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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
The exchanges system automatically credits your crypto deposit. But if your transaction is suspicious then the deposit is frozen. Be it small amount or big amount. I faced such a problem. I made a NEAR deposit from a wall on Binance but it was credited but my balance was frozen. Later I contacted the support and after giving them all the detailed proofs they unfroze my balance. When I asked them about this they said that my transaction was suspicious due to which my balance was frozen. So it can be said that any exchanger can freeze your balance if your transaction is suspicious
Your experience shows that exchanges do care about the sources of funds that is deposited with them, most of us wouldn't know this because we've not been victims of blocked accounts. Perhaps the exchanges ordinarily wouldn't care about the sources of funds but because of the mandate of regulations they wouldn't want to be in between suspicious transactions, that is my take on it. Some months back Binance had an issue with my government regarding suspicious transactions, it reached to a point where a Binance official was detained in a correctional facility for a long time before he was eventually released.
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Any exchange that requires you to KYC, it means they care about the origin of your money. If they don't care about the origin of your money, are you a criminal? Why do they force you to KYC? It is true that exchanges need users to build reputation and revenue, but first, they need to survive and to do that, they need to comply with government regulations. That is why they always ask us to verify our identity and comply with their terms before using their services.

As for handling forfeited assets, I think everything is clearly stated in their regulations, it's just that most of us don't read them before signing up  Grin Grin Grin.
In my opinion, about any exchange require KYC because following the government regulation or the exchange operation close totally if allow their user without KYC for trading, deposit and withdrawing fund. Recently many exchange before have limited amount for withdrawing or depositing before applying KYC but right now most of the exchange have change the regulation if want trade must pass KYC firstly.

For exchange have regulation about where are the money come from and verifying document ID firstly make easily for exchange detecting our deposit come from, the exchange regulation about KYC make us trade, deposit or withdraw fund without problem and the exchange have follow all government regulation. 
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?

Yes they do care about where your funds is coming from. When it’s coming from a source that is already flagged for fraudulent activities, your funds will easily be locked or you won’t receive them. I have witnessed a lot of time if trying to receive money on binance in specific, it always prompt a message not to receive the money from sanctioned entities as it’ll pose a risk to your account. Even some exchanges that are flagged are not allowed to transact to exchanges that have putting an embargo on them, so exchanges have their policies and since they’re decentralized, it is better not to receive money from any source that is not accredited by them or have been flagged for fraud before.

basically people should read the term that the exchange give first before doing deposit, binance seems to be quite strict with the rules mainly to comply AML.
but expect other exchange to have the same reaction as well in the future, this is why not your coin not your money, these exchange be locking up people's fund without valid reasoning so far and lately there's this hot topic about coinbase locking up people's fund in twitter even going as far as the account clarifying that it is just a fud (which more likely isn't because genuine people got locked out of their fund for real there).

always use exchange as needed and then use hardware wallet.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?

Yes they do care about where your funds is coming from. When it’s coming from a source that is already flagged for fraudulent activities, your funds will easily be locked or you won’t receive them. I have witnessed a lot of time if trying to receive money on binance in specific, it always prompt a message not to receive the money from sanctioned entities as it’ll pose a risk to your account. Even some exchanges that are flagged are not allowed to transact to exchanges that have putting an embargo on them, so exchanges have their policies and since they’re decentralized, it is better not to receive money from any source that is not accredited by them or have been flagged for fraud before.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
The exchanges system automatically credits your crypto deposit. But if your transaction is suspicious then the deposit is frozen. Be it small amount or big amount. I faced such a problem. I made a NEAR deposit from a wall on Binance but it was credited but my balance was frozen. Later I contacted the support and after giving them all the detailed proofs they unfroze my balance. When I asked them about this they said that my transaction was suspicious due to which my balance was frozen. So it can be said that any exchanger can freeze your balance if your transaction is suspicious
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
They 100% care, without a doubt. I remember few of my friends got a message from binance asking them to explain why and how they are regularly receiving money from some places. They had to explain that it was because of the a campaign, and they let me be, but if they didn't have proof, then binance would have blocked their account.

While you may not get caught every time, that doesn't mean that you are doing something they allow, you are just doing something against their rules and not caught yet, that's it. So, they do care where the money comes from, depends on where it comes from though, if it's something illegal then they care, if it is not illegal then they do not care, that's the most important part of it, and I believe that matters a lot.
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I think those things actually depends on the kind of exchange we are talking about because I believe there are even some exchanges that doesn't look into the amount people are sending to there platform because they need more users to boost there reputation but for those exchanges who have reaching to the level they want can do that because when they would see how big is the money and the age you are, they would eventually trace back the transaction to check if is linked to any illegal wallet that has been use for illegal purpose and if find connected will result to account blocked without access of taking back the money, however at this point of would like someone to explain to me what such exchange will do with the money since the depositors is longer accessible to the money, does it mean that the money will be liquidated, shared or hand over to the authorities?.


Any exchange that requires you to KYC, it means they care about the origin of your money. If they don't care about the origin of your money, are you a criminal? Why do they force you to KYC? It is true that exchanges need users to build reputation and revenue, but first, they need to survive and to do that, they need to comply with government regulations. That is why they always ask us to verify our identity and comply with their terms before using their services.

As for handling forfeited assets, I think everything is clearly stated in their regulations, it's just that most of us don't read them before signing up  Grin Grin Grin.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
No, whatever type of exchange it doesn't matter where you send crypto from, whether you send usdt, eth, btc and so on, even if you send it from an unknown exchange or any wallet, including gambling sites, they don't care about that, as long as you don't get the delivery address wrong, your crypto will come in.

Kyc applies not only to sending from an exchange to another exchange, kyc applies to the users themselves in, for example, Binance, Kraken or other exchanges, what is certain is that kyc applies to users who carry out activities on the exchange, whether you carry out trading activities, investments, withdrawalsor deposit.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?

The fact that you are asking such a question indicates that you have doubts about the origin of the coins in your wallet. And since you have such doubts, it is better for you to refrain from transferring such coins to CEX. But if you can't do without CEX, then you should try transferring a small amount from your wallet and see how the exchange reacts to this.

Also, another question would be if there is a subaccount option on the said CEX.
Would all of them be frozen in such a case if the money were found to be suspicious?
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
Yes, they care, although the exchange arrangement is the one I know that takes risk for their client the most since I started online dealings. If it were to be other companies, you may not be able to hold $1,000 with them without duly proving the source of your funds. However, exchanges may tolerate some amount but when it is getting to a certain volume, they might tell you to proof the funds, especially if the KYT (Know Your Transaction) doesn't favour the person or it can't easily be implemented. But they may not have issues with you if you move out $1m from a well-known company's account. However, if it is suspicious, your account may be frozen for you to prove the funds.

Basically - might makes right.
And you would be screwed for a month or so if your funds would be stuck because these thoughts of being from a "shady" place.
So better to be vigilant, OP.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
When you send a lot of ETH, USDT or any other currency, they care about everything because they don't want problems with governments. The best way to make yourself less noticeable is if you slowly deposit money on exchanges but if it's a big amount of money, $300K or something higher, I think you can't safely send it to any exchange, including most instant exchanges.

It's very hard for us to give you an accurate prediction because sometimes, everything is okay and the exchange still blocks your funds because their AML analyzer made a mistake. We don't know if their AML analyzer will make a mistake or not, you need fortune on your side.

https://btrace.amlcrypto.io/

Is this an accurate way to know if my address is safe or not?  Any other scanners I can use?
Bestchange.com has an AML analyzer, which is very cheap but at the moment it's disabled. It might be a good idea to save this URL and check later - https://www.bestchange.com/report/

None of my coins are stolen or shady, the only thing I ever did “wrong” was to use this DEX called Veil.Exchange.
Why was this wrong? Can you explain? Did you receive dirty coins there?
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
Yes, they care, although the exchange arrangement is the one I know that takes risk for their client the most since I started online dealings. If it were to be other companies, you may not be able to hold $1,000 with them without duly proving the source of your funds. However, exchanges may tolerate some amount but when it is getting to a certain volume, they might tell you to proof the funds, especially if the KYT (Know Your Transaction) doesn't favour the person or it can't easily be implemented. But they may not have issues with you if you move out $1m from a well-known company's account. However, if it is suspicious, your account may be frozen for you to prove the funds.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
Exchange already have their own check's mechanism and the only time you could run into a problem with exchange is when the volume of the money is higher than your kyc level, this could trigger the exchange to Carrie out suspension on your account until you upgrade your kyc verification, and also exchange suspect fund's that are from illegal sources so for that, try as much as possible to always avoid sending money from gambling and other coins mixing services that debts the status  of the Bitcoin deposits.

Aside from all of that, if all your transactions are from clean source, I don't think you have anything to worry about on exchange deposit regardless of the level of the exchange or wallet you are sending the Bitcoin from, exchange not exceeding your maximum deposit limit puts you and your funds on a more positive note on an exchange.

So Note that large deposits always trigger's suspicion so to that makes sure to deposit all your Bitcoin in a much secured and below limit balance if you want to stay within the limit of you account on the exchange.
As long you wouldnt really be able to hit up the threshold then it should really be just that fine but on the moment that you do go past beyond it then you would be able to expect that there would really be checks that needs out or on the moment tor time that you will really be asked out for some verification if ever they have seen something odd with your transaction. Actually there's nothing to worry about if there's nothing that you do hide on where those funds came from. If it turned out that you are a whale holder then you could always prove it out that it do came from your own wallet but if this one talks about on gambling source of funds then there's really some rules or terms about that on which we do need to look upon.

See for example:
(g) certain regulated products and services, including but not limited to marijuana dispensaries and related businesses; sale of tobacco, e-cigarettes, and e-liquid; online prescription or pharmaceutical services; age restricted goods or services; and toxic, flammable, and radioactive materials;
(j) gambling activities, including but not limited to sports betting, casino games, horse racing, dog racing, lotteries, games of chance, sweepstakes, games of skill that may be classified as gambling (i.e. poker), or other activities that facilitate any of the foregoing;


Source: https://www.okx.com/help/terms-of-service

These are only a couple of example with tons on the list. As long you dont put up yourself into these things then you should be just fine.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?

I think it's not like that in my opinion and just from my knowledge of the centralized exchanges we're talking about that collect kyc. And I also think that these platforms don't care if the amount you transfer to other exchanges is big or small, whether the exchange platform you're transferring assets to is on a top listing exchange or not.

As long as they don't violate their policy, your account on their platform will remain in good standing with the assets they have, especially if their platform is regulated compared to other unregulated exchange sites.

I think those things actually depends on the kind of exchange we are talking about because I believe there are even some exchanges that doesn't look into the amount people are sending to there platform because they need more users to boost there reputation but for those exchanges who have reaching to the level they want can do that because when they would see how big is the money and the age you are, they would eventually trace back the transaction to check if is linked to any illegal wallet that has been use for illegal purpose and if find connected will result to account blocked without access of taking back the money, however at this point of would like someone to explain to me what such exchange will do with the money since the depositors is longer accessible to the money, does it mean that the money will be liquidated, shared or hand over to the authorities?.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
Exchange already have their own check's mechanism and the only time you could run into a problem with exchange is when the volume of the money is higher than your kyc level, this could trigger the exchange to Carrie out suspension on your account until you upgrade your kyc verification, and also exchange suspect fund's that are from illegal sources so for that, try as much as possible to always avoid sending money from gambling and other coins mixing services that debts the status  of the Bitcoin deposits.

Aside from all of that, if all your transactions are from clean source, I don't think you have anything to worry about on exchange deposit regardless of the level of the exchange or wallet you are sending the Bitcoin from, exchange not exceeding your maximum deposit limit puts you and your funds on a more positive note on an exchange.

So Note that large deposits always trigger's suspicion so to that makes sure to deposit all your Bitcoin in a much secured and below limit balance if you want to stay within the limit of you account on the exchange.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?
Well, omegastarscream already explained it all, and I guess that is the reason why it's very easy for those big exchanges to discover that funds coming into their platform is from a hack exchange, and immediately lock the funds from being withdrawn.

We must understand that technology have changed, and is still changing alot of things in and around our lives and finances, especially in this era of internet money.

Exchanges can easily tell if and when funds are coming into their platform from a mixer, and this is why it's absolutely wrong to deposit from to the centralized exchanges directly from a mixing platform, it's always better to mix and first send to your private wallet, and maybe to another private wallet,, and another, and another, and more before finally sending to the exchange, this is if the coins in question are clean anyway.
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This is why I think Monero is the future of crypto.
Some exchanges, such as Kraken Germany, also do not allow the deposit of privacy coins such as Monero (and a large number of other coins). I assume that other exchanges will follow the example of Kraken Germany and also prevent the deposit of Monero.

Of course, you can still trade Monero on a DEX for BTC/USDT/... and then deposit them on the respective exchange.
If they can prevent coins that comes from a mixer, then indeed that they can as well ban privacy coins like Monero but Monero and the likes are already involved in an issue even before. They are even get delisted on some exchangers. So some exchange won't deal with them as well, as they are afraid that they will be in trouble if they do so. If we are a supporter of those coins, there is still a way to trade them, including the decentralized exchanges as you said there.

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If there is a future of crypto, that would be only be Bitcoin (nothing more nothing less). And Bitcoin is also known to be the future of fiats system.
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I think it's not like that in my opinion and just from my knowledge of the centralized exchanges we're talking about that collect kyc. And I also think that these platforms don't care if the amount you transfer to other exchanges is big or small, whether the exchange platform you're transferring assets to is on a top listing exchange or not.

As long as they don't violate their policy, your account on their platform will remain in good standing with the assets they have, especially if their platform is regulated compared to other unregulated exchange sites.
Basically every centralized exchange really cares where your funds come from - that's why they ask you to go through KYC as well as KYT. If the source of your funds is deemed to conflict with their terms of service - then your account may be locked and your deposits may be frozen. This is of course in line with their plan to prevent certain individuals from using their platform as a place to launder money, whether the budget comes from hacking or otherwise.

You may need to know about why KYC and KYT are required on almost all centralized exchanges - even local centralized exchanges have implemented these rules for all their customers. But of course - this will vary from case to case.
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When you send a lot of ETH or USDT to a big exchange like Kraken, do they care if its come from a smaller non kyc exchange like Blofin?  Do they care if it came from a bridge?

I think it's not like that in my opinion and just from my knowledge of the centralized exchanges we're talking about that collect kyc. And I also think that these platforms don't care if the amount you transfer to other exchanges is big or small, whether the exchange platform you're transferring assets to is on a top listing exchange or not.

As long as they don't violate their policy, your account on their platform will remain in good standing with the assets they have, especially if their platform is regulated compared to other unregulated exchange sites.
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This is why I think Monero is the future of crypto.
Many countries and exchanges have banned Monero, if you think Monero is the future, the government already killed the future.
Governments dislike privacy of their citizens and they try to kill Monero for many years. They ordered Chainalysis to break down Monero private transactions and even have a big prize for anyone who can do it.

Can You Crack Monero? IRS Offers $625,000 Bounty for Anyone Who Can Break Privacy of Cryptocurrency

You can love privacy, love anonymity and you can like Monero for private transactions, but it's only for very short term transaction, and not more. If you think Monero as a favorite coin for your investment portfolio, it is very risky. Governments can break down this private blockchain but if they fail, they can simply order legal request to centralized exchanges for delisting Monero. A future with no centralized exchange for Monero is not too far and it's not bright future for this coin, price will be affected.
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