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legendary
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There's no need to be upset
August 31, 2023, 08:53:21 AM
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Why do you think your perception is wrong. Each of us playing the same game will get a completely different perception and it is quite normal as the algorithm works with some degree of randomness.

In general, I always thought that in the algorithm of many slots programmed that get into the bonus round can only after a certain number of spins, but in some slots I still managed to knock out the bonus after a few spins.

I think all these slot machines have basically the same algorithm in the end, they just change the icons and the sounds, lights, etc.

They need to pass certification to operate, so I don't think they have too many different ones.

If we only knew before hand how this algorithm,or better the algorithm of each slot works as one thing is sure,they all operate differently,some slot machines like Fruit Party,Sweet Bonaza and fruits related operate much differently from Big Bass slot series,their game play mechanics is quite different.Sure most slot machines look a lot alike as in the end they only do one thing,in the long run they drain our money in the fastest possible way.Even other providers like Play n Go and Relax Gaming do the same,they keep you rollin a bit and then boom money is gone,so in the end as I said before slots are programmed to drain our money.

would be awesome to talk with some of the programmers and engineers that work on these algos and on building these machines

or even getting a machine and reverse hacking it to figure it out
so many things to discover

do you things physical slots can be gamed?
legendary
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August 31, 2023, 08:15:43 AM
~snip~
Why do you think your perception is wrong. Each of us playing the same game will get a completely different perception and it is quite normal as the algorithm works with some degree of randomness.

In general, I always thought that in the algorithm of many slots programmed that get into the bonus round can only after a certain number of spins, but in some slots I still managed to knock out the bonus after a few spins.

I think all these slot machines have basically the same algorithm in the end, they just change the icons and the sounds, lights, etc.

They need to pass certification to operate, so I don't think they have too many different ones.

If we only knew before hand how this algorithm,or better the algorithm of each slot works as one thing is sure,they all operate differently,some slot machines like Fruit Party,Sweet Bonaza and fruits related operate much differently from Big Bass slot series,their game play mechanics is quite different.Sure most slot machines look a lot alike as in the end they only do one thing,in the long run they drain our money in the fastest possible way.Even other providers like Play n Go and Relax Gaming do the same,they keep you rollin a bit and then boom money is gone,so in the end as I said before slots are programmed to drain our money.
sr. member
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August 31, 2023, 05:25:45 AM
Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.
I agree with you, that most slots are self-defeating if we can't manage the money we use to play slots and I see around me that most people who play slots lose and the money they risk is not small.
In my opinion, people who play slots at first are just curious, but over time they become addicted to the game, and don't realize that in fact they will only lose, but it is unlikely that anyone will win compared to the results they get. 90% lose and 10% win.
And the impact of slots is that they are ready to accept defeat and lose the money we have and this will have an impact on ourselves and our own families.
hero member
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August 31, 2023, 04:59:10 AM
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Why do you think your perception is wrong. Each of us playing the same game will get a completely different perception and it is quite normal as the algorithm works with some degree of randomness.

In general, I always thought that in the algorithm of many slots programmed that get into the bonus round can only after a certain number of spins, but in some slots I still managed to knock out the bonus after a few spins.

I think all these slot machines have basically the same algorithm in the end, they just change the icons and the sounds, lights, etc.

They need to pass certification to operate, so I don't think they have too many different ones.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
August 30, 2023, 10:04:58 AM
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This is just a coincidence IMO but I cant deny that there are some players who experience the same as you including me some time, but it does not like that in the other times.
Its all about luck, it may come early after we start spinning or it may come after hundreds/thousands spin or if it is really bad luck, we wont get free spins after thousands spins.
For sure we have our own experience that may different to other's experience, for me I think I have experienced all cases as I have played slot games for a long time with countless spins.
The best thing to do is to have a limit of how many spins we want to play for each game or limit how much money to spend in each game.

Yeah, the best is to have a maximum amount you spend, and not go over it, because, realistically speaking, every gambler will simply end up losing all that they gamble.

If you don't put a maximum and stop there, you will eventually literally run out of money.

yes that is almost all of the times true but have you heard this crazy stories where a gambler go to Vegas, lose everything then sell their house, and their dog and their children, come back, goes all in and then makes it all back 10x?

there are some like that in the story of humanity and these are fun too check

though I wouldn't recomment trying it at home.
legendary
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August 30, 2023, 08:54:06 AM
^

Why do you think your perception is wrong. Each of us playing the same game will get a completely different perception and it is quite normal as the algorithm works with some degree of randomness.

In general, I always thought that in the algorithm of many slots programmed that get into the bonus round can only after a certain number of spins, but in some slots I still managed to knock out the bonus after a few spins.
legendary
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hmph..
August 30, 2023, 07:56:54 AM
This is just a coincidence IMO but I cant deny that there are some players who experience the same as you including me some time, but it does not like that in the other times.
Its all about luck, it may come early after we start spinning or it may come after hundreds/thousands spin or if it is really bad luck, we wont get free spins after thousands spins.
For sure we have our own experience that may different to other's experience, for me I think I have experienced all cases as I have played slot games for a long time with countless spins.
The best thing to do is to have a limit of how many spins we want to play for each game or limit how much money to spend in each game.


Of course, it's a coincidence, not a certainty, that's why I mentioned that I often get free spins under hundreds of spins when opening an account. Because it doesn't always work that way. I also often find that when I first open an account, I don't get the free spins I have to wait for until my balance runs out. Switching games is not a solution. However, if there are some gambler who experience the same thing, there is a possibility that sometimes the system works that way. There is a phase where when we just log in we have the potential to get free spins earlier. But, since you are playing slots older than me, and if you think this is a pure of luck, so it's mean I have the wrong perception.
legendary
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August 30, 2023, 07:48:47 AM
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I agree with you. The probability of winning in slots is roughly equal to the probability of winning in dice. This can be confirmed by the fact that these gambling games have approximately the same RTP. Naturally, the RTP for each individual gambler will be different so someone is more lucky in slots and someone dais. Personally, I have more luck in slots, so I prefer them over dice. But of course all of this is very subjective.
hero member
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August 30, 2023, 07:15:33 AM
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I don't if it's just me but in my experience and observation, your winning rate is more higher in dice games compared to slots. That's why losing in slots is more often. Therefore, I don't recommend higher bets in slots because as what you've said, this game is money melting. Another things is that, games that are fast-paced just like slots, tends to be more addicting compared to others. Which is why being careful and mindful with your gambling activities should be observed.
If you compare slot games with dice games, its the same, the difference is only the house edge. we all know that all casino games will depend a lot on luck, even though you feel that the dice game has less risk of losing, but actually its just about luck, just like slot games. Im not a professional gambler, but from my experience there is no difference between the two. Its just that the original dice game from one of the casinos gives you the opportunity to bet a very small amount, while the slot game provides a minimum bet amount of $0.1 in each spin and the chances of winning and losing are the same for me.
hero member
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August 30, 2023, 07:04:49 AM
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Of the several slot games that I use, when our account first opens a slot game, we will easily get free spins, this is my personal experience. When we have continued to play, up to hundreds of spins, we will find it difficult to find the second free spins. Even if we get a few free spinse from hundreds of spins we do, most of them are dead spins, and still we will got lower winning amount. This is my personal experience and this conclusion is based on what happened to me. I believe it will be different from other people's results. DWYOR
In the past, I have gotten free spins, which are really free, meaning they don't require wagering requirements or anything so that I can withdraw the money for free. But right now, I think it's already difficult to get free spins that are truly free because if we win, there will be conditions that follow. Most people need to read the terms behind it, which triggers problems that often arise later. So casinos really give free spins, but we have to deposit a minimum amount to get them, and some casinos then add wagering requirements, which are often burdensome for gamblers. And I agree with getting what we want because what other people get will not work for us.

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It's not just slot games that can make us addicted, as well as other types of games that involve betting. The good thing is, to play slot games, we don't need any skills. enough just to understand, we can play it. This type of slot game also has a strong appeal for gamblers, luring every curiosity to lead us to play it again and again. This game is quite entertaining, although it is very risky. and usually the problem for gamblers is, our curiosity is high to play it again, assuming that this time we win, but the facts cannot be predicted.

Losing and winning in every game session is something that is certain, but because of our high curiosity, let alone wanting to benefit from the game, the results are usually not satisfactory. well, so this is a common thing that happens to most gamblers.  related to whatever slot gamblers do, they have the right to play as they want. most importantly, they know every risk contained therein. if only for fun, play within limits we can afford to lose. but if otherwise, do it but all at your own risk.
All gambling games can be addicting, which has made many people addicted to playing the games again. Playing slots does not require skill because it is a gambling game that is very easy to play. Because of this convenience, many people love it and play it every time they visit a casino. Moreover, the many slot game providers always provide updates about slot games released by casinos, making gamblers even more curious to play them one by one. This slot game provider knows what gamblers want and ends up applying it to many slot games.

Playing this slot can result in many losses, regardless of the number of bets we use, so before you start playing, you must first determine how many bets you can afford so that you don't lose a lot of money. What is certain is that if you have experienced consecutive losses, you should immediately stop playing because otherwise, your losses will get bigger. You will be surprised to see them. We must know the limits of gambling and not take too big risks if we can't afford it.
hero member
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August 30, 2023, 03:23:09 AM
Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.
Yes, playing slots can be addicting because of the fun we find, especially if we haven't managed to get a big win. Slot games can continue to tempt us to keep playing and provide the opportunity to buy Free Spins where the win rate may be higher than playing normally. This is why, when we want to play slots, we have to calculate how much money we can afford so we don't regret losing. With a small bet, it's enough to have fun playing slots, and whatever the result, we won't regret it because we will take it well. And hopefully, when we play slots, our luck will come and help us to win. That's what all gamblers who like playing slots most hope for, including myself Grin
Losing and winning in every game session is something that is certain, but because of our high curiosity, let alone wanting to benefit from the game, the results are usually not satisfactory. well, so this is a common thing that happens to most gamblers.  related to whatever slot gamblers do, they have the right to play as they want. most importantly, they know every risk contained therein. if only for fun, play within limits we can afford to lose. but if otherwise, do it but all at your own risk.

True, and that was indeed the answer to all the sessions when they ended. Everyone needs and wants money, and perhaps most of them come to multiply the money they bring, so it's only natural that they do everything just for the sake of winning, but the fact of the matter is well lose again as it has been. In fact, all gamblers must change their mindset, there is no certain victory there, whatever you do it will not be able to affect the chances of winning, but you are free if you want to gamble there, I do not prohibit. And I agree with what you said, if you want to be a gambler then inevitably you have to have full self-control there, because various conditions and pressures may definitely be experienced, and what will help you is as we discussed, self-control or limits.
legendary
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August 30, 2023, 02:11:58 AM
Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.
Yes, playing slots can be addicting because of the fun we find, especially if we haven't managed to get a big win. Slot games can continue to tempt us to keep playing and provide the opportunity to buy Free Spins where the win rate may be higher than playing normally. This is why, when we want to play slots, we have to calculate how much money we can afford so we don't regret losing. With a small bet, it's enough to have fun playing slots, and whatever the result, we won't regret it because we will take it well. And hopefully, when we play slots, our luck will come and help us to win. That's what all gamblers who like playing slots most hope for, including myself Grin

It's not just slot games that can make us addicted, as well as other types of games that involve betting. The good thing is, to play slot games, we don't need any skills. enough just to understand, we can play it. This type of slot game also has a strong appeal for gamblers, luring every curiosity to lead us to play it again and again. This game is quite entertaining, although it is very risky. and usually the problem for gamblers is, our curiosity is high to play it again, assuming that this time we win, but the facts cannot be predicted.

Losing and winning in every game session is something that is certain, but because of our high curiosity, let alone wanting to benefit from the game, the results are usually not satisfactory. well, so this is a common thing that happens to most gamblers.  related to whatever slot gamblers do, they have the right to play as they want. most importantly, they know every risk contained therein. if only for fun, play within limits we can afford to lose. but if otherwise, do it but all at your own risk.
sr. member
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August 30, 2023, 01:51:46 AM
Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.

I don't if it's just me but in my experience and observation, your winning rate is more higher in dice games compared to slots. That's why losing in slots is more often. Therefore, I don't recommend higher bets in slots because as what you've said, this game is money melting. Another things is that, games that are fast-paced just like slots, tends to be more addicting compared to others. Which is why being careful and mindful with your gambling activities should be observed.
hero member
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August 30, 2023, 01:05:51 AM
~snip~
This is just a coincidence IMO but I cant deny that there are some players who experience the same as you including me some time, but it does not like that in the other times.
Its all about luck, it may come early after we start spinning or it may come after hundreds/thousands spin or if it is really bad luck, we wont get free spins after thousands spins.
For sure we have our own experience that may different to other's experience, for me I think I have experienced all cases as I have played slot games for a long time with countless spins.
The best thing to do is to have a limit of how many spins we want to play for each game or limit how much money to spend in each game.

Yeah, the best is to have a maximum amount you spend, and not go over it, because, realistically speaking, every gambler will simply end up losing all that they gamble.

If you don't put a maximum and stop there, you will eventually literally run out of money.
legendary
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August 29, 2023, 08:04:07 PM
Yes, playing slots can be addicting because of the fun we find, especially if we haven't managed to get a big win. Slot games can continue to tempt us to keep playing and provide the opportunity to buy Free Spins where the win rate may be higher than playing normally. This is why, when we want to play slots, we have to calculate how much money we can afford so we don't regret losing. With a small bet, it's enough to have fun playing slots, and whatever the result, we won't regret it because we will take it well. And hopefully, when we play slots, our luck will come and help us to win. That's what all gamblers who like playing slots most hope for, including myself Grin

Of the several slot games that I use, when our account first opens a slot game, we will easily get free spins, this is my personal experience. When we have continued to play, up to hundreds of spins, we will find it difficult to find the second free spins. Even if we get a few free spinse from hundreds of spins we do, most of them are dead spins, and still we will got lower winning amount. This is my personal experience and this conclusion is based on what happened to me. I believe it will be different from other people's results. DWYOR

They are very valuable experiences and that any person can teach how to do things, personally I think that a person who plays a lot in slots can draw these conclusions, so these things are what we as players should learn, because many have already I've been there, I'm also very happy when they give me free spins because each free spin is an opportunity to win, I don't know if the multipklkicadr is good and faavorbla. Not all the time means that we lose in the slots, I apply a very special technique in the slots, and that is me when I play in the slots because I want to have fun, and nothing else, that's why the balance that I have for the slots is low, and as it is to have fun I do not seek or pressure myself looking for profits, quite the opposite, if I win it is super good, but if I lose I am still calm and satisfied, because unlike many players and I play slots to de-stress, I do not care if I lose, but for the players who seek their profits using the slots, it is somewhat riskier, because it is true that the slots are quite addictive, and that is something we all know, the more you play, the more option we believe we have to win .

There are many people who play and win big,, as I said, at stake.com when there is a player who wins, they publish it and congratulate them, in addition to the fact that the owner of the casino congratulates him and he himself makes the transfer of funds that he won, there are also other people who in bitcasino, or also win big, in deulbits I have also seen that they win and that they publish it, of course they are not large amounts like in stake.com but they are capable of doing great things with slots, At first I didn't like slot machines, because I spent my money very quickly, but after you learn certain things, it makes it exciting, and as I say, the music of the slot machines, the atmosphere and all that, at least for me. I entertain myself and take away all stress.
legendary
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August 29, 2023, 02:07:57 PM
Yes, playing slots can be addicting because of the fun we find, especially if we haven't managed to get a big win. Slot games can continue to tempt us to keep playing and provide the opportunity to buy Free Spins where the win rate may be higher than playing normally. This is why, when we want to play slots, we have to calculate how much money we can afford so we don't regret losing. With a small bet, it's enough to have fun playing slots, and whatever the result, we won't regret it because we will take it well. And hopefully, when we play slots, our luck will come and help us to win. That's what all gamblers who like playing slots most hope for, including myself Grin

Of the several slot games that I use, when our account first opens a slot game, we will easily get free spins, this is my personal experience. When we have continued to play, up to hundreds of spins, we will find it difficult to find the second free spins. Even if we get a few free spinse from hundreds of spins we do, most of them are dead spins, and still we will got lower winning amount. This is my personal experience and this conclusion is based on what happened to me. I believe it will be different from other people's results. DWYOR

You mate are an old gambler just like me and I will add the same experience meaning personal experience.Every time I play Pragmatic Play slots and I play with IDR as a currency and use the minimum bet,in well known games like Sweet Bonanza it keeps giving me wins over the long run as long as I don't change the bet,I got from 240.000 IDR to 1.300.000 IDR just by buying the bonus at 20.000 IDR meaning that it kept me playing for long until I got in profit.As soon as I raise the bet though,it drains my money instantly although this last weekend before draining my money I got an x2500 win multiplier there,which didn't do me any good of course as greed got the best out of me and I lost everything then.
legendary
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August 29, 2023, 11:36:01 AM
Yes, playing slots can be addicting because of the fun we find, especially if we haven't managed to get a big win. Slot games can continue to tempt us to keep playing and provide the opportunity to buy Free Spins where the win rate may be higher than playing normally. This is why, when we want to play slots, we have to calculate how much money we can afford so we don't regret losing. With a small bet, it's enough to have fun playing slots, and whatever the result, we won't regret it because we will take it well. And hopefully, when we play slots, our luck will come and help us to win. That's what all gamblers who like playing slots most hope for, including myself Grin

Of the several slot games that I use, when our account first opens a slot game, we will easily get free spins, this is my personal experience. When we have continued to play, up to hundreds of spins, we will find it difficult to find the second free spins. Even if we get a few free spinse from hundreds of spins we do, most of them are dead spins, and still we will got lower winning amount. This is my personal experience and this conclusion is based on what happened to me. I believe it will be different from other people's results. DWYOR

This is just a coincidence IMO but I cant deny that there are some players who experience the same as you including me some time, but it does not like that in the other times.
Its all about luck, it may come early after we start spinning or it may come after hundreds/thousands spin or if it is really bad luck, we wont get free spins after thousands spins.
For sure we have our own experience that may different to other's experience, for me I think I have experienced all cases as I have played slot games for a long time with countless spins.
The best thing to do is to have a limit of how many spins we want to play for each game or limit how much money to spend in each game.
legendary
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hmph..
August 29, 2023, 10:00:10 AM
Yes, playing slots can be addicting because of the fun we find, especially if we haven't managed to get a big win. Slot games can continue to tempt us to keep playing and provide the opportunity to buy Free Spins where the win rate may be higher than playing normally. This is why, when we want to play slots, we have to calculate how much money we can afford so we don't regret losing. With a small bet, it's enough to have fun playing slots, and whatever the result, we won't regret it because we will take it well. And hopefully, when we play slots, our luck will come and help us to win. That's what all gamblers who like playing slots most hope for, including myself Grin

Of the several slot games that I use, when our account first opens a slot game, we will easily get free spins, this is my personal experience. When we have continued to play, up to hundreds of spins, we will find it difficult to find the second free spins. Even if we get a few free spinse from hundreds of spins we do, most of them are dead spins, and still we will got lower winning amount. This is my personal experience and this conclusion is based on what happened to me. I believe it will be different from other people's results. DWYOR
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August 29, 2023, 09:46:52 AM
Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.
Yes, playing slots can be addicting because of the fun we find, especially if we haven't managed to get a big win. Slot games can continue to tempt us to keep playing and provide the opportunity to buy Free Spins where the win rate may be higher than playing normally. This is why, when we want to play slots, we have to calculate how much money we can afford so we don't regret losing. With a small bet, it's enough to have fun playing slots, and whatever the result, we won't regret it because we will take it well. And hopefully, when we play slots, our luck will come and help us to win. That's what all gamblers who like playing slots most hope for, including myself Grin
hero member
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August 28, 2023, 11:48:03 PM
Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.

I guess it depends on the specific game, but yes, slots are generally not great for the gambler.

I think Poker is probably the one with the highest chances for the gambler, even though it's still lower than the casino of course.
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