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Topic: Do you remember when Twitch banned gambling? Now they allow nudity! (Read 380 times)

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It's the mindset of the owners of Twitch to make money anyhow possible but to gain fans and users more is the end to this mindset because without the users, the concept and design would be flawed in total.

I don't know the reason for them banning gambling on their site, but allowing the site to accept nudity and even view it without as much as age restrictions is a minus and they must have a good reason which could be they probably can't manage a gambling platform on their site.
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We're stuck in a land of softcore limbo. Twitch, in its quest to be squeaky clean, seems to have traded diversity for blandness. The thinking viewers, tired of the milk-toast content, have skedaddled elsewhere, leaving Twitch feeling like a one-trick pony with a broken saddle.

It's like a missed touchdown, a dropped mic, a faceplant in the face of potential. Twitch had the chance to be a platform that championed both creativity and responsibility, but they opted for the safe route, the crowd-pleaser, the "no thinking required" approach. Now they're left with a bunch of alienated viewers and a platform that feels more like a lukewarm bath than a hot tub of innovation.

So, the question is, can Twitch redeem itself? Can they find the sweet spot between content control and artistic freedom? Can they build a platform that caters to a wider range of interests without sacrificing viewer safety? These are the burning questions that need answers if Twitch wants to get back in the game, reclaim its crown as a truly impactful force in the online entertainment arena. It's time to ditch the clown shoes, pick up the juggling pins with some nuance, and show the world they can handle the heat, not just the lukewarm.
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Well, these things actually don't Surprise me, it's obvious that on Twitch they want to do whatever it takes to get their income back, it's not a Lie that they are noLonger like they were Before , the fact of having eliminated the option that you can Allow it of the games , casinos and all this, well, something that the sinvgresos are not the ones Alleged , perhaps with this nudity and getting into the side that is art and all that, well it is basically to have more Clients and so that the platform does not die, it sounds harsh as this is , but when a Platform like this stops receiving the income that they unfortunately had, it is something to worry about , because we are People who sometimes eat , with the eyes and what we see we want, So since these things are what we might like , who doesn't like to see women who show a little more than normal ? to many , on the basis that in the World the best Advertising and that gives the most favorable Results is what is sold as Sex.

This at the time of agreeing to sexualize the platforms is because they are really desperate for them to want to have this type of access to the media, there are many platforms that compete with this, like Only Fans, so these things are not so bad because they see Think about it from the point of view of the Quality of the competitor they have, because some Weights won't last long if it will catch their Attention, but on a personal level these Types of things may cause curiosity but this is already very easy. so that they can have the maximum Audience again, the maximum Community, because things are very unreal like this, this drama I believe that not even putting the casinos back would they have confidence in them again, it is something Almost Impossible , because nothing like that is done, You have to be very Emphatic to do Things well and this Platform may have some gluins that they missed and that is that given the way they did it , it Seemed good, now they don't have a way to bring in more People.
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They got quite a bit of pushback from that decision and it was ridiculous, but I can understand why they did it.  Amazon has been paying for Twitch to lose money forever now.  Even the streamers wouldn't make any money if it weren't for Amazon's free subscription monthly with their customers prime accounts.  They now seem to be grasping at straws looking for profitability, which they may never find.  Microsoft may have been smart to ditch Mixer and let Amazon (and now Stake with their Kick investment) carry the industry by dumping money at unprofitable services until the industry can become more established.
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Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content
I say it's just weird, they banned gambling because of "potential harm" it may cause, then allowed nudity for what? For more pleasure in the eye? I guess both of this can harm someone's self and other person when excessive thing  is done. Well, it's true having nudity content means more viewers lol.

Seems like one if the reason why they allow this artistic nudity content is to get some viewers and user, which is they can also get it if they didn't banned gambling discussions in their sites, I don't have any idea about their basis why this nudity is allowed but maybe majority has been requested for It or maybe they are really a fan of Artistic representation.
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Twitch girls who use sexuality to attract viewers are always looking to push the boundaries of what is permissible. It's not just a problem for Twitch but every social media platform has people who misuse the platform in order to drive traffic to their Onlyfans. It's an awful trend that ruins these websites for some people. When platforms try to put some limits and eventually someone gets suspended there will be cries of censorship and sexism. It's a difficult position for them to be in because these controversial streamers generate revenue so banning them entirely might not be in their best interest.
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Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content
I say it's just weird, they banned gambling because of "potential harm" it may cause, then allowed nudity for what? For more pleasure in the eye? I guess both of this can harm someone's self and other person when excessive thing  is done. Well, it's true having nudity content means more viewers lol.
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Very easy, sex is very profitable.  Companies tend to look the other way when something becomes highly profitable for them.  Engagement on gambling probably didn't net them more views whereas nudity will.  Not that I agree with it but that's how capitalism usually works.  As long as there is money in it, it will be allowed

This will be a cash cow for this platform. That's a profitable move from them.
But it means, this medium needs parental guidance already, if not yet enforced.
That's business, so as long as the site is paying their dues, I believe authorities are looking the other way.
Or there are no complaints yet from the public, they will exhaust this business to get as much as they can here.
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Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?
For me, I think the ban of Gambling activities which took effect last year was an indirect fight on Crypto by the U.S government,, and not just Twitch alone, because how will a platform which prohibited live-streaming of Gambling activities/sites which used Crypto for gambling, simply because it was said to protect it's users from harm, now accept/allow live-streaming of nudity, if only it's purpose was not to eradicate streamers promoting Bitcoin to a larger community. Because though those sites may not have been said to to be licensed by the U.S government as shown below, by why not regulate it instead of banning, if it's aim was not to exclude Crypto?

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Twitch said it is planning to ban the streaming of certain crypto gambling websites in an effort to protect users from potential harm.The ban will prohibit streaming of sites including slots, roulette and dice websites that aren't licensed in the U.S. or "other jurisdictions that provide sufficient consumer protection". It said the ban takes effect Oct. 18th, 2022.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/21/twitch-announces-ban-on-unlicensed-gambling-livestreams-after-backlash-.html
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Very easy, sex is very profitable.  Companies tend to look the other way when something becomes highly profitable for them.  Engagement on gambling probably didn't net them more views whereas nudity will.  Not that I agree with it but that's how capitalism usually works.  As long as there is money in it, it will be allowed
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Obviously the whole "we want to make this site safe for families" is just an excuse and a lie. I think they were just afraid of getting into legal trouble and had to cover their tracks. Something obviously happened or some regulations changed for them to become so spooked.

And to be honest, that is completely understandable. If I was the CEO of some streaming site, I would cut out anything which would make me legally liable.

Gambling streams have a lot of bad actors like scammers, underage children and bad financial advisers.

But there are other streaming sites that do not ban gambling, so it is really anybodies guess as to what is happening. It may have been an arbitrary decision by the owners and nothing more.
Better safe than sorry kind of mindset,eh?

It would really be just that normal for an owner to be thinking up this way and its true that whenever you are getting involved on things or business that have those big amount ins and outs then
sooner or later there might be some issues that might be thrown off and this is something where these owners would really be thinking. Therefore, on the time that they do saw those kind of
probability then this is the time that they would be banning or removing it out. Speaking about being an alibi for it to be a family friendly then with the current issues or topic
that we do have now then it do really proves out that it was really just indeed an alibi.  Grin

Banning Gambling but allowing Nudity? Totally that opposite.. Checking out above on written or mentioned above that it was revoked or
cancel it out. Seems like that there's tons who do make out such complaint.
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Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Here we can see the double standards of Twitch's developers. Gambling was condemned as something outrageous, but nudity is fine as family friendly content...

Why do you think gambling has been being treated in a different manner by Twitch?

Twitch revamps rules on sexual content

Obviously the whole "we want to make this site safe for families" is just an excuse and a lie. I think they were just afraid of getting into legal trouble and had to cover their tracks. Something obviously happened or some regulations changed for them to become so spooked.

And to be honest, that is completely understandable. If I was the CEO of some streaming site, I would cut out anything which would make me legally liable.

Gambling streams have a lot of bad actors like scammers, underage children and bad financial advisers.

But there are other streaming sites that do not ban gambling, so it is really anybodies guess as to what is happening. It may have been an arbitrary decision by the owners and nothing more.
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This shows that there are set of organizations that can not do without Gambling, even if they don't gamble, at least they might be making some good profits from it anyway.
It's boring to not gamble, even if one is gambling for profit making, he or she can not feel the vibes of someone who have been a gambler for sometimes, gambling can not take advantage of a gambler unless the gambler decides to create a room for gamble to take advantage of him or her, what I am trying to say is that only an addicted gambler might think that it is wring to know be involve in anything that has to do with gambling.
Gambling is fun but not for fun Roll Eyes so, if one thinks that it is bad to even know about or what gamble is all about them such person is apparently wrong.
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Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Shame on those who think that gambling is what will mislead the people from being responsible in life and shift their focus on concentrating on what is important to their lives, many have castigated gambling for the past and now allow for the worst which is nudity, in life, we sometimes create time for the less important things leaving the most important ones behind because we loosed focus along the way forgetting that no one is perfect in life, these same people fighting against gambling and now watching their children doing it and also paving way for immoralities which is worst than gambling.
Well, exposure is the root cause of those problems. We cannot do anything from people who negatively views this industry with terminologies and such. Indeed it is not gambling which pushes a gambler to go all out but the gambler's emotion. However, self-discipline does not take place in a single instance and there should be still a learning procedures which contributes to the negative outcome. Problem only is that gambling industry;wherein there are people who negatively views crypto and gambling investments. Same with platforms wherein they tend to agree with what's mainstream.

Quite unfair also with the platforms.they are sometimes too selective on which one should be promoted or shown to daty.
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For Twitch, having nudity on their platform is far more acceptable than gambling. It's laughable how certain apps make every effort to prevent users from uploading nude content, whereas Twitch welcomes it with open arms. Is that not strange?

This move by Twitch to censor gambling and tolerate nudity raises concerns about why they would want to do such things, as if it won't undoubtedly ruin the minds of future generations as they keep getting access to it
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Not a long time ago, we had a lot of news and discussions on this forum about Twitch platform censoring gambling lives and content, due to their decision to keep the social media "family friendly".

Ironically, now artistic nudity is allowed (And who is going to define the limit between what is artistic and what is pornography?)!

Shame on those who think that gambling is what will mislead the people from being responsible in life and shift their focus on concentrating on what is important to their lives, many have castigated gambling for the past and now allow for the worst which is nudity, in life, we sometimes create time for the less important things leaving the most important ones behind because we loosed focus along the way forgetting that no one is perfect in life, these same people fighting against gambling and now watching their children doing it and also paving way for immoralities which is worst than gambling.
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It's banned now as well, they tried something but they knew that it would cause trouble and just wanted to see how it would go, and now that it's gone, we ended up with them banning it yet again as well. It was always a bad decision, but they wanted to see what kind of bad it would be, like would it be ok to just keep it going that way or would it be way too much, and it was way more than what they assumed so they banned it.

Gambling being banned on twitch is not a bad idea by the way, I am still supporting it, there are way too many underage people at twitch and you do not know if the yare watching gamblers or not, to be fair they can watch gamblers even at youtube, so it is not like we are hiding it, but we should try our best to not promote gambling to underage people.
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Twitch U-turns on 'artistic nudity' policy
Twitch’s ‘artistic nudity’ policy rolled back days after it was introduced

When the masses would really be that opposing such decisions then they would normally that reverting on the things that they've been planning to do.
Of course they would really be mindful about peoples feedbacks and opinions and if they do saw that it would be that negative then they would
really just simply revert it back.

We can say that it is a smart move rather than on trying out to enforce those things but ended up on having those forever non good feeling
towards the company and this isnt something good for them on any angle. So they did the right call i should say or something
that would really be just that normal.
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It's banned now as well, they tried something but they knew that it would cause trouble and just wanted to see how it would go, and now that it's gone, we ended up with them banning it yet again as well. It was always a bad decision, but they wanted to see what kind of bad it would be, like would it be ok to just keep it going that way or would it be way too much, and it was way more than what they assumed so they banned it.
It's true, accordingly to news, a day later the approval of the new policy, they already regret about it and went back on their decision. Tongue

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However, there also was a great deal of new content that was allowed under the updated policy. Much of the content created has been met with community concern. These are concerns we share. Upon reflection, we have decided that we went too far with this change. Digital depictions of nudity present a unique challenge–AI can be used to create realistic images, and it can be hard to distinguish between digital art and photography.

Twitch Walks Back Ridiculous ‘Artistic Nudity’ Policy One Day After Totally Unpredictable Outcome

I think it's funny the platform blamed on AI for canceling the new policy, as the main issue here was the fact it's hard to distinguish between photography and generated AI image. It actually doesn't make any difference. The real point which made total difference was the heavy backlash they suffered from every directions. Public opinion was totally against Twitch's new policy, and they concluded there was no logical reasoning to support nudity on the platform at same time they want to promote it as a family friendly environment for teenagers.

They must have thought: let's blame the failure of the policy on the AIs, move ahead and forget about this matter, for our own good, before more backlashes and inconsistencies come up against us.
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It's banned now as well, they tried something but they knew that it would cause trouble and just wanted to see how it would go, and now that it's gone, we ended up with them banning it yet again as well. It was always a bad decision, but they wanted to see what kind of bad it would be, like would it be ok to just keep it going that way or would it be way too much, and it was way more than what they assumed so they banned it.

Gambling being banned on twitch is not a bad idea by the way, I am still supporting it, there are way too many underage people at twitch and you do not know if the yare watching gamblers or not, to be fair they can watch gamblers even at youtube, so it is not like we are hiding it, but we should try our best to not promote gambling to underage people.
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This is surely a double standard by twitch. If they have decided to allow artistic nudity is same as pornography because those are going to be explicit pictures running in the mind of people including children. Nudity and gambling are suppose to be to the exclusive reserve of adults but with such nudity, children are going to be at risk.

To stream art works with naked bodies is only going to corrupt children more and the reason for banning gambling on their platform is more or less defeated.
Last time, I heard/saw someone which states that nudity is a kind of art. While this is my first time hearing the term "artistic nudity" here. I think this is where the nude models are being painted, or their body are being inked. Maybe this is the ones who were allowed, because the audience can't still see the full naked body of the models.

However, in the eyes of others, especially to the gamblers and gambling streamers, who are once removed, and affected in the decision made by Twitch last time to gambling, they aren't happy with it. Twitch only gave them another weapon to attack them more. But as usual, Twitch can only ignore them.
Not really shocking on things that would really be invented, humans do really love on creating something and calling it something but its actually the same.
We are living on a world on having those drastic changes and decisions made into those people or company will really be basing up into their interested. If Twitch had banned gambling but actually
did allow this artistic nudity then it would be their choice but for sure there would be those people who would really be always loving to criticize on whatever the things they've been deciding.
We know that we cant please anyone on which means that there would be  those people who would really be that that always have something to say.
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