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legendary
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America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.

In my opinion, the two country's have entirely different financial systems so Russia would probably keep the information from the IRS as the IRS would keep it hidden from Russia, beneath the surface they are still two old powers that wouldn't share that much information with each other Smiley
Also agree they wouldn't tell the IRS unless they got something worthwhile in exchange.

Don't be so sure. The US buys cooperation from nations around the world, $37,680,000,000 dollars worth of cooperation every year.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/19/37680000000-thats-how-much-the-u-s-spends-on-foreign-aid-heres-a-chart-that-helps-explain-it/
hero member
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in defi we trust
America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.

In my opinion, the two country's have entirely different financial systems so Russia would probably keep the information from the IRS as the IRS would keep it hidden from Russia, beneath the surface they are still two old powers that wouldn't share that much information with each other Smiley
Also agree they wouldn't tell the IRS unless they got something worthwhile in exchange.

Unleash the irony:

Russian officials laugh about the western ban on assets , then they find those guys are breaking the law and with huge amounts  , and now they have no way to enforce the law without the us and Europe help Smiley.


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The Russian president has charged the Central Bank and the government with the task of developing a working scheme allowing enforcement of the ban on civil servants’ and officials’ foreign assets through cooperation with foreign banks.

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Russia’s Financial Ombudsman Pavel Medvedev has assessed the chances of ensuring international cooperation in enforcing the foreign asset ban as extremely low. Medvedev said the program could be feasible if it had been initiated four years ago. This was when the United States was building the network around its Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, obliging foreign banks to inform US authorities about accounts of US citizens, or even whom they suspect are US citizens or people with ties to the country.




legendary
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America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.

In my opinion, the two country's have entirely different financial systems so Russia would probably keep the information from the IRS as the IRS would keep it hidden from Russia, beneath the surface they are still two old powers that wouldn't share that much information with each other Smiley
Also agree they wouldn't tell the IRS unless they got something worthwhile in exchange.
hero member
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in defi we trust
America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.

But I do wonder why they are not running their operation from mother russia?
If  Russian laws are that bitcoin friendly Smiley
legendary
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America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.

Then the Russians would invent new methods to make the regulation impossible to achieve. For example, the BTC-E exchange is owned by the Russians and they never ask for any ID documents. They also never cooperate with the American tax authorities. If someone converts his Bitcoins to fiat using BTC-E, the American IRS has no way of knowing it.
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RT is way more reputable than the american main stream media
QFT!

It's because of Max Keiser and his influence on them.

It has nothing to do with Russia's view on bitcoin.
Also true.

Long term it doesn't matter anyway. Trying to attack America using Bitcoin is like trying to use targeted biological warfare. Never a smart idea, every plague movie has taught us that shit goes pandemic.

Bitcoin is going pandemic as we speak. No nation-state on this planet will be spared. Iceland may take awhile to crack, though.
legendary
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yes, they promote an negative image against the US gov. The US media in term promotes a negative image of the Russians.

The recent events have solidified the propaganda war (especially the conflict in Ukraine). So we can be pretty sure that Putin will give all his support to Bitcoin, in case Obama decides to ban it.  Grin

America won't ban it. That would give in to the Russians. They'll do the same thing they do with everything good. They'll regulate it out of existence.
legendary
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yes, they promote an negative image against the US gov. The US media in term promotes a negative image of the Russians.

The recent events have solidified the propaganda war (especially the conflict in Ukraine). So we can be pretty sure that Putin will give all his support to Bitcoin, in case Obama decides to ban it.  Grin
legendary
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i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure Smiley

I have already posted about this many times. Russia is not anti-Bitcoin. I have many friends in Russia and they have never ever faced any difficulty from the part of the authorities. A number of Bitcoin exchanges and other businesses are currently operating from Russia as well.

I think you're right. Russia is anti-American. Anything that has the potential to fuck up the USA is going to give the Russians a massive boner.

yes, they promote an negative image against the US gov. The US media in term promotes a negative image of the Russians.


I predict that a major part of the strategy of future conflicts will be to attempt to use a nation's own citizens against them.  It will be an even more key part of future conflicts than it has been in times past.

I further predict that we'll start to recognize a lot of defensive measures put in place to try to thwart this threat.  I suspect that it is a major component of the explosive interest that governments are displaying when it comes to internal population surveillance and social media analysis.

I think that China's biggest mistake is not having been quicker to relax the totalitarian nature of their information control.  This to attempt to build needed credibility among their citizenry as the conflicts pick up steam.  It will be that much easier to induce 'color revolutions' and related efforts when the population is already highly and justifiably suspicious and under strain.  The U.S. has some significant advantage in this respect, but we are burning it quickly with our covert efforts at population manipulation.

The flip side is that if a population is already used to living under overtly totalitarian structures they might be less shaken than a population who is hurriedly forced into them.  Particularly when some of the older crowd remember the propaganda about how 'freedom' was a defining characteristic of our social fabric.  So, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

To an increasing extent the U.S.'s advantage is along the lines of Goethe's famous quote:   "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."  When these chickens come home to roost I believe that there will be some regrets about our strategies that seem so simple, obvious, and common sense to totalitarian thinkers like our current crop of leadership.  Such a shame.

sr. member
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i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure Smiley

I have already posted about this many times. Russia is not anti-Bitcoin. I have many friends in Russia and they have never ever faced any difficulty from the part of the authorities. A number of Bitcoin exchanges and other businesses are currently operating from Russia as well.

I think you're right. Russia is anti-American. Anything that has the potential to fuck up the USA is going to give the Russians a massive boner.

yes, they promote an negative image against the US gov. The US media in term promotes a negative image of the Russians.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1393
You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure Smiley

I have already posted about this many times. Russia is not anti-Bitcoin. I have many friends in Russia and they have never ever faced any difficulty from the part of the authorities. A number of Bitcoin exchanges and other businesses are currently operating from Russia as well.

I think you're right. Russia is anti-American. Anything that has the potential to fuck up the USA is going to give the Russians a massive boner.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1217
i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure Smiley

I have already posted about this many times. Russia is not anti-Bitcoin. I have many friends in Russia and they have never ever faced any difficulty from the part of the authorities. A number of Bitcoin exchanges and other businesses are currently operating from Russia as well.
legendary
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rt is way more reputable than the american main stream media

Are you kidding me? American media are full of shit of course, but RT is something from the highest, unreachable level of lying.

Except when its not lying which is the weird thing it is just the clearly spoken truth it may not be the truth people want to hear but it certainly is
Take this Propaganda clip on Paris Hilton for example it may seem critical even bias but nonetheless they hit the nail on the head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kfiAobcGow
newbie
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rt is way more reputable than the american main stream media

Are you kidding me? American media are full of shit of course, but RT is something from the highest, unreachable level of lying.
hero member
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Watch RT with the knowledge that this is what Russia wants foreigners to believe. But not their own citizens.

I watch both RT and Russian national TV channels and don't see any differences in news they show.

Bitcoin promotion is just a Max Keizer thing I guess, and it doesn't represent the TV channel's point of view.
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i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure

In Russia, afaik, people deal with laws somewhat differently. For example, it is common to pay an officer a cheaper ("black market") price than an official government parking bill. Of course, this may depend on if you are in Moscow or one of the smaller villages.

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Is RT controlled by Russian government or it is a privately held news outfit ?

They are funded by the Russian government.
sr. member
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i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure Smiley

Think about it just for a moment.

Russia has a news organization that they do not show to their citizens, only to people in foreign countries.

This news organization promotes something that could destabilize a foreign government currency if the people adopt it.

Watch RT with the knowledge that this is what Russia wants foreigners to believe. But not their own citizens.

This is a great summary of the RT channel. There are more than enough national channels in Russia to push the pro-Putin line within the country. RT exposes the hypocrisy of the US for Western viewers. Having said that, as a Canadian I enjoy having a different, and often correct view on what the US and other Western nations are doing. But I keep in mind that it is also incredibly biased whenever it mentions anything that Russia or its allies do.
legendary
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Irrespective of RTs take on BTC, it's good to have that channel on the dial in some cable packages in hopes that more people will stumble upon it and challenge their own vision of what's actually going on in the world.
legendary
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Rt news is the great and only channel promoting bitcoin much compared to other channels..

just wondering are there rt news fans here?

Is RT controlled by Russian government or it is a privately held news outfit ?
legendary
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i find it so weird that russia has been pretty anti bitcoin with its laws and regulations,  yet a news outlet owned by russia promotes bitcion.  Go figure Smiley

To me it has been quite the interesting paradox strong promotions on Russian television with Keiser and his Maxcoin(Died) and Bitcoin in General and yet an attitude in Russia that suggests the opposite Smiley.
(He-He that said Elwar has a good point and I never considered it that way)
I will admit that I am a Max Keiser fan and a person who enjoys watching RT sometimes the Russian promotion gets a bit heavy, but it provides a strong critical analysis to Western Media and is refreshing in the way it expands your perspective.
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