit sort out the spammy mess
who thought putting 30,000+ people of all languages in a single channel was a good idea? Cheesy   what a joke.   Place is a scammers paradise
Proper projects make threads here, plain and simple. HERE is where people can OPENLY discuss projects without being censored/blocked (like telegram channels)

Good point. Assuming all the 30K members were legit and really interested in the project, it's hard to maintain a good discussion among members there. It's like combining all topics in one board from off-topic, technical, investment-related, and others. That's really messy  Grin

This is also why some projects who wants a real discussion have migrated to discord and slack. Although there is still censorship, the topics can be discussed in a more orderly manner.  
I agree on the part that many members make irregular discussions. coupled with the telegram community which many users sometimes think of a good project, even though it cannot be determined from that alone
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man telegram is garbage, i been telling people that forever, it wasent made for thousands of people to have proper discourse
tho i see they remade their UI to look like discords, that helps a bit sort out the spammy mess
who thought putting 30,000+ people of all languages in a single channel was a good idea? Cheesy   what a joke.   Place is a scammers paradise
Proper projects make threads here, plain and simple. HERE is where people can OPENLY discuss projects without being censored/blocked (like telegram channels)

Good point. Assuming all the 30K members were legit and really interested in the project, it's hard to maintain a good discussion among members there. It's like combining all topics in one board from off-topic, technical, investment-related, and others. That's really messy  Grin

This is also why some projects who wants a real discussion have migrated to discord and slack. Although there is still censorship, the topics can be discussed in a more orderly manner.  
jr. member
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Yes, the telegram community is very crowded, but there are probably many projects that add members to increase the number to show that the project has a lot of followers, do not overly believe in it, please update all social networks. like facebook, twitter, medium and everything to keep you informed about a project, telegram is growing in popularity and ease of use so take a closer look.
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Although having a large community is not a guarantee that a project will do well when invested in, but seeing a telegram group with only 300 members is not a sign that the project will attract big investors either. I'd say everyone should DYOR and not develop sentiments based on telegram group's population
sr. member
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the purity parameters of a profitable project are not from the many communities in the telegram but rather the whitepaper they make. there are many factors to consider, and if you have the view "that the project will succeed when it has a large community" it will not help much. it is better to focus on the platform on which the project will be made, useful or not

The success of a project does not come from any single factor, not the number of telegram channel members, not even the whitepaper or the team. The success of a project will come from all the factors taking into perfect harmony and play. The team should be composed of quality people united to launch a brilliant project which creates a product that is going to help a lot of people in their daily lives or companies in their daily operations.
sr. member
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the purity parameters of a profitable project are not from the many communities in the telegram but rather the whitepaper they make. there are many factors to consider, and if you have the view "that the project will succeed when it has a large community" it will not help much. it is better to focus on the platform on which the project will be made, useful or not
jr. member
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Indeed, there are so many advisers in telegrams that the question immediately arises, where did they come from? This is just a hoax. They want to make money with us. It doesn’t matter to them whether we earn. Such are the people now. Be careful.
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Back in 2017, many ICO projects pride themselves of having one of the biggest telegram community. Some of them would market it as a proof or sign that many investors believe in their project. People who have been around all know that most members there are airdrop/bounty hunters who only joined to qualify for the reward.

I also saw one post earlier asking for telegram group members and one of the condition the buyer posted is that it "needs to look real".

Anyway, this post is just a reminder to beginners in crypto. We don't want you to fall for these tricks to lure you into investing into their projects.
The large number of telegram followers is sometimes a parameter for beginners to start investing in ICO projects like IEO. But in the group there is very little important chat activity, the contents are only spam chat that is off topic.
In my opinion the most reasonable is the existence of chat activities between members with the admin and founder of the telegram group, it shows that there is seriousness on the part of the project maker to develop into a bigger and faster.
If project is constantly chat and has many good questions, then it is certainly getting a lot of attention from people. As I know, there are many telegram channels that have a high number of followers but do not have any activity and that makes me feel very worried because maybe they are fake users. I always evaluate the community first but still need a short time to evaluate the details of the project.

In any case, you must always be careful because the crypto market has many risks that you need to be aware of and should consult with others if you find the project is not good.
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Back in 2017, many ICO projects pride themselves of having one of the biggest telegram community. Some of them would market it as a proof or sign that many investors believe in their project. People who have been around all know that most members there are airdrop/bounty hunters who only joined to qualify for the reward.

I also saw one post earlier asking for telegram group members and one of the condition the buyer posted is that it "needs to look real".

Anyway, this post is just a reminder to beginners in crypto. We don't want you to fall for these tricks to lure you into investing into their projects.
Information like this is indeed needed for beginners to not easily believe what is said and to include some evidence that their project has many investors participating in the project. For beginners it is better to ask their close friends for suggestions on what they are going to do so that from this advice he gets a comparison to decide what steps he will take.
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