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Topic: Do you have any Good strategy to improved martin fail system Playing Dice Game? - page 2. (Read 1815 times)

legendary
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Hi guys as i continue my journey to seek more ways to win with the house playing dice game, I'm just curious maybe you have a good techniques using this old method as we all know that in a long term run it will only results into a big loss, I personally experience it so seeking for more insight maybe you guys add some more or some tweaks and work for you, I hope you can share it here guys. thanks in advance.

in my experience your success in martingale method is only depending on size of your bankroll and obviously the size of the bet you are starting with.

you can also find out about the highest losing streak record (which i think it is about 25-30 reds in a row on 2x) so that you can make decisions.

but in the end there is no guarantee that you don't see a 31 red in a row or more.
legendary
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Well I always use Martingale system when playing on dice, and so far I have never encountered a 10 straight lose (the longest losing streak I have is 7). Most of the time it is a fail, but if you have a beefy bankroll, it is totally worth it and may help you get some nice profits.
hero member
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just for sharing i went to 17 loses playing dice with yobit keep doubling the amount of my bet thinking that because i have good initial capital martin fail would not eat me up, but 17 straight lose make me stop and surrender before it burned everything in my wallet.
legendary
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I came up with a strategy which has proved to be very successful for both myself and a number of people who have commented on the forum.

Here is the OP Thread:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14464197

Enjoy.

In the post you say: "Its bet on a series of 12 total possible red/losses at 2.00X" Actually to expect 12 reds in a row betting with 50% winning chance is not enough. Many times I've had more that 12 losses in a row, my "all time high" so far 16.
hero member
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good point so that's why i first bet 30% in the first try if wins i will quit right away and if lose i will only stake 50 % not going all in
so being not that greedy will still the best strategy to do. quit until you are still ahead don't let your greediness to eat you up.
SO this is like all about luck mate, sorry, but i am doing the sure bets in sports betting, arb betting. hehe..  Cool Cool Cool
-cheers-
sure betting? wow is thats an strategy too or you have fixed bet? i think theres no surebet if theres no fixing that happenings, for OP martin fails always win you in the short time so better be wiser and stay away every time you already have the chance.
hero member
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good point so that's why i first bet 30% in the first try if wins i will quit right away and if lose i will only stake 50 % not going all in
so being not that greedy will still the best strategy to do. quit until you are still ahead don't let your greediness to eat you up.
SO this is like all about luck mate, sorry, but i am doing the sure bets in sports betting, arb betting. hehe..  Cool Cool Cool
-cheers-
hero member
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good point so that's why i first bet 30% in the first try if wins i will quit right away and if lose i will only stake 50 % not going all in
so being not that greedy will still the best strategy to do. quit until you are still ahead don't let your greediness to eat you up.
hero member
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The best strategy to win with Martingale is to stop playing as soon as possible.  The longer you play the more likely you will hit a loosing streak, and completely loose your bankroll.  The key is to not be greedy and get out while you are ahead.  If you make your bet your first roll, then quit right away.  As soon as you make a win, quit.  That is the only strategy I can think of.
hero member
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Sorry mate if i will say this, but unfortunately, no strategies work, it only works in short term, but in long term, HE affects you and you will lose it all, i think better to set a goal that is 10% of your bankroll only, and stop after that. Then try to multiply it in poker or sports betting.
just to give some update i did some working for a short term dice game, try betting 30% of your actual capital in the first bet if wins quit, if lose try 10% if lose quit if win double, don't allow your capital to totally burned out just spend 50% then comeback another day, not recommending i just sharing be at least wins 30%  and quit.
hero member
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Sorry mate if i will say this, but unfortunately, no strategies work, it only works in short term, but in long term, HE affects you and you will lose it all, i think better to set a goal that is 10% of your bankroll only, and stop after that. Then try to multiply it in poker or sports betting.
copper member
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Any kiddie here offering strategies for such thing is just something it will not work in the long run and even in the short run(maybe in short run if you are lucky but not because of the strategy). When playing dice like OP is asking to beat the house in a game of chance this is totally impossible because every casino has a house edge and no matter how small it is in the long run it will make itself present and make you lose money. Best thing to do if you have money to burn playing dice is playing sportsbook and trying martingale there, chances are higher to win there rather than here but martingale has not been proved as a winning strategy so far and is considered as a failed one by many here.
newbie
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legendary
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Hi guys as i continue my journey to seek more ways to win with the house playing dice game, I'm just curious maybe you have a good techniques using this old method as we all know that in a long term run it will only results into a big loss, I personally experience it so seeking for more insight maybe you guys add some more or some tweaks and work for you, I hope you can share it here guys. thanks in advance.

you can't really change anything about martingale strategy in dice games. it is as good as it gets. you can change your multiplier and play around with the minimum amount of bet but in the end it will lead to a big losing streak that empty your pocket so make your pocket bankroll bigger.
newbie
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full member
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Got to
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sign up for a new Account and fund it with a few coins

go to
- Bet on the House
-kick back and watch your money grow

Your deposit calculates the %payout you receive

For example
I signed up at 9 pm and deposited 0.04 BTC and I already made 300 Satoshis so far , its 9.20pm
not much but hey small satoshis add up aswell

try it out you cant risk anything, you can also stop your investment at any time

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Good Luck

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Good Luck
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Is this the only site that let you bet on the house? This is a good idea and I'm pretty sure this site will get popular for it's unique way of betting. I will try this out and will see how things goes.
hero member
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You should know by now that there is no strategy to beat the house edge. The longer you play the more the chances are to bust since you are always playing against the odds.
hero member
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Merit: 520
You coul martingale and instead of doubling up you could make the same bet again to try break even and that way if you lose you still get another try to break even.
i think being familiar with the rotation of results can make your martin fails work while using the system keep checking your bet and count the numbers of losses that you get and wait until that rotation show up again, it will works with some luck mate. and stop if you already earn at least 20% of your actual capital.
hero member
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You coul martingale and instead of doubling up you could make the same bet again to try break even and that way if you lose you still get another try to break even.
full member
Activity: 149
Merit: 101
I came up with a strategy which has proved to be very successful for both myself and a number of people who have commented on the forum.

Here is the OP Thread:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14464197

Enjoy.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
If you guys want to make money with Dice I recommend you following Method

Got to
www.satoshidice.com/?a=716192856

sign up for a new Account and fund it with a few coins

go to
- Bet on the House
-kick back and watch your money grow

Your deposit calculates the %payout you receive

For example
I signed up at 9 pm and deposited 0.04 BTC and I already made 300 Satoshis so far , its 9.20pm
not much but hey small satoshis add up aswell

try it out you cant risk anything, you can also stop your investment at any time

www.satoshidice.com/?a=716192856

Good Luck

Bet on the House

You have the opportunity to be part of Satoshi Dice's bankroll. The bankroll is the total amount that that players have placed to bet on the house and you are paid according to your percentage of the house's bankroll. Satoshi Dice uses a 1.9% house edge and backers get 50% of the house wins or losses. This means a 0.95% Expected Value (EV) that is shared by the backers. Affiliate earnings, Leader Board rewards and other rewards are not paid by the backers, and there are no additional fees. Minimum amount to bet on the house is 0.001 and there is no upper limit.

How Backer's Percentages of the Bankroll Are Determined

If the first backer deposits 10 bitcoins, he has 100% of the bankroll, and earns 1.9/2=0.95% of all earnings. Now suppose that players lose 10 coins while playing on the site. 50% of this is rewarded to the backers, and since there is only one backer he gets 5 coins added to his investment. The house's bankroll is now 15. Now another player invests another 5 coins, bringing the bankroll to 20. The original backer's 15 coins now make up 75% and the new backer's 5 coins make up 25% of the total bankroll. If now another 10 coins are lost by players, the first backer gets 7.5 coins and the second backer gets 2.5 coins, bringing their bankroll bets up to 22.5 and 7.5 coins respectively. At this stage, the first backer can withdraw his 22.5 bitcoins with a 12.5 profit and this would bring the second backer's percentage of the bankroll from 25% to 100%.

Satoshi Dice keeps the maximum profit a player can make on a bet to 1.9% of the bankroll (employing the Kelly criterion). This means that if the house loses money to lucky players, the maximum allowed profit made on new bets will shrink. If we assume that the players try to play with the highest possible EV, they will try to always place bets that has the maximum allowed profit when winning. If the same bet volume is maintained by bets with a lower maximum profit, it would have to be accomplished by a larger number of bets. This would increase the EV for the house because each single bet has a 1.019 EV for the house. The automatic adjustments of the maximum allowed bet profit also makes it impossible for players to win the entire bankroll.

Good Luck
www.satoshidice.com/?a=716192856
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