Topic: Do you hate muslems? - page 44. (Read 213939 times)

If no? Well, because there's no need of hating no one. I think fanatic's are always the problem to everything: Music, art, politics, etc. (extermist people).

"Not all muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslims". I do not hate muslims, cuz i believe there are a lot of good people between them, but I can't trust in them, because of all that terroristic shit

Human beings have become so self-centered to the extend that what they all think about is themselves. They consider the person next to them as an enemy. If the person is of a different race, religion or even gender, people don't feel comfortable to co-exist with them. We have a few elements who might be going against the norms of their groups, i.e. religion, race or gender, but this does not mean everybody in that group is of a similar character. Therefore, despite the fact that a few people professing to be Muslims have been doing weird actions, i don't think this is representative of the entire populace of Islam. Therefore, this is just stereotyping and there is nothing like everybody hates Muslims.

Is this the tolerance the reason why they are fighting against all the other religions? Muslims are fighting Jews, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, Shintoists, Atheists, Animists, Bahais, Shamanists, and all the other world religions. So there can be only two conclusions. Either there is something wrong with Islam, or there is something wrong with all the other religions.

No.Let us not generalize. Not because they are Muslims, they are all terrorists. There are terrorists composed of Christians too. They become bad people because of their greediness to have the power to rule the world which is and hopefuly wont ever happen. Its not about religion, its about selfishness and wrong perspective in life. Better show love not hatred. Hating people will just cause much more trouble.

No, that is a good religion which in it teaches tolerance with other religions. For example in Indonesia, it's have many religion on there but muslims can coexist with other religions and peace

I do not hate muslims. Why do I?

Yes, I read what you wrote, and I understand your challenge.

This kaffir seems to recollect a moment when Mr. Jesus got a bit riled up, and threw the merchants out of the temple. In modern language, he used physical force and assaulted them. Not totally without violence, right?

As an atheist, but one who does understand these concepts, I can assure you that some fundamentalist Christians read too much and too literally the wild rant called "Revelations." That section can be disregarded, frankly.

did you even read what i wrote you can not find cruelty in the SOURCE of Islam namely the HOLY QURAN .......

all the westerners you mentioned are reading the Quran with Hadiths , they think without hadits the Quran is not complete ( not they were saying this , but indirect they beleave this). they most of the time citating from the Hadiths.



btw the Christianety are worng also with judgement day , because they saying Jesus will come and will fight the at the Armagaddon..... , Jesus is Love he will never fight......

I am not so sure about this. You will find that Westerners, discussing in these threads, almost always cite from the Koran and not the Hadiths. In doing this they certainly can show an evil and cruel side to Islam. Might it be that  you simply pick verses and sections that are more humanistic?

Note that Christians have an accepted practice of doing this, routinely ignoring nonsensical cruel sections of the Old Testament. However Christians have clear guidance, in that they have the Old, and the New testaments.

the cruelty is not from the Quran , its from the Hadiths, and i find it pity that alot of Muslims are not reading the Quran properly , as is say before they prefer to listen to : Sholars , Imams ect...

next are my OWN OPINION HOW I READ THE QURAN

funny thing is :
ask an Muslim what is your source : they will answer the Holy Quran .....and if you ask how to become an Muslim they will say you must beleave and do the 5 pilars of Islam:
1   Shahada: Faith
2   Salat: Prayer- 5 times a day
3   Zakāt: Charity
4   Sawm: Fasting
5   Hajj: Pilgrimage to Mecca

I read the Quran and i cant find the whole 5 pilars of Islam.....
the pilars i found is ( i put the numbers in bold, orginaly there are no numbers) :
Believed the Messenger in what was revealed to him from his Lord and the believers. 1* All believed in Allah, and 2* His Angels, and 3* His Books, and 4* His Messengers. "Not we make distinction between any of His And they said, "We heard and we obeyed. (Grant) us Your forgiveness our Lord, and to You (is) the return." Quran 2:285

- there is no mentioned of 5 day riyual pray ! but Quran tells you the pray .... so how do you pray ..... do we need some exercise to pray ?? no , you know what Qurans says how to pray an example :
Then when you (have) finished the prayer, then remember Allah standing and sitting and (lying) on your sides. But when you are secure then establish the (regular) prayer. Indeed, the prayer is on the believers prescribed (at) fixed times. Quran 4:103

everybodies has own praying ritual , praying is in being in contact with God / Allah , i dont have to doing some yoga orso to get in contact.  you what the Quran says Also :
And if whatever (is) in the earth of (the) trees (were) pens and the sea, (to) add to it after it seven seas, not would be exhausted (the) Words (of) Allah. Indeed, Allah (is) All-Mighty, All-Wise.Quran 31:27

with other words, there not much rules , the rules in the Quran is enough to follow....

in most of the Muslim countries , it is forbidden to change your Islam religion to an other religion even the penalty is death , but what says the Quran about this
- (There is) no compulsion in the religion..... Quran 2:256

so , do they really Follow the Quran ?

there is NOT ONE VERSES about stoning  penalty in the Quran ...... but if you look on the Islamic countries , the penalty for adultry is stoning till death ?
 
are they following the Quran ?


In the Quran it say that the profet is gonna say ( on the day of judgement) :
"And said the Messenger, "O my Lord! Indeed, my people took this the Quran (as) a forsaken thing." Quran 25:30

you know what this mean ......  Quran will be Abondoned by so called muslims ( like the other books).


My advice to all Muslims Who are reading this ......

Throw the Hadiths away , there is no good from it , read the Holy Quran in your own Language , try to learn the language of the Quran this better, every body who is willing to learn can learn it ( in generally ).  ive got links how to learn (old) arabic, how to imply the gramma .....


hadiths make this religion evil, Hadits made our beloved prophet an :
- warlord
- sexmaniac
- pedophile
- rude....
- ect...

and what says the Quran about our beloved prophet ,
Certainly, is for you in (the) Messenger (of) Allah an excellent example for (one) who has hope (in) Allah and the Day the Last, and remembers Allah much. Quran 33:21


I am not trying to convert you all to Islam, but i get mad about some people who thinks they know what it is being a Muslim ( even some muslims dont know what it is)...... and sinds i reject the hadith i feel strong , i cant find almost all answer of my question in the Quran, no need for other books .....

btw I AM NOT A SHOLAR ORSO, Just a guy who re-discovered his faith with trowing the hadiths away and began read the Quran properly...

It's not that "I want to know more" but I wanted example of Muslim not being cruel/violent. You've done a nice job of showing how a focus on certain passages of the Koran instructs on in such behavior.

Takiyya used to work, thanks to media censorship, political correctness and lack of public awareness. But with the spread of social media and internet, what happening in one part of the world is no longer hidden from the rest.

I am a Muslim my ONLY source is the Quran .........
what tells Quran how to be Good Muslim :

1: Do not be rude in speech-  Quran 3:159
2: Restrain Anger - Quran 3:134
3: Be good to others -  Quran 4:36
4: Do not be arrogant - Quran 7:13
5: Speak to people mildly - Quran 20:44
6: Do not ridicule one another - Quran 49:11
7: Do not say a word of disrespect to your parents - Quran 17:23
8: Do not follow anyone blindly - Quran 2:170
9: Do not engage in bribery - Quran 2:188
10: Do not be miserly - Quran 4:37
11: Do not engage in bribery - Quran 2:188
12: Do not break promises - Quran 2:177

there are more, if you want to know more https://themuslimvibe.com/featured/59-examples-of-islamic-etiquette-in-the-holy-quran

Let the Muslims refute this, if they can. Because when they do it falsely, with Takiyya, it seems to be quickly discovered on this forum.

If we compare most of the most famous religions of the world, then it turns out that Muslims with their Islam are very cruel.
Which one can give an example when time people kill other people. I have not seen all the Muslims, but it seems to me that this is everyone's fault.

What is muslems first? Did you try to say muslims ?

Really did not understand.

Why sould i do..?
You can't blame on any religion or belief. I strongly believe that, Every religion shows us the perfect way of Life and suggest that how we should behave with people, also explain that, what should we do in our life and what will be the destination of us. But in recent years, some people did many sin with the name of religion, they're misinterpreting the actual meaning or belief. So you should not raise your fingers to the religion.

Law is good, but you forget about the responsibilities. The obligation of each person not to violate the laws. The Muslims have appropriated the right to judge people just because they profess another religion. Isn't that worthy of hatred.

you should be afraid of all type of extremists ...i love muslims and the jews too, my gf is jew haha