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Quote from: puremage111 on February 08, 2017, 01:06:29 PM

Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

Yea it does make sense, any amount of $$ you deposit and wanted to make profits is consider as investment. Ranging from 0.001 - 1000, but still, it depedns on yourself

Are you really sure about that and never looking at the main concern?

Investing in a gambling site bankroll with that amount is just wasting a time. Even BTC1 won't help so how worst for BTC0.01 or the amount you have mentioned. You aren't sure if it will gain or the worst part, the gambling site will gone or close that feature and return your stake. Even you let your coins sleep at very long time, the profit you will take is not that much. Better find other way to make that BTC0.01 much worther someday.

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Quote from: rozee on February 08, 2017, 10:03:36 PM

do small investment its mean we will get small profits too and surely if we invest at gambling site we can lose profits and balance if the players win huge amount, to get huge profits you should invest with big amount too it will make big profits too but also big risky if some players win huge amount, 0.01 btc is still low you can try it around 0.1 btc but if you invest your money you have to know first the risk of investment

that's right regarding for taking that risk you must be sure that this huge amount of money, you are really can afford to lose because in gambling things are unrecoverable so if you lose you lose it all with any possibilities to recover it back its only luck will permits you so chances is also small especially if you are not a pro.

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Quote from: olushakes on February 05, 2017, 02:24:23 PM

For me I will say there is no big or small investment its purely what you can afford as that amount you might regard as small is big to some other people and the same applies to the amount you regard as big. In addition to that every investment is a risk and the higher the risk, the higher the return. If you going in small, never expect any big returns.

In investment there only small ROI percentage , so if you put small investment it's not worth imho
For me to invest you have to put your money as low as 0.4 bitcoin
And then your investment will be worth to wait
You have to calculate everything in an investment like , how long time you plan to put your money there etc.

If we talk about investment in house bankroll of gambling site, 0.4btc is not a good amount to make good profit. You'll need to wait for so long time to make decent profit unless there are many gamblers lost hundreds or even thousands btc everyday.
Investement on gambling site cant be calculated as you cant control it. Even if you have a plan on how long you want to invest but how if you get nothing after the time you have planned is reached?

Then how much?
It's just my personal opinion , from my point of view that amount is the minimum to start investing
If you think it's not enough then fine , you might have another point of view
The point is to always investing your money in several place, not only one to minimize the risk.

every people have different minimum to investment because we have different balance in our wallet so maybe if someone said that 0.01 btc is enough for investing, maybe the other people will prefer with only 0.001 btc. but always remember, that investment can not give your profit in short term, its only for long term so you need to think when you want to invest.

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Quote from: rizkyhiw on February 08, 2017, 09:51:00 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on February 06, 2017, 01:54:38 AM

Quote from: rizkyhiw on February 06, 2017, 01:27:19 AM

Quote from: olushakes on February 05, 2017, 02:24:23 PM

For me I will say there is no big or small investment its purely what you can afford as that amount you might regard as small is big to some other people and the same applies to the amount you regard as big. In addition to that every investment is a risk and the higher the risk, the higher the return. If you going in small, never expect any big returns.

In investment there only small ROI percentage , so if you put small investment it's not worth imho
For me to invest you have to put your money as low as 0.4 bitcoin
And then your investment will be worth to wait
You have to calculate everything in an investment like , how long time you plan to put your money there etc.

If we talk about investment in house bankroll of gambling site, 0.4btc is not a good amount to make good profit. You'll need to wait for so long time to make decent profit unless there are many gamblers lost hundreds or even thousands btc everyday.
Investement on gambling site cant be calculated as you cant control it. Even if you have a plan on how long you want to invest but how if you get nothing after the time you have planned is reached?

Then how much?
It's just my personal opinion , from my point of view that amount is the minimum to start investing
If you think it's not enough then fine , you might have another point of view
The point is to always investing your money in several place, not only one to minimize the risk.

The thing is we have different minimum amount to start in investment, investing in a bankroll of a casino does not give bigger return compared to trading. You cannot double your money in a short period of time as you only have a little percentage of sharing on the total bankroll, thus, the profit will be divided proportionally, you should put a bigger amount to investment and obviously bigger than that to gain a good income.

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do small investment its mean we will get small profits too and surely if we invest at gambling site we can lose profits and balance if the players win huge amount, to get huge profits you should invest with big amount too it will make big profits too but also big risky if some players win huge amount, 0.01 btc is still low you can try it around 0.1 btc but if you invest your money you have to know first the risk of investment

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Quote from: Bitinity on February 06, 2017, 01:54:38 AM

Quote from: rizkyhiw on February 06, 2017, 01:27:19 AM

Quote from: olushakes on February 05, 2017, 02:24:23 PM

For me I will say there is no big or small investment its purely what you can afford as that amount you might regard as small is big to some other people and the same applies to the amount you regard as big. In addition to that every investment is a risk and the higher the risk, the higher the return. If you going in small, never expect any big returns.

In investment there only small ROI percentage , so if you put small investment it's not worth imho
For me to invest you have to put your money as low as 0.4 bitcoin
And then your investment will be worth to wait
You have to calculate everything in an investment like , how long time you plan to put your money there etc.

If we talk about investment in house bankroll of gambling site, 0.4btc is not a good amount to make good profit. You'll need to wait for so long time to make decent profit unless there are many gamblers lost hundreds or even thousands btc everyday.
Investement on gambling site cant be calculated as you cant control it. Even if you have a plan on how long you want to invest but how if you get nothing after the time you have planned is reached?

Then how much?
It's just my personal opinion , from my point of view that amount is the minimum to start investing
If you think it's not enough then fine , you might have another point of view
The point is to always investing your money in several place, not only one to minimize the risk.

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Quote from: Kevin77 on February 08, 2017, 04:06:24 PM

Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

See basically when we invest something we should set our expectations and make sure we don't expect a double return next day itself. I have seen cases where people just invested like 10 usd and got to nearly 1000 usd but that's trading thing.

Coming back to point, no investment is small and I had a similar thinking like you that rather than small invest its better to gamble it away and till now I have lost like 2+ bitcoins which had I invested in something significant might have grown to at least 2.2 bitcoins.

Hi Kevin77,

the difference between Gambling and Investing is a fine line between keeping it risky or not. The amount of money that someone could earn within a fast amount of time (around an hour) via Gambling is ideal to most people who strive to be rich. That is the reason why people bet big then lose big.

Investing money into something usually has a time-length of around a month -maybe more depending on your research.

Also it's also a community thing so usually with investing, someone could manipulate the price or even amplify the likeliness of profit. Gambling depends on the people in the match only, unless threatening is involved (that might not happen if that person is behind a computer) leading the betting person to win large sums of money.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

See basically when we invest something we should set our expectations and make sure we don't expect a double return next day itself. I have seen cases where people just invested like 10 usd and got to nearly 1000 usd but that's trading thing.

Coming back to point, no investment is small and I had a similar thinking like you that rather than small invest its better to gamble it away and till now I have lost like 2+ bitcoins which had I invested in something significant might have grown to at least 2.2 bitcoins.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on February 08, 2017, 11:58:39 AM

Quote from: pereira4 on February 08, 2017, 11:02:55 AM

The big fat price is usually that one when you invest a small amount but get incredibly lucky, I have seen people win jackpots after spending like 5 dollars and I have seen people lose 4 figures in gambling and they get nothing back. luck is everything in this life, we must be lucky or we will suffer, and the only way to get lucky is to try.

Yes, luck is that matter most in gambling than the amount invested. Higher investment of bitcoin amount is good in trading that can yield you better profits, but there is no grantee with gambling. Higher amounts invested in gambling give you no grantee that you will win big.

Gambling and investment as casinos bankroll are two different ways to make profits, and I don't think OP talking about gambling as he mentioned invest bitcoin on casino. When you depends on Luck to win the battlefield, the house always get advantage in the end and share profit to their investors which doesn't make sense if you get small portion from small amount of investment.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

Yea it does make sense, any amount of $$ you deposit and wanted to make profits is consider as investment. Ranging from 0.001 - 1000, but still, it depedns on yourself

Yup there is no limit for the investment you can invest any amount it may 0.001 BTC or 1000 BTC. Both have value. But why we invest to make a profit, if this matter comes small investment will not work. We must invest at least one decent amount to make money. If you invest 1 BTC and sites is giving good profit then also your income will be very less. So there is no meaning to invest small amount it's just waste of money and time.

in fact bitcoin gives the opportunities to invest any amount you have there is not limit for trading and investment in alt coin. you can invest any limit in alt coin and can also get a good profit. because there are so many alt coin which have low price but they can give your a good profit as there are more chance that their prices will go high.

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Quote from: puremage111 on February 08, 2017, 01:06:29 PM

Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

Yea it does make sense, any amount of $$ you deposit and wanted to make profits is consider as investment. Ranging from 0.001 - 1000, but still, it depedns on yourself

Yup there is no limit for the investment you can invest any amount it may 0.001 BTC or 1000 BTC. Both have value. But why we invest to make a profit, if this matter comes small investment will not work. We must invest at least one decent amount to make money. If you invest 1 BTC and sites is giving good profit then also your income will be very less. So there is no meaning to invest small amount it's just waste of money and time.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

Yea it does make sense, any amount of $$ you deposit and wanted to make profits is consider as investment. Ranging from 0.001 - 1000, but still, it depedns on yourself

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

Yes, small investments can make sense in 2 situations:

1) Investing with leverage

Some casinos allow this option, so for example 0.01 BTC with 10x leverage will have the same profit/loss as 0.1 BTC investment, meaning that you'll see higher profits, but you'll also lose all your investment if casino will lose 10% of its bankroll.

2) Investing in new underfunded casinos

Lets say there's a new casino opened just yesterday and has 0.99 BTC bankroll, you invest 0.01 BTC so your share is now 1%, then someone comes and loses 0.5 BTC, in that case you will get 0.005 BTC profit, which will be a half of your investment. The problem here is that this is very risky, someone could almost just as easily win 0.5 BTC, and you'd suffer 50% loss.

tl;dr you can make a big return from small investment by increasing its risk

All the roads lead to Rome, you can trade with less the 0.1 bitcoin or even by 100 bitcoins and you eventually come to the point when you realize that no matter how much you invest you are risking your money, but as I see it really depends on the person if you have only 0.1 then it is not worth investing and risking all your money, but if you have 100 bitcoins than it won’t bother you losing 0.1 bitcoin.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

Of course you won't profit big investing 0.01btc even if the site you invested in makes big profits. But on the other hand you won't lose a lot in case of a fail. I think small investmets make sense, especiallly for the people who is just starting to research what an investment is.

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Quote from: pereira4 on February 08, 2017, 11:02:55 AM

The big fat price is usually that one when you invest a small amount but get incredibly lucky, I have seen people win jackpots after spending like 5 dollars and I have seen people lose 4 figures in gambling and they get nothing back. luck is everything in this life, we must be lucky or we will suffer, and the only way to get lucky is to try.

Yes, luck is that matter most in gambling than the amount invested. Higher investment of bitcoin amount is good in trading that can yield you better profits, but there is no grantee with gambling. Higher amounts invested in gambling give you no grantee that you will win big.

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The big fat price is usually that one when you invest a small amount but get incredibly lucky, I have seen people win jackpots after spending like 5 dollars and I have seen people lose 4 figures in gambling and they get nothing back. luck is everything in this life, we must be lucky or we will suffer, and the only way to get lucky is to try.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

if you are in gambling site, everything is possible to be happen inside the sites, you can loss or you can win in the game. Meaning regarding about the fact that you wanna know that is much possible the small amount you had it can be double, triple or more even your capital was cheap amount only.

in fact small invest make sense both in trading and gambling. in gambling as there are more chance to lose money so if you are investing a small amount then you will be more safe. and in trading bitcoin as there are so many potentially good alt coins where from where small amount you can make a good amount of bitcoins if the price of the coin go high.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 05, 2017, 12:00:38 PM

When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

Everytime i think about invement i always make profit with my money and i can't even get back my return of investment i always get scammed i always depend on affliate program where i can get 20% of their depsoits sometimes i just invest around 0.002 bitcoin and i don't care if it will not back some ponzi scheme site are just nonsense not the invetors Tongue

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If we invest small of course we get small, don't expect when fishing with anchovy could get the pope. though it may be, but we must also understand and use mathematical logic.

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Quote from: cramcram21 on February 08, 2017, 05:22:52 AM

Well for me it totally makes sense since I started in some HYIP and learned through it,
I started investing in small amount and I made some decent amount of money through it.

HYIP's are nothing but a scam. Nobody should be encouraged in taking part in a HYIP. It is probably the worst possible way to invest one's money. Even slots or blackjack can be deemed as a better investment than HYIP. Some people might disagree with me but thats just my opinion.

HYIP's easily attract the user base, but only on experiencing will realize the true nature of HYIP's. Small investments are the one which grows high, but what's been needed is patience. Another thing is that with small amounts as investment we cannot rely for a regular earning. With bitcoin even small investments grow in a short to give a better profit compared to fiat investment.

They attract newbie that has a greed in mind, HYIP offers big rewards with less effort, you just have to put your money then expect for great return. If you are under the situation that you are in desperate need of money, you will easily be attracted with it, they have no heart at all as they take advantage on people's weakness.

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