Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? - page 34.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on September 08, 2023, 10:07:58 AM

Your first point of course is that people gamble to increase their amount of money. There are many gamblers who have won and now they own crores of money yet they gamble but there may be addiction or fun to them. Actually gambling is an addiction that will keep calling you because you have earned a lot of money from gambling in the past.

Actually the middle class gamble more because they have some wealth so they want to increase the amount of that wealth and they get addicted to gambling because of sudden riches.

I'm sure most of the rich and upper middle class people are business people so the gambling they do is only for fun and not to multiply their money, but if there is a possibility, it could be that he is a rich child who inherited his parents' wealth so he spent their parents' money on gambling hoping to double their money but became bankrupt, to be honest I have never heard of many names of people who were successful because of gambling unless they collaborated with the casino itself.

I always see that most of the gamblers who play are of lower middle class status where they always hope to beat the dealer and get a big win so they can get a lot of money and make them rich, maybe there are only a few percent who are lucky because their bets become rich, so for rich people they have enough money, it doesn't seem like they gamble much to make money except for those who have lower middle class status they don't have enough money so they take the route of gambling to make them rich. Grin

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Their is nobody today that will tell you that one of the reasons why is in gambling is not to make money, the plan and the target of whosoever that is in gambling today is to make money in gambling is the mindset of the person is not that they are playing gambling to catch fun, why is like that, is that gambling people who playing gambling nowadays is the youths and any youths the mindset is in money, so some people also participate in gambling because they want a daily bread to keep their life sustain

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Quote from: GigaBit on September 08, 2023, 11:25:36 AM

Quote from: Jocuserious on September 08, 2023, 10:07:58 AM

Your first point of course is that people gamble to increase their amount of money. There are many gamblers who have won and now they own crores of money yet they gamble but there may be addiction or fun to them. Actually gambling is an addiction that will keep calling you because you have earned a lot of money from gambling in the past.

Actually the middle class gamble more because they have some wealth so they want to increase the amount of that wealth and they get addicted to gambling because of sudden riches.

The poor are more prone to gambling than the rich. Because they think how they can get rich quick. As there is no get-rich-quick platform. So gambling is seen by many poor and middle class people as a way to get rich. The middle class and lower middle class are more interested in getting rich than others. It is easy to find such behavior in those people. There are lots of rich people who lose but do not develop negative tendencies. They just enjoy gambling. Whether you have money or not those who enjoy gambling never think different way.

I agree with that that people with lower middle class economies are more vulnerable to becoming gamblers or even addicted because they have the assumption or goal of getting rich from gambling but it does not rule out the possibility that people with more wealth can easily become gambling addicts because of the fun which can be obtained and can multiply the money staked in large amounts.

Everyone has a percentage chance of becoming a gambler and unfortunately not many are able to have control over every gambling activity whether they are poor levels of society or even those with more wealth.

So far many people think that rich people gamble just for fun but if you look at what actually happens almost the majority of rich people gamble with the aim of winning bigger and being able to be proud or get satisfaction because they managed to win big.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on September 08, 2023, 10:07:58 AM

Your first point of course is that people gamble to increase their amount of money. There are many gamblers who have won and now they own crores of money yet they gamble but there may be addiction or fun to them. Actually gambling is an addiction that will keep calling you because you have earned a lot of money from gambling in the past.

Actually the middle class gamble more because they have some wealth so they want to increase the amount of that wealth and they get addicted to gambling because of sudden riches.

We don't need to gamble because we don't have money. We need to understand what we want to avoid unnecessary pressure because gambling is all about mind and what we really want from it. There are many big men that gamble for the fund and also in mind if making money. There are some gambling that we will not want to miss the win because it might have a cost on us. Those who gamble when they don't have money are mostly desperate and want to win by all means.

If you don't have enough money it's better to stop gambling because if it becomes an addiction it doesn't take long for the to bankrupt the wealth. In the case of the rich it does not affect them because they have a lot of money the rich enjoy entertainment but it never becomes their main topic of conversation. The fact that the middle class is easily addicted to entertainment puts them at greater risk. This is why I think I have to keep myself under control don't get desperate to win you should bet while maintaining your ability.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on September 08, 2023, 10:07:58 AM

Your first point of course is that people gamble to increase their amount of money. There are many gamblers who have won and now they own crores of money yet they gamble but there may be addiction or fun to them. Actually gambling is an addiction that will keep calling you because you have earned a lot of money from gambling in the past.

Actually the middle class gamble more because they have some wealth so they want to increase the amount of that wealth and they get addicted to gambling because of sudden riches.

We don't need to gamble because we don't have money. We need to understand what we want to avoid unnecessary pressure because gambling is all about mind and what we really want from it. There are many big men that gamble for the fund and also in mind if making money. There are some gambling that we will not want to miss the win because it might have a cost on us. Those who gamble when they don't have money are mostly desperate and want to win by all means.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on September 08, 2023, 10:07:58 AM

Your first point of course is that people gamble to increase their amount of money. There are many gamblers who have won and now they own crores of money yet they gamble but there may be addiction or fun to them. Actually gambling is an addiction that will keep calling you because you have earned a lot of money from gambling in the past.

Actually the middle class gamble more because they have some wealth so they want to increase the amount of that wealth and they get addicted to gambling because of sudden riches.

The poor are more prone to gambling than the rich. Because they think how they can get rich quick. As there is no get-rich-quick platform. So gambling is seen by many poor and middle class people as a way to get rich. The middle class and lower middle class are more interested in getting rich than others. It is easy to find such behavior in those people. There are lots of rich people who lose but do not develop negative tendencies. They just enjoy gambling. Whether you have money or not those who enjoy gambling never think different way.

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Quote from: Jocuserious on September 08, 2023, 10:07:58 AM

Your first point of course is that people gamble to increase their amount of money. There are many gamblers who have won and now they own crores of money yet they gamble but there may be addiction or fun to them. Actually gambling is an addiction that will keep calling you because you have earned a lot of money from gambling in the past.

Actually the middle class gamble more because they have some wealth so they want to increase the amount of that wealth and they get addicted to gambling because of sudden riches.

In fact, there are more lower middle class people who gamble than the elite, because they have the idea that gambling can make a lot of money quickly, which they wouldn't get by working normally, but why are there more lower middle class people who Gambling is quite understandable, because people like that are more numerous than the rich, and also because they seem to experience despair due to difficulties in meeting their living needs.
While the rich gamble more for pleasure, that's why cruise ship tourism provides casinos and gambling places in the world, it also provides luxury hotels that only the rich can reach.
So there is a stark difference between the two groups, the poor gamble to earn while the rich gamble to spend what they have achieved, but earning in gambling is not an easy thing, especially if someone is experiencing money difficulties and gambling because they want to earn money is a mistake, because of the uncertainty in gambling, other than fun if the goal is just for fun.

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Your first point of course is that people gamble to increase their amount of money. There are many gamblers who have won and now they own crores of money yet they gamble but there may be addiction or fun to them. Actually gambling is an addiction that will keep calling you because you have earned a lot of money from gambling in the past.

Actually the middle class gamble more because they have some wealth so they want to increase the amount of that wealth and they get addicted to gambling because of sudden riches.

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Quote from: summonerrk on September 08, 2023, 06:58:55 AM

I believe that it is necessary to build logic according to Maslow's pyramid - if a person is provided with food, security and self-expression, then he will look for entertainment for the soul and brain, I mean to look for adrenaline, as mentioned in the previous post. While it is the poor who will only think about the result in the form of winning money in order to correct their poor monetary situation.

Maslow's pyramid is a concept of what individuals should achieve in sequence, following an hierarchy, to achieve balance, organical homeostasis, so they can finally start drawing their road to self-realization, which is the top of the pyramid, once all other needs are already fulfilled.

However, what we see for real are individuals who aren't able to fulfill basic levels of their pyramids. They don't have security and stability, they don't have love and belonging, their self-esteem is weak. So they appeal to disfunctional practices as a mean to escape from their harsh reality.

One of these escapes consist in gambling addiction. The disfunctional pleasure they have when gambling without limits and control works for them as a brief relief from the pain and frustration of daily life, especially when we take the financial aspect into consideration.

Since they are frustrated for being broken (respective to the second tier of Maslow's pyramid), gambling becomes the escape because it theoretically can make them rich.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on September 08, 2023, 09:42:27 AM

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I think that's not really the case. If a person doesn't have enough money, he can't afford to gamble. Gambling is played only with money that is willing to lose. At least if the gambler is aware of this, he is clearly familiar with the theory of gambling and well represents the chances of a fateful win. If a gambler comes to the casino to make money, then he either does not understand that gambling is not work, or has a gambling addiction, which does not allow him to see beyond his own nose.

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Quote from: trendcoin on September 08, 2023, 07:49:03 AM

Since there is no scientific research on this subject or I am not aware of any such research, my answer cannot go beyond my personal experience and cannot form an objective opinion. However, I don't think I gamble in order to get the money I need. If my goal was to make more money, I would make coupons with a high appetite for risk. When I gamble, I bet on single matches that I think are very solid, which means that I don't gamble in order to make the money I need, but only to take advantage of an opportunity. If that opportunity was a stone's throw to turn a bird in a tree into dinner, I'd do that too.

There is no research that proves that but as I see in my place the majority who gamble are those who have insufficient money and I ask them why. They answered that they were hoping to get lucky and become rich. They believe that winning from gambling is the shortcut to becoming rich or at least having huge money from spending a small amount because they see some people have it. Yet, they never notice that they are spending a lot of money but never win big at least once.

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Quote from: masulum on September 05, 2023, 12:33:41 PM

Quote from: Gheka on September 05, 2023, 08:58:34 AM

I'm not sure about this but from an observer's perspective, quite a few people are on a tight budget, their greed and bigotry towards finance and money is immense, that's the first thing I noticed from them. Plus, the second thing I realized, they are people who are extremely afraid of loss, for people with average and high finances, they have a lot of time and opportunity to start recovering from the loss. While people at a low financial level, their chances of making a comeback are extremely small in gambling, as soon as they lose at the first time, their psychology is broken.

Indeed, the number is smaller than those who have unlimited finances, but those who are poor also gamble a lot. One of the reasons, and I have also read this from studies, is that they try to get rich by gambling. So, this has become commonplace for someone when deciding to gamble. It doesn't matter whether he is rich or poor. Limited finances will certainly make it difficult for poor people to gamble again. But when they have a money, some of them will return to gambling. that's why I said, as long as he can still control it, it shouldn't be a problem. but the thought of getting rich instantly, greed as you mentioned, will be a trap for them.

Against the general belief that the purpose of gambling is for entertainment. There are many people whose aim of gambling is to escape poverty. This set of people whose aim of involving in gambling is to be rich likely end up being poor the more. This is because their initial capital of investment are always small and they do not take cognizance of losses while they make the bets. They only anticipate for good and in the end. It doesn't come that way. It is only a few that gamble's for fun. And those people that does gambling for fun already has good source of income to keep them going and give their families a sttable life. So in order to gamble only for fun, you should have a good source of income.

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Since there is no scientific research on this subject or I am not aware of any such research, my answer cannot go beyond my personal experience and cannot form an objective opinion. However, I don't think I gamble in order to get the money I need. If my goal was to make more money, I would make coupons with a high appetite for risk. When I gamble, I bet on single matches that I think are very solid, which means that I don't gamble in order to make the money I need, but only to take advantage of an opportunity. If that opportunity was a stone's throw to turn a bird in a tree into dinner, I'd do that too. No, that's not it, I'm just exaggerating a bit. :))) I'm not a vegetarian, but hunting a bird is not for me. :) I am a person cut off from nature, shaped by city life. I just wanted to explain why I gamble with an exaggerated example... :)

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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

I used to have a friend who worked as a croupier in a small casino. She recounted many different situations that occur in casinos, but in general, all of them happened to people with money, businessmen and production managers. In general, people who can afford to lose a couple thousand dollars every month. Therefore, I think that those who have money mostly go to the casino in order to get more, to play with luck and experience adrenaline. There are no poor people there, they are all working, trying to ensure their existence, they are not up to adrenaline.

There could be a study of this or just a survey whether the rich gamble to make more or just enjoy adrenaline. To me the rich gambles more with precision to make money not with luck. Their gamble is to secure more money which could lie to investing and a sure way to make money than relying on luck. One way the rich gambles with security in mind is betting on odds like 1.10.

Its the gambler with lesser funds who are more prone to riskier bets in the hopes to hit the biggie.

I understand the logic of your opinion, but how can reducing the coefficient make their game safe? I believe that no matter what odds you put, the results of your defeats and losses will still tend to be 50-50 (when betting on the same odds). It's just that with coefficients like 1.1, it won't be so fast.

I believe that it is necessary to build logic according to Maslow's pyramid - if a person is provided with food, security and self-expression, then he will look for entertainment for the soul and brain, I mean to look for adrenaline, as mentioned in the previous post. While it is the poor who will only think about the result in the form of winning money in order to correct their poor monetary situation.

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Quote from: Taskford on September 07, 2023, 07:30:12 AM

It maybe not good decision to gamble when we don't have enough money since we know the consequences on this actions since most likely we will fail then might get broke. But we cannot take out the hope of other that it can change their lives especially by betting on lottery where they take chance to became an instant millionaire if they are lucky to hit the jackpot prize. In that case I also think that this is fine as long as they don't spend all their money and use a little amount only just to have chance to win.

There is nothing wrong with responsible gambling and the lottery is one of the cheapest and more simple games you can play, however when someone sees the lottery as their literal ticket out of poverty that is when there can be a huge problem, as the chances they will become successful are the lowest of all the games that exist and the house edge is also at its highest, however someone desperate enough to change their fate will probably disregard those factors and use all the money they can to play the lottery.

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Nobody have sufficient money and that is why we all are into gambling. We want to make money money from it so that we can earn more and take care of our bills. Even the most richest man in the world want to earn more money that is why even the average man need to work smart to earn money whether in there various busy or going into gambling to make bet and predictions that could lead into money. There are people that had lost there jobs and have no where to earn money than to vividly go into gambling to test there luck of making there own profits.

We don't need to gamble, especially if we don't have enough money, but usually, people will gamble for that reason, just to play gambling games and not to earn money. But they gamble because they want a lot of money, especially since gambling tempts many people to try it. The richest people gamble just for fun because they already know that too much gambling can make them forget to do other things. And it is true that some people have lost their jobs because they cannot focus on work and use their family money to gamble. And if there are still people who gamble because they hope to make money from gambling, they should erase their desire and look for other, more promising sources of income.

It maybe not good decision to gamble when we don't have enough money since we know the consequences on this actions since most likely we will fail then might get broke. But we cannot take out the hope of other that it can change their lives especially by betting on lottery where they take chance to became an instant millionaire if they are lucky to hit the jackpot prize. In that case I also think that this is fine as long as they don't spend all their money and use a little amount only just to have chance to win.

It might be not a good idea for all of us, however, for most of us this is the only option or knowledge we have to quickly earn money. Even though this is too risky with having insufficient money, the higher risk of losing money instead of making money, we have nothing to do to those people who do not want to invest their time in learning to make money the better way.

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Nobody have sufficient money and that is why we all are into gambling. We want to make money money from it so that we can earn more and take care of our bills. Even the most richest man in the world want to earn more money that is why even the average man need to work smart to earn money whether in there various busy or going into gambling to make bet and predictions that could lead into money. There are people that had lost there jobs and have no where to earn money than to vividly go into gambling to test there luck of making there own profits.

We don't need to gamble, especially if we don't have enough money, but usually, people will gamble for that reason, just to play gambling games and not to earn money. But they gamble because they want a lot of money, especially since gambling tempts many people to try it. The richest people gamble just for fun because they already know that too much gambling can make them forget to do other things. And it is true that some people have lost their jobs because they cannot focus on work and use their family money to gamble. And if there are still people who gamble because they hope to make money from gambling, they should erase their desire and look for other, more promising sources of income.

It maybe not good decision to gamble when we don't have enough money since we know the consequences on this actions since most likely we will fail then might get broke. But we cannot take out the hope of other that it can change their lives especially by betting on lottery where they take chance to became an instant millionaire if they are lucky to hit the jackpot prize. In that case I also think that this is fine as long as they don't spend all their money and use a little amount only just to have chance to win.

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Quote from: Wakate on September 07, 2023, 05:05:34 AM

Nobody have sufficient money and that is why we all are into gambling. We want to make money money from it so that we can earn more and take care of our bills. Even the most richest man in the world want to earn more money that is why even the average man need to work smart to earn money whether in there various busy or going into gambling to make bet and predictions that could lead into money. There are people that had lost there jobs and have no where to earn money than to vividly go into gambling to test there luck of making there own profits.

We don't need to gamble, especially if we don't have enough money, but usually, people will gamble for that reason, just to play gambling games and not to earn money. But they gamble because they want a lot of money, especially since gambling tempts many people to try it. The richest people gamble just for fun because they already know that too much gambling can make them forget to do other things. And it is true that some people have lost their jobs because they cannot focus on work and use their family money to gamble. And if there are still people who gamble because they hope to make money from gambling, they should erase their desire and look for other, more promising sources of income.

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Quote from: masulum on September 05, 2023, 12:33:41 PM

Quote from: Gheka on September 05, 2023, 08:58:34 AM

I'm not sure about this but from an observer's perspective, quite a few people are on a tight budget, their greed and bigotry towards finance and money is immense, that's the first thing I noticed from them. Plus, the second thing I realized, they are people who are extremely afraid of loss, for people with average and high finances, they have a lot of time and opportunity to start recovering from the loss. While people at a low financial level, their chances of making a comeback are extremely small in gambling, as soon as they lose at the first time, their psychology is broken.

Indeed, the number is smaller than those who have unlimited finances, but those who are poor also gamble a lot. One of the reasons, and I have also read this from studies, is that they try to get rich by gambling. So, this has become commonplace for someone when deciding to gamble. It doesn't matter whether he is rich or poor. Limited finances will certainly make it difficult for poor people to gamble again. But when they have a money, some of them will return to gambling. that's why I said, as long as he can still control it, it shouldn't be a problem. but the thought of getting rich instantly, greed as you mentioned, will be a trap for them.

Nobody have sufficient money and that is why we all are into gambling. We want to make money money from it so that we can earn more and take care of our bills. Even the most richest man in the world want to earn more money that is why even the average man need to work smart to earn money whether in there various busy or going into gambling to make bet and predictions that could lead into money. There are people that had lost there jobs and have no where to earn money than to vividly go into gambling to test there luck of making there own profits.

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I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

I used to have a friend who worked as a croupier in a small casino. She recounted many different situations that occur in casinos, but in general, all of them happened to people with money, businessmen and production managers. In general, people who can afford to lose a couple thousand dollars every month. Therefore, I think that those who have money mostly go to the casino in order to get more, to play with luck and experience adrenaline. There are no poor people there, they are all working, trying to ensure their existence, they are not up to adrenaline.

There could be a study of this or just a survey whether the rich gamble to make more or just enjoy adrenaline. To me the rich gambles more with precision to make money not with luck. Their gamble is to secure more money which could lie to investing and a sure way to make money than relying on luck. One way the rich gambles with security in mind is betting on odds like 1.10.

Its the gambler with lesser funds who are more prone to riskier bets in the hopes to hit the biggie.

Which way else to gamble that you don't have to depend on luck @bittraffic. No matter how we try to protect ourselves from lose in the game we are betting by even going for smaller odds, they are still at risk of loss. If the rich guys bet with a huge amount of money for a more easier winning game, they sometimes lose. I have witnessed that severally. Example, a guy lost $1,000 two consecutive times on a single bet he played and not until the third time that he won, so he is still chasing his $1,000 back. Betting is luck no matter how we try to reduce our risk.

That is obvious.If betting were not luck and only skill you would have seen casinos closing up and not opening up with the speed that we see new casinos are showing themselves trying to catch their market share.I agree that chances are extremely low when you play with the lowest bet as when you play 1000 dollars with 0.10 dollar as a bet it takes a whole lot of time for you to lose that money and even the slot provider will be bored and offer you some catches,it will usually give you some big wins with that amount of bet and you will raise the bet and it is here where the bad things happen,you lose money very fast as soon as you raise your bet.

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