Do you like 0% house edge casino games?

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Quote from: dunfida on March 18, 2017, 08:39:59 AM

0% doesn't mean you would have more winning chance on your gambling plays the chances or risk is different but mostly chances are purely random even they claim they have 0% edge but I don't think they will last long for a certain casino because they wont make any profits on its players which means they will go bankrupt easily.

Actually you are wrong because no edge means that we indeed have more chances of winning.
Though that been said no edge does not guarantee anything in particular and the only outcome that is still expected is loss only. I have gambled a lot with players directly and yet I lot, so can't really disagree with you but actually with lower edge chances increases.

Its not actually more chances of winning lets say a house have a ordinary edge of 1% and they offer 0% house edge which means it only adds up 1% on your winning rate when you do play specially on 2x multiplier on dice. 1% chance might add up but it doesnt make big difference at all.

I don't think it matters in dice because it is random and with or without house edge you will still lose money, also lots of players are still using martingale but i don't think 0% house edge would make any difference. But what about slots? IMO 0% he means slot has either less symbols or more combinations, or both, of course with very low payouts.

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Quote from: coinplus on March 20, 2017, 10:29:45 AM

Quote from: dunfida on March 18, 2017, 08:39:59 AM

0% doesn't mean you would have more winning chance on your gambling plays the chances or risk is different but mostly chances are purely random even they claim they have 0% edge but I don't think they will last long for a certain casino because they wont make any profits on its players which means they will go bankrupt easily.

Actually you are wrong because no edge means that we indeed have more chances of winning.
Though that been said no edge does not guarantee anything in particular and the only outcome that is still expected is loss only. I have gambled a lot with players directly and yet I lot, so can't really disagree with you but actually with lower edge chances increases.

Its not actually more chances of winning lets say a house have a ordinary edge of 1% and they offer 0% house edge which means it only adds up 1% on your winning rate when you do play specially on 2x multiplier on dice. 1% chance might add up but it doesnt make big difference at all.

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yes i do like it but if suppose there and i quite doubt will get those feature from my favourite casinos because they really needed more than 0% for paying their operator which mean most of casinos online will avoid this feature and i don't think there will be popular casinos would available 0% house edge

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Quote from: dunfida on March 18, 2017, 08:39:59 AM

0% doesn't mean you would have more winning chance on your gambling plays the chances or risk is different but mostly chances are purely random even they claim they have 0% edge but I don't think they will last long for a certain casino because they wont make any profits on its players which means they will go bankrupt easily.

Actually you are wrong because no edge means that we indeed have more chances of winning.
Though that been said no edge does not guarantee anything in particular and the only outcome that is still expected is loss only. I have gambled a lot with players directly and yet I lot, so can't really disagree with you but actually with lower edge chances increases.

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Quote from: Ayers on March 17, 2017, 07:08:51 AM

Quote from: piloder on March 16, 2017, 12:55:11 PM

0% house edge can't guarantee you will win, actually luck is main factor for winning. I think this is still a concept and they haven't delivered anything yet, so it will be really exciting to have a first look at their games when they will release them.

One of the similar platform which have successfully completed their ICO was vdice which is truely an ethereum smart contract based dice site.

but it can guaranteed that you are not losing anything against the house, this mean that at least your win/loss ratio will stay the same in the long term, which is huge for me as i can remain in game playing and try to retrieve my loss if i had a bad run

Yeah indeed then no one can say that we will always loose in long term as in long term we would be expected to be neutral in terms of profit and loss. Yes, it is an advantage having no edge but that does not make us win all the time since gambling against a house with humongous bankroll is always dangerous.

I am not foreseeing any big differences we are going to enjoy due to zero house edge.

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Quote from: dunfida on March 18, 2017, 08:39:59 AM

0% doesn't mean you would have more winning chance on your gambling plays the chances or risk is different but mostly chances are purely random even they claim they have 0% edge but I don't think they will last long for a certain casino because they wont make any profits on its players which means they will go bankrupt easily.

but if a house do not have any house edge and give you more and more opportunities then how will they run the casio as most of the time they run their casino with the house edge.

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0% house edge poker games and tournaments would be great, but an operator has to make money from somewhere to pay its operating expenses.

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Quote from: machinek20 on March 18, 2017, 09:04:46 AM

It will be great to found out that there are casino with0% house edge, then the next question will be how the casino cover their expenses? Most of the casino gain profit because they got advantage from house edge, without the house edge then they will just rely on luck to gain profit and something not seem right if they only rely on luck to make their site to survive

this is what i am thinking too but if the casino is really apply 0% of house edge, maybe the casino will doing other way to gain profit that they don't get. maybe they will modify the games or other else just to make sure that they can get more profit. but i think its not good enough for casino to do that and they only can run the site in short term because they can not cover their expenses to continue the site. to maintain the site is actually need big money especially in gambling site so they really need profit to cover their expenses.

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Quote from: dunfida on March 18, 2017, 08:39:59 AM

0% doesn't mean you would have more winning chance on your gambling plays the chances or risk is different but mostly chances are purely random even they claim they have 0% edge but I don't think they will last long for a certain casino because they wont make any profits on its players which means they will go bankrupt easily.

Honestly, I haven't seen a gambling site that is successful now with 0% house edge, the one that is under ICO now is getting the confident of the investors. Let's see what will happen because after the project will be successfully launch, for now I will stick with a gambling site with house edge because they are normal and legitimate in the industry.

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It will be great to found out that there are casino with0% house edge, then the next question will be how the casino cover their expenses? Most of the casino gain profit because they got advantage from house edge, without the house edge then they will just rely on luck to gain profit and something not seem right if they only rely on luck to make their site to survive

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0% doesn't mean you would have more winning chance on your gambling plays the chances or risk is different but mostly chances are purely random even they claim they have 0% edge but I don't think they will last long for a certain casino because they wont make any profits on its players which means they will go bankrupt easily.

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Quote from: logisticalmother on March 18, 2017, 02:53:16 AM

Im not sure for house edge, it is just a bullshit. as so far house edge on casino around 1%-0% it still made players lost. and they say you have prove them on provably fair.

You can actually verify every results on provably fair casinos and house edge doesn't have anything to do with fairness of the game.

0% house edge is just their promotional line, there will be certain house edge for sure when they will launch their casino.

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0% House Edge. What a nice thought. But that's all it is.
I actually would rather play on a site I know that has HE, rather than with one I don't know that doesn't have HE.

With H.E., at least I'd know how and where the site would be taking money from. I'd have an idea of my chances then.
But if a site promises No H.E.? It'd just keep on bugging me how they'd be making money, where it'd be coming from, how much would it be, what my chances really are, or if I'd even be able to withdraw at all.

As for a site with no H.E. that's proven to be stable/viable? How do they prove it? It'd still be up to the individual whether they'd believe the 'proofs' or not.
And even if that's the case, there are still 'favorites'. Even now, gamblers don't necessarily choose a site because it's got a lower House Edge.

It's not the only factor to consider. 0.8% with your favorite site or 0% from a new one? Sure some might be tempted, doesn't mean the new site would be able to keep them.

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Quote from: shapeshiftscam on March 14, 2017, 06:03:28 AM

Do you like 0% house edge games? I think yes, it is most possible to profit money and pure luck and strategy game, no more pressure from houses any more.

Of course i like 0% house edge.
To be honest slots in topic from link you gave us looks the same as faucetgame.com. Even design and colors are the same. And from what i know in faucetgame slots you can't lose, so how will this casino make profit?

IMO it is just ICO promotion.

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Quote from: mOgliE on March 17, 2017, 12:07:50 PM

Huh, ok I would clearly advise you to never play on a site with 0% house edge...

Let's be clear, if there is 0%... You gonna get screwed. A casino will NOT risk money with 0% house edge. It means either they cheat or they will leave with the invested money...
What is... understandable is the short periods of 0% house edge, because it's a promotion event.
But anything regular is pure trap.

Uh well this is your idea of a 0% house edge. So where would we play? A Casino that has a house edge? If in case the casino with 0% house edge is proven to be stable, would you rather play on it? I do understand your idea but it is all assumption so there is a possibility that 0% house edge can function well. And we are not talking about scheme here, we are talking about pure 0% house edge. Of course with something like scheming is a different story.

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Im not sure for house edge, it is just a bullshit. as so far house edge on casino around 1%-0% it still made players lost. and they say you have prove them on provably fair.

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Quote from: shapeshiftscam on March 14, 2017, 06:03:28 AM

Edgeless casino offers such games with 0% house edge, they are running an ICO, it is invested with Ethereum tokens. For more information, you can read it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/edgeless-worlds-first-ethereum-based-crypto-casino-1718384

Do you like 0% house edge games? I think yes, it is most possible to profit money and pure luck and strategy game, no more pressure from houses any more.

Every gamblers are looking for this kind of Casinos, and yes, I like Casinos with lower House Edge especially with the 0% house edge, meaning there is a higher chance that you could win every bet that you are going to make compare to those Gambling sites which have higher percentage of house edge. But still, I am not suggesting anyone that we should try this gambling site because it is still a gambling site, and we all know that will going to happen in our bitcoin if we are going to use it in gambling.

I am just saying that this is a good gambling site because of their house edge, and not the good way to earn bitcoin.

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Quote from: shapeshiftscam on March 17, 2017, 04:01:30 AM

Ethereum has been pumped so hard, the largest pump ever I have seen, Edgeless now have more value in fiat, so they can develop more 0% house edge casino games on the Ethereum platform.

If the price of ethereum is pumped or dumped that does not change things really because casino would always want to have an edge over players and having no edge over players means that they are running casino in public interest rather than their own interests which make no sense.

Yeah, some coins that are new in market can make their dice sites where they offer no edge gambling and hence promoting their coins while gamblers get no edge fun.

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Quote from: Lionidas on March 16, 2017, 01:51:20 PM

How does 0% edge casino survive because what that means they lose to the players most of the time right?
Usually you see 2-3% house edge but 0% is confusing to players at these casinos that offer this.

It is a wrong understanding or myth that if a casino has 0% edge the it would loose because actually if a casino offers 0% edge means that they still have the equal chances as the gambler to win. It is like in-person gambling where we gamble against another player and even in that scenario we often end up loosing, so why would a casino with no edge loose ?

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Quote from: Ayers on March 17, 2017, 07:08:51 AM

Quote from: piloder on March 16, 2017, 12:55:11 PM

0% house edge can't guarantee you will win, actually luck is main factor for winning. I think this is still a concept and they haven't delivered anything yet, so it will be really exciting to have a first look at their games when they will release them.

One of the similar platform which have successfully completed their ICO was vdice which is truely an ethereum smart contract based dice site.

but it can guaranteed that you are not losing anything against the house, this mean that at least your win/loss ratio will stay the same in the long term, which is huge for me as i can remain in game playing and try to retrieve my loss if i had a bad run

Trying to retrieve your loss is never a good idea, not even when you're playing on a game with 0% house edge.
You'd need an almost infinite amount of money and see the results over a long period of time to be able to make your money back.

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