Topic: Do we still believe in anything? (Read 717 times)

The trouble is, we believe everything.     

Absolutely agreeee

For me human race is a bunch of lazy smart individuals, they will believe anything they're priest or pastor tell them but if you say that the floor is wet they need to double check or verify if its really wet. In this modern era all we care is ourselves, nobody is civil anymore that's why the world is so cruel and slowly with our greed and being self serving all of the earth's precious animals, plants, trees will perish.

I have not believed in anything for a long time. I'm just exploring myself. Plus, my intuition is well developed, so it helps me find the right path.

I've been asking the same question for this past few weeks.. everything in the world is just a 'concept' - 'mindset' - "copy of a copy of a copy of copy.." - everything is 'fiction' because i think there's only subjective truth, nothing is ever really objective as we all see differently even if we see it same. different eyes, different perspective, different interpretation..

"We worship immediacy"... I think is the answer to this question on its own.
In today's world, and this is largely due to the rise of social media and cell phones in particular. What we worship now is instant gratification, whether consciously or not. 
Here lies this issue... as most of us are looking for speed, we want everything and we want it NOW. But with that comes a cost, like you said, we no longer "believe" in politics. This is mainly due to the media, and their push to meet this new consumer need of instant gratification. As a result, the media will push out anything they can, as long as it is fast and it grabs attention. We no longer believe in or value truth over speed, and news media knows that. It does not matter whether they are right or wrong, they will race to be the first to get it out there, because attention for them, no matter good or bad attention, means profit.

In my opinion, our generation or the next will start to come full circle. As the new age takes over, we are losing things such as interpersonal connections, privacy, etc. We will begin to cherish these things more and more until the things we worshiped in the past are what will be sought out for in the future.

For example, as technology has advanced, populations in most developed countries no longer have to think about where their next glass of water comes from. Water is easily accessible, and as a result, begins to lose value. However, as we know, water is finite, and it won't be until we realize we are running out that we will begin to cherish it again. in fact, it is popular opinion that the next world war will be waged over water!
The Netflix series "Explained" has a great episode covering the water crisis and covers this point well. 

Except in great pain or great joy. When one has great pain or great joy, his beliefs are shown to be something different than what he would have suggested that he believed before.

How are you sure that science provide you the accurate results they should?
Science can be manipulated as well due to the fact that ordinary people cannot make tests and experiments. You get what scientists give you.
Similar to religions.

Let me take the discussion to some broader context. I think that all the concepts which we use in our life to explain or describe anything are based on beliefs. And it doesn't matter whether we are talking about scientific, religious or social issues. All the concepts we operate with are just beliefs. There is only one thing we can be certain about and that is: "I" exist. The rest are just phenomena in the field of "I": thoughts, conceptions, ideas, etc.
So the answer to the first question "Do we still believe in anything?" is: "We believe in everything".

I still believe that man is inherently good. The different circumstances and situations in earth make a man do everything even bad things in order to survive. Nevertheless, we could still believe that anyone could change 

Me neither. It's difficult to advocate spending billions of dollars on space programmes when there are billions of poverty-stricken people on Earth, starving, suffering and dying from curable diseases.
One positive for space travel is if we can establish a self-sustaining colony somewhere, moon or Mars, then we have at least improved the chance of survival of our species - a meteor strike or nuclear war would no longer wipe out everyone.

When you are no longer pressed living for survival, you can start wondering about "beyond the immediate" issues.

You know it would be real nice if some superior sentience did in fact provoked evolution by placing a monolith :3

To become space faring, one would argue the world issues would be solved. Most popular sci-fi shows present earth "unified" (and even the aliens, they seldom stop and thing an alien world with sentience would have several countries and contradicting positions).

But it makes sense that we would need to overcome our differences, somehow, for true advancement. This is what happened in the very early history of humanity in the modern day Iraq region with the city states that formed after the constant flooding forced the people to cooperate building canals and whatnot.

But then the materialistic will tell you, life is too short to think about things you will never experience. We won't be here to see the last bitcoin minted, for example, who knows of an archive of this forum remains for future generations.

Can you overcome your immediate needs? One thing that Austrian economics teach, is that if someone is willing to, say, forego their immediate needs of working to earn a salary to eat everyday, in order to study or make something that later would easy his living, then this person will live much better later after the sacrifice than not sacrificing and remain living the same as always.

So if you catch a fish with your hands everyday, painfully and slowly, but one day you stop and think and invent a fishing rod, then later your fishing will be much easier and you may even get time for "new" things.

Some people say this space exploration stuff is nonsense when there are so many world problems to solve, for example. Why do it?

I don't have the answer for who is right and who is wrong. Perhaps exploration will bring a discovery that will benefit us all as a whole, or perhaps not. Research is like that, regardless. You can spend countless resources funding projects that end in nothing, but was it better than redirecting all those resources and feed the poor? What if you do find, say cure for Cancer or such?

Well i believe in science but in terms of religion, i do believe there is a God but i don't to practice what they are doing since religion makes people go crazy to the extent of disowning your own son/daughter for the sake of religion disrespecting others to make it simple they hypocrites. They are anti-vaxxers and full pledged flat earthers who believe that earth was built 6000 years ago and vaccines are poison...

We choose our beliefs but because of our environment we have see or think in a good way as we think because we have different perspective in life.

If our environment was good then we can still have a good beliefs and believe on how or when do believe our community.

Reason;
You could choose to believe in anyone or not. Humans have worship one or all over the years. While some choose to believe they aren’t worth their esteem.

Have you ever heard of the Roaring Twenties? People in the USA became bad people. There was all kinds of sexual sin, just like today. There was all kinds of murder - Bonnie and Clyde (into the '30s). People were becoming bad, and they were becoming irreligious, and against God.

Then we got mixed up in WWII. People went off to war and died. Their families turned back to God, became religious again, and prayed for peace like crazy. The Allies won the war. People thanked God. And ever since, the people have been turning bad again.

This time people are becoming so bad that they have killed of millions of babies through abortion. We are essentially murdering each other right in America. And abortion still reigns.

Personally, I think that we might be past the point of return with God. He might have destruction set in America's path. He might only be delaying it for the sake of the few godly people that are left. But when the Godly are gone or protected, God is going to let America feel the full blast of His anger for all the evil they have done.

What's the next monolith we will kneel before in the future? We need to destroy all monoliths. You mentioned Nietzsche, always one of the most perceptive thinkers: "Freedom is the will to be responsible for ourselves."

The old certainties of religion are fading. The newer certainties of belonging to a particular social class / nation / ethnic identity are blurring and fading. The world is becoming more global, and more fluid. Politicians are revealed as liars, we can't trust them. It is incumbent on us as individuals to be that: individuals. The established rules and consensus are slewing away. We must each make our own decisions. Fundamentally, we must each take responsibility for our own actions (or inaction).

Do we still believe in anything? I think this question is both a challenge and a source of inspiration.

Why would you think those are beliefs? Aren't they knowledge, especially after having been around so long, like you said?

You fail to mention a few beliefs we have in common with humans from past centuries.
Money
Leaders
Love

These have been here before our generation existed. And To answer your question, these beliefs would be stronger in every coming generation. It’s a constant, doesn’t change but gets stronger. I guess it runs in the genes. This is one of those times I wished I was a scientist, and could prove this.

the monolith of most people here is money, or bitcoin Well, things have not changed much, technology advances but humans are narcissistic, love their own creations, do not evolve morally, it is a pity.

BTW I'm pretty sure that sun and rain exist