Do you believe in the NWO? What economic effect could it have on bitcoin?

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Quote from: Hydrogen on April 06, 2017, 05:04:33 PM

If bitcoin could seriously help alleviate those issues, I'd be all for that.

Well, Bitcoin could probably not reduce this kind of slavery directly, but could reduce the power of certain groups and forces behind the slavery, mainly banks and investment funds, and it also could help lower the dependency of many third-world companies on external currencies (like the USD).

Most companies depend on financing from sources that have only profit in mind and don't care about ethics (or do so in a "marketable" way, like CSR). Many of the employees - even higher-ranked ones - of these investment companies don't have bad intentions but are caught in the system themselves - they must deliver (profitable) results

Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies can deliver a less elitist and more decentralized way of investing. That's possible in the banking system too (there are, in fact, "ethical banks" where customers invest because they know ethics are respected, and even banks with P2P lending) but they are, until now, niche players. And crowdfunding is potentially easier with cryptos than via fiat-based centralized middlemen like Kickstarter, above all, in third-world countries.

On the other hand, a future "stable" Bitcoin could replace the USD and other currencies viewed as "stable" as the main token for accountability in third-world-countries' companies.

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It is not about believing, it is very obvious that an effort is made to create institutions that are above the countries and that are able to even take over the decision process made in the countries the European Union is a clear example of this.

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Quote from: President79 on April 10, 2017, 02:19:03 AM

I don't think it's as easy as that, although banned user but could have done a lot already, during the bitcoin still many loyal users of course the price will never drop significantly.

As long as the media continues to attack Trump, I will have to think Trump hasn't sold out and is still trying to make the world a better place for everyone.

The media also attacked Obama early in his 1st term, back when Obama tried to pass real reform over financial/banking/credit card industries.

I tend to believe Trump is good for bitcoin and crypto, but we will have to see as Trump has never said anything about bitcoin that I know of.

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Trump is from the NWO, he will ban bitcoin soon or later guys. Bitcoin price will go down huge. Be carefull, start to sell everthing

I don't think it's as easy as that, although banned user but could have done a lot already, during the bitcoin still many loyal users of course the price will never drop significantly.

Hydrogen

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Looks like globalists(nwo) might get their russia vs america war, if they succeed at goading Trump into attacking Assad further.

There could be a significant amount of regime change in Trump's administration with McMaster shuffling the deck of people in power.

McMaster is pushing hard for american soldiers on the ground in Syria to topple Assad.

Things are not looking good.

Pab

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There is always some NWO,it is enough to look history,before WW1 was NWO,after was new one.After WW2 was next one,together with iron courtine fail there was confusion,what to do.Now we domination of global corporations but that is also going to change.Bitcoin what is bitcoin bitcoin is nothing

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Quote from: lOvE mE forEvEr on April 08, 2017, 10:07:22 AM

Yes it seems so, "new world order" will certainly strive to unite the world into 1 currency so that someday they could control the finances and make the other party's chaotic.

I think is very imposible all the world use one curency
you see dollar can't to one curency, all country not use USdollar, if open one curency must create new curency, example in europa create new curency with name euro and all europa country use euro curency, except england still use poundsterling, swiss still use franc swiss and more

Yuuto

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First of all, i would like to say that NWO probably wants to go for one, digital currency worldwide.
Why is that? Because it is highly possible that the makers of NWO want to make people traceable and "transparent" at any moment, so the i assume they would want us to have the chip under the skin, which would connect with our personal wallet and the shop "bank" account.

No cash, and only one traceable digital currency means the authorities may know when you bought a product,were you bought it and for how much.

lOvE mE forEvEr

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Yes it seems so, "new world order" will certainly strive to unite the world into 1 currency so that someday they could control the finances and make the other party's chaotic.

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Quote from: d5000 on April 02, 2017, 08:50:00 AM

We ourselves - at least, the "global middle and upper class" - participate in this "world government" by legitimating exploitation - yes, it can be called "slavery" - of billions of people, and most of "ourselves" are caught in this system. Part of our "work ethics" - above all our ideal of "self-optimization" - is contributing to it. One enjoyable example of writings about that phenomenon is Byung-chul Han's Fatigue Society.

But Bitcoin is, in my opinion, a tool that could change part of this system. It's only a tool, though, and only in one particular domain - money, so we shouldn't overestimate it.

I feel guilty when I think about the clothes I'm wearing being made in sweatshops, the bottled water I'm drinking being produced by coca cola who is known to resort to assassinations to prevent workers in foreign countries from unionizing and the fact that a lot of the electronics I use were manufactured in china, possibly with slave or child labor. Pet food comes from asia where slave labor is used on ships, sea salt comes from slave labor in south korea. Palm oil, which is used in many supermarket products comes from mass deforestation in indonesia. Almost every product people consume in the west has some terrible exploitive history behind it.

If bitcoin could seriously help alleviate those issues, I'd be all for that.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on March 31, 2017, 11:10:26 AM

Sometimes, I wonder if a one world government might be like north korea where no one realizes they're oppressed, because the entire world is one gigantic slave labor camp.

If everything people saw and heard under a one world government said slavery was normal & they had nothing else to compare it to, it might be easy to believe.

I think there is some truth on it, only that I don't believe we really have a centralized world government with a pure "top-down" hierarchy like most NWO theorists believe it.

We ourselves - at least, the "global middle and upper class" - participate in this "world government" by legitimating exploitation - yes, it can be called "slavery" - of billions of people, and most of "ourselves" are caught in this system. Part of our "work ethics" - above all our ideal of "self-optimization" - is contributing to it. One enjoyable example of writings about that phenomenon is Byung-chul Han's Fatigue Society.

But Bitcoin is, in my opinion, a tool that could change part of this system. It's only a tool, though, and only in one particular domain - money, so we shouldn't overestimate it.

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I do not think that they somehow bet on bitcoin. They can influence banks and war. They are interested in managing people, cleaning up unnecessary ones and those who are hindering their pilpms. In any case, you can expect anything from them, they do not tell anyone about their plans.

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Yeah right I believe the NWO exists, certainly many groups that want to realize the change the world, they will do everything to achieve a goal. We must be alert to them, they will do war, trickery and intervention.

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Since we agree that the banking system (Morgan's , Rockefeller, Rothchild's and others) is behind the New world order idea and that they control every central bank in the world except the one in Cuba, North Korea, Iran ,we should also agree that they won't simply let "decentralization" take place and they will fight the bitcoin community and the economic effect will remain unknown (depends how power the community is). I don't think the elite created bitcoin though. If It was closed source, maybe but since everything is on public ledger and code is open source, I highly doubt it.

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Quote from: d5000 on March 30, 2017, 02:27:29 PM

I don't think the global elites would profit from something like a "one world government". That would be too transparent.

North korean defectors to south korea or china are essentially slaves, but they don't realize they're slaves.

To them their lifestyle is normal. Everything they see and hear tells them the entire world is like north korea.

It isn't until after they see other people in other countries having freedom, living different lives, that they realize they were oppressed.

Sometimes, I wonder if a one world government might be like north korea where no one realizes they're oppressed, because the entire world is one gigantic slave labor camp.

If everything people saw and heard under a one world government said slavery was normal & they had nothing else to compare it to, it might be easy to believe.

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I don't think the global elites would profit from something like a "one world government". That would be too transparent. They're far better trying to push their agenda from the shadows, organizing their elitist conferences to coordinate efforts to profit more, etc.

I don't believe in a "one and only" elite, though. I think there are many different groups with different interests (e.g. industrial elite and banking elite) that conspire sometimes to maximize profits.

As to the influence on Bitcoin, I don't believe the theory that Bitcoin was launched from the elites. There was already much prior work and so if it wasn't "Satoshi" it would have been another hacker who invented BTC. And as Bitcoin paved the way for Monero and other privacy-oriented currencies, I don't think also that BTC was launched to tighten surveillance on monetary transfers. So I don't think there are "economic effects" from "NWO" to Bitcoin.

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Nice article posted in OP. I believe in the NWO. I guess we can say for exemple The ~~Great~~ Europe was a step to their plan.I am not sure what could be the economic effect on bitcoin. We can think on 2 cases.
Who know if Bitcoin is not a step in their agenda ? Did you know in 1996 the NSA(or CIA) was already talking about a cryptocurrency and how to implement it. So if it is something on their plan, It would mean that if It's success Bitcoin will somedays become official, recognized and used as a major currency. Remember the number of Bitcoin is limited Grin

In another case, as we know, one of the goal for the NWO is a total control over the population. And Bitcoin can be a real threat to them, so we can imagine them trying to destroy the reputation of bitcoin using any way they have, medias, press, laws, whatever. Something that will result in a zero value of Bitcoin or something useless if we won't be able to use it

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Now there is a lot of false information and if you believe everything, then you can just go crazy. One must always have one's own point of view and compose one picture from several sources of information. World governments have always existed and will continue to exist. Ordinary mortals do not even have the honor to talk with them. Well, what can the forecasts be ... it will be hard for everyone, but we should avoid war, because the war will destroy even those who created it.

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The shadow government existed long before the established states existed. The one who made a move to create an established society are the shadow government, they looked like heroes working for freedom and democracy but in fact they want to create a free society that they can control. As of this moment when the government and society are established they gain more power and influence over the state as well as in all sectors of society. They hate war since war will destroy their plan of world domination, the kind of war they are good is war on resources such as food and money.

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The New World Order is all about control. Man's insatiable desire to control others beyond their geographical boundaries. Bitcoin is all about decentralisation, equal power and rights to all stakeholders. My concern is that sooner than later, the NWO proponents will find a way to decentralize bitcoin and all related technologies.

If you ask me the reason for them doing this, it boils down to CONTROL

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