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Quote from: crazylikeafox on November 17, 2017, 12:19:23 AM

Quote from: Dabs on November 16, 2017, 10:08:11 PM

I saw a thread earlier asking about Philippine based or targeted coins, and there have been a few attempts at a country coin. Is this really something that we are interested in?

The purposes for others was for remittances, for general investing, for bills payments and banking, for OFWs, for rewards, for points.

Would we like something similar to Bitcoin ATMs where you can buy and sell on a machine?

Do we want a free airdrop? Or an ICO? Or a mixture of both? (Bounties of course will be available.)

Discuss.

Okay ako sa ICO kung yung mga taong involve ay may backer katulad ng banks at financial institutions.

But i dont see any point putting up a coin kung bitcoin palang wala ideya ang karamihan dito sa pilipinas

Tama ka sir kasi sa totoo lang onti pa lang ang nakakaalam ng bitcoin dito sa bansa natin oo okay sana yung ico tapos merong airdrop at kung magkakaroon man ng mga company na involve mga bank company sana pero malabo at mahirap din kasi simulan to kung yung main coin eh onti palang ang nakakaalam dito sa bansa natin.

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If you mean gumawa ng sarili nating coins. Pwedeng-pwede naman yun peru dapat may purpose ang coins na ating gagawin para mag hit ito sa market.

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Quote from: Dabs on November 16, 2017, 10:08:11 PM

I saw a thread earlier asking about Philippine based or targeted coins, and there have been a few attempts at a country coin. Is this really something that we are interested in?

The purposes for others was for remittances, for general investing, for bills payments and banking, for OFWs, for rewards, for points.

Would we like something similar to Bitcoin ATMs where you can buy and sell on a machine?

Do we want a free airdrop? Or an ICO? Or a mixture of both? (Bounties of course will be available.)

Discuss.

yes because we earned it so i would like to have lots of coins for the future as i will achieve

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Quote from: crazylikeafox on November 23, 2017, 05:50:05 PM

Makakuha tayo ng maraming support kung its not done by ICO yung POW/POS. Problema nga lang no commitment unless makahanap ng team na willing to work for free.

No one is willing to work for free. Maybe it's possible, but if you have any sort of POW or POS, the coin will eventually get to a point of centralization. At kung POW, hindi pinoy ang mag mine nyan, kasi mahal kuryente naten. Baka maging offshore hosted or rent a miner or ganun.

POS pwede pa, or some variation that include Delegation DPOS, or POSP, or meron masternodes with at least 100 to 200 people who will help secure the network, lahat yan need to be paid or have incentive.

ICO lang talaga ang paraan, unless meron ka kilala na may few million dollar to get this started. I can't hire devs who work for free. You can't have signature campaign and posters work for free. Wala ng free sa mundo.

Pati ako, kung ako gagawa nito, eh, pamigay ko siguro 99%, pero may bayad parin ako ng 1%.

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Quote from: Dabs on November 23, 2017, 09:00:55 AM

What we want is a real altcoin with it's own blockchain, not some token that is under Ethereum or Classic, or Waves or the like. Meron na nakita ilan na ICO o crowdsale ng mga tokens din, which is good for fund raising. In the end dapat meron hiwalay na network and not dependent on an existing platform. Kasi kung ganun, eh di ETH na lang mismo ang gamitin o BTC.

Makakuha tayo ng maraming support kung its not done by ICO yung POW/POS. Problema nga lang no commitment unless makahanap ng team na willing to work for free.

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Quote from: Dabs on November 22, 2017, 10:44:10 PM

Ang problema sa mga nabanggit:

1. Pesobit = wala na, patay na, no value
2. E-Peso = wala pa ... government coin, naghihintay ... wait forever ka dyan. Kung may kilala kayo sa office ni Rep. Kimi Cojuanco, paki sabi kausapen ako. Also hindi sure kung PoW or PoS or whatever. Medyo malabo as is.
3. Hindi problema ang KYC / AML kasi required talaga yan, maski sa dalawang major exchanges ngayon (at lahat ng maliliit.) Except localbitcoins.

okay maraming salamat po sa sagot niyo dito nabigyan linaw din po sakin at sa iba.

Quote from: Dabs on November 23, 2017, 09:00:55 AM

What we want is a real altcoin with it's own blockchain, not some token that is under Ethereum or Classic, or Waves or the like. Meron na nakita ilan na ICO o crowdsale ng mga tokens din, which is good for fund raising. In the end dapat meron hiwalay na network and not dependent on an existing platform. Kasi kung ganun, eh di ETH na lang mismo ang gamitin o BTC.

sana nga po pero kung ganun man mangyari sana maimplement nila tulad ng Russia at China which is nasa planning stage. meron po akong nakita dito sa atin ICO sya under NEM blockchain, kung pamilyar po kayo sa loyalcoin.io at tingin ko papatok po sya though rewards system based sya parang whoopercoin ng Waves. pero hanap nga natin is Peso currency talaga sayang talaga ung mga nabanggit sa taas. wag po kayo magalala makakarating po ung kay Rep. Kimi Cojuanco ung ganyan bagay.

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What we want is a real altcoin with it's own blockchain, not some token that is under Ethereum or Classic, or Waves or the like. Meron na nakita ilan na ICO o crowdsale ng mga tokens din, which is good for fund raising. In the end dapat meron hiwalay na network and not dependent on an existing platform. Kasi kung ganun, eh di ETH na lang mismo ang gamitin o BTC.

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Naalala ko yung Pesobit coin, yung pinaka first altcoin na pinagpraktisan ko sa trading noon, yun yata yung unang pinoy altcoin. Mas maganda kung meron mga iba pang gagawa ng altcoin na made in the philippines, yung may original blockchain at hindi based on some altcoins.

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Sa ngayon po may ginagamit po kaming coins sa small community or group of people dito sa Davao which we use po to buy things and this coins is created by group of miners dito sa atin. Yong coins po ay under with Ethereum Blockchain. Tinatangkilik po namin coz we believed lalaki po ito at makikilala ng mga Pinoy. Target po nito ay magamit una ng mga Pinoy yong 30% sa kabuuan ang coins bago po i open sa mundo. Not allowed pa po ako to mention its name, just to ask permission pa po sa Admin namin kung pwede na.

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Quote from: vincentong17 on November 22, 2017, 05:10:44 PM

Sir,ask ko lang po san makikita yan E-peso na yan? at anong exchange? parang wala pa kasi kong nbalita nyan though sa nabasa kong article 7billion premined sya? tama po ba?

Yes, tama po. Pero itong E-Peso ay iba po sa ibang virtual/digital currency dahil nakabase lang po siya sa Philippine Peso at hindi din siya nakapasok sa mga exchange. Parang sabihin natin na exclusive lang siya dito sa atin na pwede mong gamitin, partikular na sa remittance o di kaya sa pag-settle ng bills. Pwede mong i-check siya dito.

Quote from: Dabs on November 22, 2017, 10:44:10 PM

Ang problema sa mga nabanggit:

1. Pesobit = wala na, patay na, no value
2. E-Peso = wala pa ... government coin, naghihintay ... wait forever ka dyan. Kung may kilala kayo sa office ni Rep. Kimi Cojuanco, paki sabi kausapen ako. Also hindi sure kung PoW or PoS or whatever. Medyo malabo as is.
3. Hindi problema ang KYC / AML kasi required talaga yan, maski sa dalawang major exchanges ngayon (at lahat ng maliliit.) Except localbitcoins.

Natapos na ata term niya sir. Kaya parang wala na din pag-asa sa E-Peso kahit mayroon na silang nasimulan dati. Sa Twitter nalang din po siya ata ngayon active at wala ng engagement sa iba pa.

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Ang problema sa mga nabanggit:

1. Pesobit = wala na, patay na, no value
2. E-Peso = wala pa ... government coin, naghihintay ... wait forever ka dyan. Kung may kilala kayo sa office ni Rep. Kimi Cojuanco, paki sabi kausapen ako. Also hindi sure kung PoW or PoS or whatever. Medyo malabo as is.
3. Hindi problema ang KYC / AML kasi required talaga yan, maski sa dalawang major exchanges ngayon (at lahat ng maliliit.) Except localbitcoins.

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Quote from: genolica on November 22, 2017, 03:45:52 AM

this can be a good opportunity, kapag masusuportahan ng local government, private and public banks. it can help the economy grow din, dahil marami ang potensyal ng cryptocurrency

malaki ang potensyal talaga ng crypto sa ating bansa ang problema lang pra sakin e hindi pa naadopt , kaya kung magkakaroon tayo ng sarili nating coin para sakin maganda yon lalo kung totally na iaadopt ng pinas maganda kung pati mga kilalang o malallaking negosyante e mag iinvest sa coin natin para mas lalong makilala.

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Quote from: Blake_Last on November 21, 2017, 10:57:39 AM

Quote from: Dabs on November 21, 2017, 09:56:14 AM

Quote from: Blake_Last on November 20, 2017, 10:57:24 PM

Kung yung coin naman ay may backup na ng BSP at iba major financial institution dito sa atin, hindi na nila kailangan pa maglunsad ng ICO or magdistribute ng airdrop.

Yan ang problema, unless gobyerno mismo ang gagawa ng coin, walang backing yan nila.

Ang balak naten is just a new altcoin that can do everything we need it to do, have a more or less stable (as far as crypto is concerned) value, maski volatile sa umpisa, give others who protect the network an incentive to do so by earning (such as PoS / staking / delegation / masternode / something anything) at meron jump started businesses like ATMs and remittances that we can offer.

Parang lahat ng nabanggit mo na yan sir Dabs ay nagawa na ng Pesobit, maliban lang sa paggawa ng sarili nilang ATMs at masternode, pero yung remittance, mayroon na din.

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Kung totoong e-peso, na parang yung ginawa ng isang Senator o Congressman, then that's government controlled. The best that a private entity can do would be something like Globe GCash or Smart Money, and all the others that have some sort of rewards, but those are for different purposes na. However we want to focus on cryptocurrency, desktop and mobile wallets. I'd even avoid an online wallet unless it's one that can separate your private key or just merely connect to the network (like myetherwallet, but not like coins.ph)

Yes, tama ka sir. Yang E-Peso yan yung sa House Bill 4914 ni Rep. Kimi Cojuanco at yes, controlled nga po siya ng gobyerno. Base doon sa nabasa ko sa bill, ang gusto niyang mangyari diyan ay magamit yung E-Peso para sa payment ng "debt, taxes, goods and services" na yung transaction ay gagawin sa pamamagitan ng internet. Kumbaga parang magagamit mo na din yung E-Peso na parang PHP mismo dahil taglay nito yung karakterismo noong huli, pero ang magdidikta nga lang ng transaction mo is gobyerno pa din.

Check mo pala ito, sir Dabs. Yan yung paliwanag ni sir Luis Buenaventura tungkol sa E-Peso Bill of 2014.

Pero naisip ko lang sir, di ba parang lahat ata din controlled ng gobyerno, maliban lang sa mga hindi magpapatupad ng KYC/AML? Even Globe GCash at Smart Money ay required na lahat ng subscribers nila na mag-undergo ng KYC process.

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Another alternative is something like tether, pero wala tayong backing for that kind of campaign or infrastructure, need hundreds of millions of dollars for that.

Hindi ko lang sigurado sir pero parang yang E-Peso ay parang Tether na din ata ang dating niya since nakabase siya sa value ng Philipines peso, tulad ng Tether sa USD.

Sir,ask ko lang po san makikita yan E-peso na yan? at anong exchange? parang wala pa kasi kong nbalita nyan though sa nabasa kong article 7billion premined sya? tama po ba?

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Quote from: Dabs on November 16, 2017, 10:08:11 PM

I saw a thread earlier asking about Philippine based or targeted coins, and there have been a few attempts at a country coin. Is this really something that we are interested in?

The purposes for others was for remittances, for general investing, for bills payments and banking, for OFWs, for rewards, for points.

Would we like something similar to Bitcoin ATMs where you can buy and sell on a machine?

Do we want a free airdrop? Or an ICO? Or a mixture of both? (Bounties of course will be available.)

Discuss.

Sang ayon din po ako dito, malaking bagay eto para makilala na ng tuluyan ang cryptocurrency, kung maraming susuporta dito at tayo ay magtutulungan malamang maging successful eto.

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this can be a good opportunity, kapag masusuportahan ng local government, private and public banks. it can help the economy grow din, dahil marami ang potensyal ng cryptocurrency

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Quote from: Mhelmich on November 21, 2017, 08:39:42 PM

Wow magandang plan po yan, papatok po yan siguro by the future kasi sa ngayon wala pa gaanong nakakaalam or konti palang dito sa pilipinas ang may alam about it siguro mas maganda the more na may makaalam the better. Di imposible na magkaroon tayo ng ating sariling coins.

kung magkakaroon tayo ng sarili nating coin maganda nga pero dapat tayong mga pilipino rin muna ang tumangkilik nito para makilala talaga sa buong bansa. malaki ang magiging pakinabang ng bansa natin kung mangyari ang adhikain na ito,

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Wow magandang plan po yan, papatok po yan siguro by the future kasi sa ngayon wala pa gaanong nakakaalam or konti palang dito sa pilipinas ang may alam about it siguro mas maganda the more na may makaalam the better. Di imposible na magkaroon tayo ng ating sariling coins.

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Quote from: Dabs on November 21, 2017, 09:56:14 AM

Quote from: Blake_Last on November 20, 2017, 10:57:24 PM

Kung yung coin naman ay may backup na ng BSP at iba major financial institution dito sa atin, hindi na nila kailangan pa maglunsad ng ICO or magdistribute ng airdrop.

Yan ang problema, unless gobyerno mismo ang gagawa ng coin, walang backing yan nila.

Ang balak naten is just a new altcoin that can do everything we need it to do, have a more or less stable (as far as crypto is concerned) value, maski volatile sa umpisa, give others who protect the network an incentive to do so by earning (such as PoS / staking / delegation / masternode / something anything) at meron jump started businesses like ATMs and remittances that we can offer.

Parang lahat ng nabanggit mo na yan sir Dabs ay nagawa na ng Pesobit, maliban lang sa paggawa ng sarili nilang ATMs at masternode, pero yung remittance, mayroon na din.

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Kung totoong e-peso, na parang yung ginawa ng isang Senator o Congressman, then that's government controlled. The best that a private entity can do would be something like Globe GCash or Smart Money, and all the others that have some sort of rewards, but those are for different purposes na. However we want to focus on cryptocurrency, desktop and mobile wallets. I'd even avoid an online wallet unless it's one that can separate your private key or just merely connect to the network (like myetherwallet, but not like coins.ph)

Yes, tama ka sir. Yang E-Peso yan yung sa House Bill 4914 ni Rep. Kimi Cojuanco at yes, controlled nga po siya ng gobyerno. Base doon sa nabasa ko sa bill, ang gusto niyang mangyari diyan ay magamit yung E-Peso para sa payment ng "debt, taxes, goods and services" na yung transaction ay gagawin sa pamamagitan ng internet. Kumbaga parang magagamit mo na din yung E-Peso na parang PHP mismo dahil taglay nito yung karakterismo noong huli, pero ang magdidikta nga lang ng transaction mo is gobyerno pa din.

Check mo pala ito, sir Dabs. Yan yung paliwanag ni sir Luis Buenaventura tungkol sa E-Peso Bill of 2014.

Pero naisip ko lang sir, di ba parang lahat ata din controlled ng gobyerno, maliban lang sa mga hindi magpapatupad ng KYC/AML? Even Globe GCash at Smart Money ay required na lahat ng subscribers nila na mag-undergo ng KYC process.

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Another alternative is something like tether, pero wala tayong backing for that kind of campaign or infrastructure, need hundreds of millions of dollars for that.

Hindi ko lang sigurado sir pero parang yang E-Peso ay parang Tether na din ata ang dating niya since nakabase siya sa value ng Philipines peso, tulad ng Tether sa USD.

Dabs

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Quote from: Blake_Last on November 20, 2017, 10:57:24 PM

Kung yung coin naman ay may backup na ng BSP at iba major financial institution dito sa atin, hindi na nila kailangan pa maglunsad ng ICO or magdistribute ng airdrop.

Yan ang problema, unless gobyerno mismo ang gagawa ng coin, walang backing yan nila.

Ang balak naten is just a new altcoin that can do everything we need it to do, have a more or less stable (as far as crypto is concerned) value, maski volatile sa umpisa, give others who protect the network an incentive to do so by earning (such as PoS / staking / delegation / masternode / something anything) at meron jump started businesses like ATMs and remittances that we can offer.

Kung totoong e-peso, na parang yung ginawa ng isang Senator o Congressman, then that's government controlled. The best that a private entity can do would be something like Globe GCash or Smart Money, and all the others that have some sort of rewards, but those are for different purposes na. However we want to focus on cryptocurrency, desktop and mobile wallets. I'd even avoid an online wallet unless it's one that can separate your private key or just merely connect to the network (like myetherwallet, but not like coins.ph)

Another alternative is something like tether, pero wala tayong backing for that kind of campaign or infrastructure, need hundreds of millions of dollars for that.

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Quote from: Dabs on November 16, 2017, 10:08:11 PM

I saw a thread earlier asking about Philippine based or targeted coins, and there have been a few attempts at a country coin. Is this really something that we are interested in?

The purposes for others was for remittances, for general investing, for bills payments and banking, for OFWs, for rewards, for points.

Kung sa interesado, oo. Sa kasalukuyan kasi marami na din pong mga bansa ang nag-e-explore ng posibilidad na magkaroon ng sarili nilang digital/virtual currency na kahanay ng gamit nilang national currency. Nauna na diyan, halimbawa, ang Estonia na nagplano noon na maglaunch ng sarili nilang coin, ang Estcoin. Nariyan din ang Russia ("CryptoRubble") at Japan ("J-Coin") pero ang purpose noong digital cash na gusto nilang pasimulan is mainly for investment at for additional payment option.

Kung maiaapply man yan dito sa Pinas, kung sakali, siguro kaparehas din noong gustong gawin ng mga naturang bansa na nabanggit pero mananatili pa rin yung national currency natin na PHP. Ang parang mangyayari lang magkakaroon ng additional currency o commodity na pwedeng magamit, partikular na sa mga nabanggit mo po tulad ng remittance at general investing. Isama na din natin yung payment sa online merchants.

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Would we like something similar to Bitcoin ATMs where you can buy and sell on a machine?

May mga nabasa ako dati na mga attempts na ginawa ng mga cryptocurrency startup companies, na nakabase dito sa atin na magtayo ng sarili nilang ATM na similar sa Bitcoin ATM. Kung hindi ako nagkakamali, ang ilan sa company na ito ay yung Genuisys International Systems Corp (GISC), gamit ang kanilang E-Peso, at PesoBit. Pero so far, ang parang nangyari palang o nagawa palang nila ay makipagmerger sa mga global payments at technology company tulad ng Mastercard at Visa at gamitin yung card nila.

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Do we want a free airdrop? Or an ICO? Or a mixture of both? (Bounties of course will be available.)

Sa opinyon ko lang po, hindi na kailangan. Kung yung coin naman ay may backup na ng BSP at iba pang major financial institution dito sa atin, hindi na nila kailangan pa maglunsad ng ICO or magdistribute ng airdrop.

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