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Majority will choose its market value over its purpose simply because that is more beneficial to them/us especially as investors. Also, it is not yet accepted to most of the countries.
The majority that chooses Bitcoin value over its purpose doesn't understand the importance of Bitcoin because there's no way BTC will achieve its purpose that it won't impact the price of the BTC market.

Lastly, its volatile market value is quite of a problem on using it as a medium because there are times its value is high, and times wherein it is low. Would you wait for its msrket price to go up before you buy something? Ofcourse not, you'd be guilty by doing such 'coz you'd rather use money from your pocket.
Yes, the volatility of the BTC market has cons and pros. I could remember getting a loan from someone before the last bullish market and I have to x2 in USD the amount of loan I requested for.
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Majority will choose its market value over its purpose simply because that is more beneficial to them/us especially as investors. Also, it is not yet accepted to most of the countries. Lastly, its volatile market value is quite of a problem on using it as a medium because there are times its value is high, and times wherein it is low. Would you wait for its msrket price to go up before you buy something? Ofcourse not, you'd be guilty by doing such 'coz you'd rather use money from your pocket. If you'd use it to buy things, you'd lose the chance to earn bigger profit, that's how simple it is, and the reason why people are mostly avoiding to use it as a medium for transactions.

But in the future, once more countries allowed it and somehow made its value less volatile, then that would be the time where the advantages of this technology will be maximized.
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It depend what is your purpose of joining Bitcoin. If you are a investor with no concern for tech. You might think of only money. If you are someone a tech developer associated with bitcoin for quite some time you will measure it by its blockchain efficiency and strength.
However, this is what we are talking about when saying that you sort of need to care about the tech even if you are only an investor. As a tech person you won't need to care about the price because only thing you care about is the tech behind it and if all works perfectly as intended then people could sell it all, who cares, the purpose was to make it work in tech sense and the code works.

But, if you are just an investor, and the tech is wobbly and doesn't work right, that would still hurt you and the price would crash, so you need to care about the tech side as much as the price side, or the purpose as much as possible because all of that also impacts the price.

Although to activist, the qualities of BTC is the most important, they care about the price also.

As more people come into crypto, price becomes important because most are investors and speculators who are trying to accumulate. The price of BTC is the most talked about whenever it's mentioned. BTC is less attractive if the price dives and more talked about on TV when its price also soars to ATH.
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It depend what is your purpose of joining Bitcoin. If you are a investor with no concern for tech. You might think of only money. If you are someone a tech developer associated with bitcoin for quite some time you will measure it by its blockchain efficiency and strength.
However, this is what we are talking about when saying that you sort of need to care about the tech even if you are only an investor. As a tech person you won't need to care about the price because only thing you care about is the tech behind it and if all works perfectly as intended then people could sell it all, who cares, the purpose was to make it work in tech sense and the code works.

But, if you are just an investor, and the tech is wobbly and doesn't work right, that would still hurt you and the price would crash, so you need to care about the tech side as much as the price side, or the purpose as much as possible because all of that also impacts the price.
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People can only go with the mainstream. The fact on the ground is that the increase in value growth platforms such as exchanges and staking is more than the shops implementing bitcoin payments. The influencers also don't stop introducing bitcoin in terms of price and wealth prospects. With this influence, price has become the first talk of every bitcoin topic whether people think it is important or not.
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I would not say that the price is more important than the reasons why Bitcoin is existing but since this is a P2P payment system and is openly traded in the marketplace we could never get away from the price...otherwise it would mean to have no financial value at all. Now, it would be safe to say that its purpose and its price are two important things for Bitcoin. This is like buying a shampoo...we are looking for its utility and of course we also look at the price.
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There are two types of price movements: bull markets and bear markets. In the bull market, the majority of bitcoin investors are buying, demand outweighs supply, market confidence is at a high, and prices are rising. On the other hand, they are the opposite of the bull market. Bear markets are defined as a period of time where supply is greater than demand, confidence is low, and prices are falling.

In his paper, Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System, Satoshi Nakamoto states that the purpose of Bitcoin is a purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash that would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution.

So far, I would like to think that bitcoin has been living up to the expectations of Satoshi Nakamoto despite the numerous challenges it has encountered. Nevertheless, the price volatility has been a huge concern to so many people all over the world. I want to know your thoughts - Do you consider the price of Bitcoin to be more important than its purpose?
For me, Bitcoin's price works hand-in-hand with its purpose. Back in the old days, when bitcoin is still worth less than a dime not a lot of people are aware of its purpose, much more of its existence. But as it rose to power and price, more and more people are seeing its benefit in the financial and the security aspects. I do not think one is more important than the other, because without purpose, people wouldn't be so confident to invest on it and entrust their future to it, without price, no one would bat an eye to bitcoin and it would just be kicked into the curb like most ventures without enough financial backing.
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Without the means to profit, I do not think Bitcoin will be that popular.  It is given that the purpose of creation of Bitcoin should be the most important thing but in adoption, people are driven by profit and rewards so at the current situation of Bitcoin, I think the Bitcoin price is more important. 
It's no hypocrisy that I'm here and I really support Bitcoin, one of the main factors because the price of Bitcoin continues to soar from time to time, especially during bullish times. And I'm also sure most people will be the same, wanting high profits from Bitcoin. However, it is undeniable that our increase and support for Bitcoin is inseparable from what is behind Bitcoin itself. The utility of Bitcoin, the trust, and the reputation that Bitcoin has are not the result of an instant process, but a very difficult process that has been passed. And if we are aware of the technology and the goals of Bitcoin itself, we will be more and more fond of Bitcoin.

Yeah, funny how many of us say Hodl instead of saying use it as a payment option. We can also read everyday Bitcoin news which tackles the ups and downs of the market, and when there is adoption news, the surge in Bitcoin market price is always attached to the news.  So this only means that Bitcoin price weigh more than its purpose at the current state of Bitcoin.
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Price is important, so bitcoin can fulfill its purpose, that is to provide a decentralized person to person transaction alternative. A minimum of stability is expected from bitcoin's price, so at the moment you purchased btc to send to someone on the other side of the world, its price will be almost the same on the moment that person receives the transaction. That is why price is important.

Otherwise, the transacted money could reach on the other side with a devaluation of 50% or more... on that case it wouldn' make sense to use bitcoin, as its purpose would be irrelevant.
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Without the means to profit, I do not think Bitcoin will be that popular.  It is given that the purpose of creation of Bitcoin should be the most important thing but in adoption, people are driven by profit and rewards so at the current situation of Bitcoin, I think the Bitcoin price is more important. 
It's no hypocrisy that I'm here and I really support Bitcoin, one of the main factors because the price of Bitcoin continues to soar from time to time, especially during bullish times. And I'm also sure most people will be the same, wanting high profits from Bitcoin. However, it is undeniable that our increase and support for Bitcoin is inseparable from what is behind Bitcoin itself. The utility of Bitcoin, the trust, and the reputation that Bitcoin has are not the result of an instant process, but a very difficult process that has been passed. And if we are aware of the technology and the goals of Bitcoin itself, we will be more and more fond of Bitcoin.
Also it is important to remember that without the technology and the ideals behind bitcoin the project would have never reached its current price, after all who would have bought bitcoin if it was centralized and controlled by a single individual? Such a coin would be even worse than the fiat currencies we have today and governments would have destroyed it long ago, so even if people do not care about the purpose behind bitcoin we know that it is the only reason why it still remains alive to this day.
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For me it is hard to say whether Bitcoin is trojan horsing it's way into traditional finance in order to then activate things like anonymity and more efforts to remain immutable.  Right now though it certainly looks like Bitcoin price as an investment vehicle is all that matters.  So while I don't agree with this repurposing of Bitcoin as a hold only store of value asset, this may be what the world needs to let the horse in the front gates.  It is hoped that once Bitcoin has crossed the threshold of becoming inevitably used by the entire world, developers (who will have to be anonymous) will step up and provide us the privacy and safety needed to truly be free.
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Do you consider the price of Bitcoin to be more important than its purpose?

No definitely not, in my opinion is the purpose of Bitcoins 10 times more important than the price. For day traders it's all about the price, they are looking for the short term gain as they buy and sell each day. For me it's about the long term prosperity of Bitcoins. I stopped actively trading bitcoins a long time ago and joined the HODL community. It's much less stress and requires not a lot of time to buy and hold longterm. The price of Bitcoins is always going to fluctuate, as does any other asset in the world. But as long as there is a strong purpose behind bitcoins the longterm trend is going to be upwards. If bitcoin would lose its purpose, or become less dominant as the number one crypto currency, then also the price is going to be affected. Short term traders and long term investors need to work together to keep the bitcoin market active, if one of these groups would leave the market than the bitcoin price would collapse, and not recover if there is no new purpose for it.
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Without the means to profit, I do not think Bitcoin will be that popular.  It is given that the purpose of creation of Bitcoin should be the most important thing but in adoption, people are driven by profit and rewards so at the current situation of Bitcoin, I think the Bitcoin price is more important.  
It's no hypocrisy that I'm here and I really support Bitcoin, one of the main factors because the price of Bitcoin continues to soar from time to time, especially during bullish times. And I'm also sure most people will be the same, wanting high profits from Bitcoin. However, it is undeniable that our increase and support for Bitcoin is inseparable from what is behind Bitcoin itself. The utility of Bitcoin, the trust, and the reputation that Bitcoin has are not the result of an instant process, but a very difficult process that has been passed. And if we are aware of the technology and the goals of Bitcoin itself, we will be more and more fond of Bitcoin.

I see that the only purpose of bitcoin is to free us from the tyranny of the world economy that is controlled by governments and banks, I do not see that there is another utility, I know that Gold is an asset that is always worthy to have because of its wide acceptance, but I see that Bitcoin is much more valuable, both in price and in Shelter of Value, and I know that in a few years the price of bitcoin will be very high, so much so that it will be impossible for some people to acquire the bitcoin and now that there is the great opportunity at a price of $20k, which in 2017 was the highest price, are you thinking that it is very cheap and that it is useless, when it is at $70k will people think the same?

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Going with Satoshi's vision, we have bitcoin that can be used without boundaries
It is an international borderless electronic currency.

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there are other problems here, because that bitcoin cannot be easily spent for the article that you might need - at that point fiat currencies become more useful. So with that immediately comes in the question of BTC<>Fiat conversions. Eventually that market grew and became a speculative market.
On Earth, nowadays we have fiat currencies, Bitcoin, cryptocurrencies (alternative cryptocurrencies) and CBDCs. The number of available CBDCs is still small but it will increase with time when more governments and central banks develop and launch theirs.

It's good to have a diversification of different currency types to choose and use. It is helpful for daily usages locally.

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1BTC is always 1BTC though, how much someone is willing to spend to buy/sell it changes with time depending on the demand/supply.
It's true but investors have to take profit and get their initial capital safely back first. If they already have initial capital back, get some profit, they can strongly hold the rest bitcoins they have in 10 years or longer.
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Without the means to profit, I do not think Bitcoin will be that popular.  It is given that the purpose of creation of Bitcoin should be the most important thing but in adoption, people are driven by profit and rewards so at the current situation of Bitcoin, I think the Bitcoin price is more important. 
It's no hypocrisy that I'm here and I really support Bitcoin, one of the main factors because the price of Bitcoin continues to soar from time to time, especially during bullish times. And I'm also sure most people will be the same, wanting high profits from Bitcoin. However, it is undeniable that our increase and support for Bitcoin is inseparable from what is behind Bitcoin itself. The utility of Bitcoin, the trust, and the reputation that Bitcoin has are not the result of an instant process, but a very difficult process that has been passed. And if we are aware of the technology and the goals of Bitcoin itself, we will be more and more fond of Bitcoin.
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It is true as you have said but I think the price and value goes a long way to give it the desired attention it derives. If the value is not worthwhile, the price would not have be this hi high. The value makes the price appreciate. As it stands now, Bitcoin value has far surpassed many expectations and therefore gave room for the value. One of the most intriguing aspect of it is that it was the first blockchain Genesis therefore tagged digital gold which have paved way for other blockchain to emerge. Just as Satoshi Nakamoto has stated in the white paper which you stated already, the peer to peer value is another thing to look into because it is a botherless transaction and has since been the best options for transaction between and within customers doing business.

Never the less, price volatile is another beautiful aspect of blockchain because this calls for more investors. It is known that bear market is the best time to fill the bag so therefore investors makes good use of the opportunity to buy more which however increases their portfolio. Bitcoin price have never been stable and this gives room for profit making

So therefore, OP, as you have said in your topic, the both goes a long way to satisfy investors.
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Without the means to profit, I do not think Bitcoin will be that popular.  It is given that the purpose of creation of Bitcoin should be the most important thing but in adoption, people are driven by profit and rewards so at the current situation of Bitcoin, I think the Bitcoin price is more important.  Price volatility makes Bitcoin interesting, it also get the attention of huge company not because of its purpose but because there is profit to be earned.  I believe time will come that the purpose will weigh more than the price of Bitcoin but as of now, I believe almost everyone consider the price of Bitcoin to be the most important.
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Going with Satoshi's vision, we have bitcoin that can be used without boundaries but there are other problems here, because that bitcoin cannot be easily spent for the article that you might need - at that point fiat currencies become more useful. So with that immediately comes in the question of BTC<>Fiat conversions. Eventually that market grew and became a speculative market.

1BTC is always 1BTC though, how much someone is willing to spend to buy/sell it changes with time depending on the demand/supply.

The purpose of bitcoin is still the same, but making a merchant accept that and making them use a bitcoin based payment system is a hell of a big job. Till then we can only rely on the P2P bitcoin transfers to buy/sell goods and not purchases directly with crypto.
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The fact is Bitcoin perform a dual purpose as most time Bitcoin peer-to-peer payment is not always available offline and for security reasons, the most peer-to-peer transaction is done through the use of an exchange.
So Bitcoin can not exist without the banking system and exchange, and again Bitcoin price is one of the most important reasons why people adopt Bitcoin and that is why most people take Bitcoin as an investment other than a currency.
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The Satoshi idea for Bitcoin creation is still very much active which is, Bitcoin being an alternative to fiat currency since the third-party system has so many limitations and paper money is subject to inflation, and Bitcoin as peer-to-peer electronic cash has performed that purpose
Bitcoin was created in 2009 after the Goldman Sachs collapse and the global financial recession. It takes more than 13 years for Bitcoin to have similar chance to shine brightly when the world is in another recession. When fear is gone, mind is calm again, people will realize that they should hold their Bitcoin or buy more, accumulate more, not shake weak hands as they will regret a lot later.

Inflation, financial recession are perfect opportunities for Bitcoin to show its strength and attraction from finite total supply and technololigcal ability to allow people have and control their own banks.

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even though Bitcoin is also an asset, which price has to lead to wider adoption since most of Bitcoin holders are doing so with the expectation of it price rising due to Bitcoin volatility we still can't say Bitcoin price has become the sole organ of Bitcoin existence.
Bitcoin won't be used if it does not have good usabilities which are built by top-notch technology. If it is not used by people, it should have no value. No value means no price on market as nobody is ready to trad, buy or invest in it.
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