Topic: Do you really think this is normal? (Read 715 times)
I see nothing wrong with proof of authentication. Proof of authentication is to identify you're joining the bounty through social network either Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram. The proof of authentication is where you'll be posting all your work with link and details about your account
Prove of authentication simply means you are a partaker in the bounty.. That's a bounty rule for those that are doing bounties through Facebook and Twitter..they normally link their work of the task they carried out
@mprep
Thanks for the explanation. That's basically what I thought.
If a bounty requires an authentication post, users are allowed to make one as long as they are not taking part in an illegal activity such as a forum giveaway or they are not ban evading. Makes sense.
But what the bounty hunters probably don't know is that if the bounty itself is breaking the forum rules by organising an on-forum giveaway, any POA post by bounty hunters can get their accounts banned! This should be their main focus because they are probably thinking nothing will happen to them and in case the thread is against the rules it will just get trashed and they wont face any consequences.
Thanks for the explanation. That's basically what I thought.
If a bounty requires an authentication post, users are allowed to make one as long as they are not taking part in an illegal activity such as a forum giveaway or they are not ban evading. Makes sense.
But what the bounty hunters probably don't know is that if the bounty itself is breaking the forum rules by organising an on-forum giveaway, any POA post by bounty hunters can get their accounts banned! This should be their main focus because they are probably thinking nothing will happen to them and in case the thread is against the rules it will just get trashed and they wont face any consequences.
a) the bounty / airdrop / giveaway / whatever doesn't require them.
b) the bounty / airdrop / giveaway / whatever is breaking the rules.
c) the user is already prohibited from participating on the forum (e.g. his other account got banned)
I've updated the stickied thread to clarify what I mean by "not required" or "not allowed"
What if they have not stated they require the posts on their thread but are requiring it on their discord? Are you looking that into depth or should be stated on their bounty thread that these proof of authentication posts are required? I would like to help reporting stuff in the bounty sub forum but have never really understood the specifics of authentication posts.b) the bounty / airdrop / giveaway / whatever is breaking the rules.
c) the user is already prohibited from participating on the forum (e.g. his other account got banned)
I've updated the stickied thread to clarify what I mean by "not required" or "not allowed"
a) the bounty / airdrop / giveaway / whatever doesn't require them.
b) the bounty / airdrop / giveaway / whatever is breaking the rules.
c) the user is already prohibited from participating on the forum (e.g. his other account got banned)
I've updated the stickied thread to clarify what I mean by "not required" or "not allowed"
What if they have not stated they require the posts on their thread but are requiring it on their discord? Are you looking that into depth or should be stated on their bounty thread that these proof of authentication posts are required? I would like to help reporting stuff in the bounty sub forum but have never really understood the specifics of authentication posts. b) the bounty / airdrop / giveaway / whatever is breaking the rules.
c) the user is already prohibited from participating on the forum (e.g. his other account got banned)
I've updated the stickied thread to clarify what I mean by "not required" or "not allowed"
mprep stated
My questions to mprep and the admins:
1. Are those Proof of Authentication posts considered "joined" type of posts?
2. If it is a requirement of the bounty to post such a post then a user can't be banned for it, correct?
3. When is it allowed and when not?
Even if such posts were allowed they would be against the 1st rule of Bitcointalk:
I think that is best to be answered by one of the admins or global mods. Because the rules are kind of conflicting one with the other.
1. Depends on the type of activity they are posting the proof of authentication posts for. If the OP doesn't require users to post PoA posts or said posts are for a giveaway that's breaking the forum's rules, that's not allowed and participants can get banned for it. Otherwise, (at least IMO, other mods might disagree so take this with a grain of salt) there shouldn't be a limit as to how many proof of authentication posts you can post. All of the activity they generate is already localized to the Bounties (Altcoins) board so if a user only wishes to participate in bounties and nothing else, I don't see the harm in it.Quote
Users posting "joined" type posts when not required or allowed will be BANNED
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/users-posting-joined-type-posts-when-not-required-or-allowed-will-be-banned-2284371My questions to mprep and the admins:
1. Are those Proof of Authentication posts considered "joined" type of posts?
2. If it is a requirement of the bounty to post such a post then a user can't be banned for it, correct?
3. When is it allowed and when not?
Even if such posts were allowed they would be against the 1st rule of Bitcointalk:
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1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads
I think that is best to be answered by one of the admins or global mods. Because the rules are kind of conflicting one with the other.
2. Not always, see answer 1:
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If <...> said posts are for a giveaway that's breaking the forum's rules, that's not allowed and participants can get banned for it
3. It's all outlined in the stickies in Bounties (Altcoins). The very rough (seriously, read the stickied threads) tl;dr of it is that PoA posts are prohibited when:
a) the bounty / airdrop / giveaway / whatever doesn't require them.
b) the bounty / airdrop / giveaway / whatever is breaking the rules.
c) the user is already prohibited from participating on the forum (e.g. his other account got banned)
I've updated the stickied thread to clarify what I mean by "not required" or "not allowed"
mprep stated
My questions to mprep and the admins:
1. Are those Proof of Authentication posts considered "joined" type of posts?
2. If it is a requirement of the bounty to post such a post then a user can't be banned for it, correct?
3. When is it allowed and when not?
Even if such posts were allowed they would be against the 1st rule of Bitcointalk:
I think that is best to be answered by one of the admins or global mods. Because the rules are kind of conflicting one with the other.
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Users posting "joined" type posts when not required or allowed will be BANNED
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/users-posting-joined-type-posts-when-not-required-or-allowed-will-be-banned-2284371My questions to mprep and the admins:
1. Are those Proof of Authentication posts considered "joined" type of posts?
2. If it is a requirement of the bounty to post such a post then a user can't be banned for it, correct?
3. When is it allowed and when not?
Even if such posts were allowed they would be against the 1st rule of Bitcointalk:
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1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads
I think that is best to be answered by one of the admins or global mods. Because the rules are kind of conflicting one with the other.
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But if it is a requirement then you cannot do much.
But if it is a requirement then you cannot do much.
Sure there is... Don't join the campaign.
Here's an analog example:
In my country it's illegal to own unlicensed firearms. In other words: the rule of my country tells me that if i own an unlicensed gun, i'll be banned (sent to jail).
One day, I try to join a biker gang out of my own free will, but they will only make me a full member if i own an unlicensed gun, so I buy one.
IF the police one day raids my home and finds the gun, do you think the judge will understand my reasoning if i tell him: "The biker gang would not make me a member if i did not own an unlicensed gun", do you think he'll be lenient, or do you think he'll say something like: "nobody forced you to join the gang, so i'll sentence you to 5 years in prison for owning an unlicensed gun".
Back to those bounty campaigns: "nobody forced you to join the bounty campaign, so if you break the rules you'll probably end up being banned for shitposting".
I'd rather see bounty campaigns leave the forum, i don't think they add much to the conversation, it's very seldom to see one of those hunters say anything meaningfull at all.
It's literally the first rule of the forum:
And yes, I know those are just guidelines, but rest assured that moderators will take action against users who just post these crappy replies on bounty threads.
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1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.
Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657And yes, I know those are just guidelines, but rest assured that moderators will take action against users who just post these crappy replies on bounty threads.
But such posts are a requirement to join the bounty and has been made a requirement by the bounty manager. If anything, the BM should be held responsible. I clearly remember, mprep making an announcement that people making proof of authentication in bounty threads that don't require you to make them, will be banned. But if it is a requirement then you cannot do much.
I haven't checked this account mentioned by OP, but I assume that this is one from many Junk Accounts created only for one purpose which is bounty.
I will not repeat myself here because I created THIS thread some time ago, exactly because of such accounts. Only or mostly with "proof of authentication" posts and social media campaigns reports.
If somebody is interested in what I understand by Junk Accounts, please read the thread.
I have read all comments above and most of you are right that proof of authentication is needed and widely used by managers to avoid bounty abuse.
Personally, I don't think that these accounts have any interest in this forum (to be valuable members), besides bounty hunting.
In the last 2 years, we have experienced multiple improvements in the Bitcointalk forum and already many of this Junk Accounts are banned.
Maybe there should be one more rank: "bounty hunter"
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I will not repeat myself here because I created THIS thread some time ago, exactly because of such accounts. Only or mostly with "proof of authentication" posts and social media campaigns reports.
If somebody is interested in what I understand by Junk Accounts, please read the thread.
I have read all comments above and most of you are right that proof of authentication is needed and widely used by managers to avoid bounty abuse.
Personally, I don't think that these accounts have any interest in this forum (to be valuable members), besides bounty hunting.
In the last 2 years, we have experienced multiple improvements in the Bitcointalk forum and already many of this Junk Accounts are banned.
Maybe there should be one more rank: "bounty hunter"
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Proof of authentication is needed whether if that is with a pm or a thread post because people will just steal your credentials and enter them as your own. However he really does look like he is doing this simply for his signature campaign and isn't really joining those bounties.
Thats just normal for one of the hardcore bounty Hunter Gang !
When they got there shit together they start posting !
Maybe a bot .
When they got there shit together they start posting !
Maybe a bot .
Now do you really think this is normal?
I didn't even have the the time to list all of it but this is what i have gathered in my free time.
OP is pointing out that user Bitkoyns posted multiple PoA in the same thread
afaik, bounty participant only needs to do PoA once to join a bounty program
so I think it is not normal doing it multiple times for the same project,
imo, it qualifies as multiposting and should be reported to be deleted
Let's say a user actually creates 10 different accounts and posts the same message in the same bounty thread, how'd one know if those accounts are linked? Assuming they have different throwaway telegram accounts.
So like Proof of Authentication works like, if a user applies via a google form, they also post in the thread with the same details so the manager can verify and authenticate the entry. Proof of Authentication is used to verify whether or not a certain bitcointalk user applied for a campaign or not. So like, what some shitposters used to do is, use random bitcointalk user's names to get multiple entries in the bounties without the user's consent or knowledge, and made a shitload of money by that.
Correct me if I am wrong^.
Just hit that 'Report to Moderator' button and he'll be handled. Also, can some bounty hunter please explain what the fuck does Proof of Authentication mean? Is that a new type of consensus algorithm created by bounty hunters? 
You used to be a manager yourself sometime ago. How come you don't know what Proof of Authentication means? ; #Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk username: Bitkoyns
Bitcointalk profile URL: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitkoyns-921760
Your telegram username: @Bitkoyns
Bitcointalk username: Bitkoyns
Bitcointalk profile URL: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitkoyns-921760
Your telegram username: @Bitkoyns
Proof of authentification is something managers do to make sure users in the bounty are actual owners of bitcointalk accounts as well. Keeps users from enrolling 6000000000
fake accounts into the bounty and multiaccounting.
Let's say a user actually creates 10 different accounts and posts the same message in the same bounty thread, how'd one know if those accounts are linked? Assuming they have different throwaway telegram accounts. fake accounts into the bounty and multiaccounting.
Just hit that 'Report to Moderator' button and he'll be handled. Also, can some bounty hunter please explain what the fuck does Proof of Authentication mean? Is that a new type of consensus algorithm created by bounty hunters?
You used to be a manager yourself sometime ago. How come you don't know what Proof of Authentication means? 
Anyway, Yahoo just explained it above. However, it beats me hallow why bounty managers aren't asking every participants to put their payment addresses on their profile so it will be easily ascertained who is cheating with accounts that aren't theirs. I have seen usernames enrolled in bounties where as the true users don't even know about such bounties. I think enforcing that payment addresses be put on profiles will combat cheating. 
I don't see the wrong in this. Looks like he has recently joined these bounties and upon checking the thread of bounty, I see that many users have made similar posts of authentication. Maybe, it is a requirement from Bounty manager to make such a post. I don't think the concerned account has broken any of the rules of forum.
It's literally the first rule of the forum:
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1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.
Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657And yes, I know those are just guidelines, but rest assured that moderators will take action against users who just post these crappy replies on bounty threads.
Upon searching for a good altcoin bounty, i stumbled upon this user who post nothing but "Proof of Authentication" in the last 4 pages of his history.
I can't post image and i don't know how to archive post but here is the profile link.
Bitkoyns - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitkoyns-921760
I can't post image and i don't know how to archive post but here is the profile link.
Bitkoyns - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitkoyns-921760
I don't see the wrong in this. Looks like he has recently joined these bounties and upon checking the thread of bounty, I see that many users have made similar posts of authentication. Maybe, it is a requirement from Bounty manager to make such a post. I don't think the concerned account has broken any of the rules of forum.
I can't post image
For future reference, you are a newbie and there are certain things you are limited to doing but still newbie can upload pic with very small fee https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.24371150After which you upload your intended image to http://imgur.com/ and then copy the BB code then paste in on your post.
There's also an option to report a users post history to moderators, introduced by admin @Cyrus, this makes it easier to handle such mega spam cases
After recent discussion about it's usefulness, I've made a small userscript to add the Report to moderator button on the Show lasts posts of this person page.
You can upload it to a user script manager (eg:GreaseMonkey for FF).
Code:
Here is how it looks:
You can upload it to a user script manager (eg:GreaseMonkey for FF).
Code:
Code:
// ==UserScript==
// @name Post history report button
// @version 1.1
// @grant none
// @include https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=*;sa=showPosts*
// @include https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=*;sa=showPosts*
// @require https://code.jquery.com/jquery-2.2.4.min.js
// ==/UserScript==
var postLinks = $('td.middletext a:last-of-type');
var buttonLink = $("span.middletext").slice(1);
for (var i = 0; i < postLinks.length; i++) {
var postLink = $(postLinks[i]);
var reportLink = "Report to moderator";
$(buttonLink[i]).prepend (reportLink);
}
// @name Post history report button
// @version 1.1
// @grant none
// @include https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=*;sa=showPosts*
// @include https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=*;sa=showPosts*
// @require https://code.jquery.com/jquery-2.2.4.min.js
// ==/UserScript==
var postLinks = $('td.middletext a:last-of-type');
var buttonLink = $("span.middletext").slice(1);
for (var i = 0; i < postLinks.length; i++) {
var postLink = $(postLinks[i]);
var reportLink = "Report to moderator";
$(buttonLink[i]).prepend (reportLink);
}
Here is how it looks:
Proof of authentification is something managers do to make sure users in the bounty are actual owners of bitcointalk accounts as well. Keeps users from enrolling 6000000000
fake accounts into the bounty and multiaccounting.
fake accounts into the bounty and multiaccounting.
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