I don't think there needs to be any concrete Flag appeal. It's really no different than a reputation thread asking for Negative feedback to be removed. The flagged member can make there case the same way trying to convice people to remove their support for a certain flag, people will agree or disagree.
Inactive Flags will stay put from what I've noticed, this is beneficial in 2 ways I can think of. It shows a persons growth if they've come back from a flag-able offence. This would be inline with the forgiveness aspect theymos was introducing with the system. To me forgiving doesn't mean forgetting.
Secondly it will leave a record for when people create frivolous flags, or abuse the flag system. Not being able to remove them like feedback, means you do have to live with what you put out there. Giving people insight into whether or not they agree with your feedback/flag standards.
Topic: Do we need Flag Appeal and Flag Appeal Guide? (Read 250 times)
What are your opinions? Do you think that we need Flag Appeal and Flag Appeal Guide (of course after we completely understand Trust Flags, and they stably play their roles)?
An inactive flag means nothing. It's only have affect when it's active and to have it active it needs more support than oppose from DT members.
It sounds crazy because Trust flags only activated two days ago, and might be adjusted in coming days. By now, Trust Flags adjsuted the first time yesterday.
- Trust Appeal: that looks likely outdated now.
- Ban Appeal: mostly for permanent bans.
I wrote my guides there:
Don't over-create Trust Appeals; keep minds/ emotions stable. No more Red
Ban appeal - How to make it right and reduce workload for forum staffs
What are your opinions? Do you think that we need Flag Appeal and Flag Appeal Guide (of course after we completely understand Trust Flags, and they stably play their roles)?
Some changes:
- If the number of pre-flags-system negative trust ratings is greater than the number of all positive trust ratings, a warning banner is shown for guests & low-login-time newbies.
- I added "These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then." to the newbie warning banner. Note BTW that it usually takes months for someone to get 7 days of login time: among all 4096 users with 6.5 to 7.5 days login time, the account age (lastLogin-dateRegistered) is: maximum 3216 days, minimum 7.5, median 677, average 936.
- The pages you see after clicking "next" are now bigger.
I raised this question, because with each kind of system, and serious punishments, forum has concurrent appeals. What we have so far:- If the number of pre-flags-system negative trust ratings is greater than the number of all positive trust ratings, a warning banner is shown for guests & low-login-time newbies.
- I added "These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then." to the newbie warning banner. Note BTW that it usually takes months for someone to get 7 days of login time: among all 4096 users with 6.5 to 7.5 days login time, the account age (lastLogin-dateRegistered) is: maximum 3216 days, minimum 7.5, median 677, average 936.
- The pages you see after clicking "next" are now bigger.
- Trust Appeal: that looks likely outdated now.
- Ban Appeal: mostly for permanent bans.
I wrote my guides there:
Don't over-create Trust Appeals; keep minds/ emotions stable. No more Red
Ban appeal - How to make it right and reduce workload for forum staffs
What are your opinions? Do you think that we need Flag Appeal and Flag Appeal Guide (of course after we completely understand Trust Flags, and they stably play their roles)?
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