Do you still bother to engage non Bitcoiners? - page 8.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 09, 2019, 01:13:49 PM

I'm not convincing even before but I tell on how good bitcoin is. I'm not pushing my friends and even my relatives, I'm just telling them that bitcoin seems to be the future and start of waking up the world about decentralization. I'm aware of those possible scenarios that might happen if I will have a debate with non-believers, they love to mock bitcoin folks since they are also aware of the bulls and crashes that happened. I'm even more keen of focusing within my goal than arguing with any of them.

Its not an easy task to convince anyone who does not accept bitcoin to be the future. Actually i really find it hard because the people are not willing to listen to the arguments and they stick to their thinking. So i do not enforce my opinion and let them think whatever they think about bitcoins and crypto currencies.

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Quote from: Youghoor on May 11, 2019, 05:39:30 PM

Why will you waste your precious time debating and arguing with people who are not ready to learn and understand the benefits associated with the use of Bitcoin and the financial freedom it gives its users? People who do not appreciate new technologies are not worth to be engaged in a debate regarding Bitcoin.

You can't expect people that's new to Bitcoin would like it right away, if given enough time their view on Bitcoin could change..

Also there are people who are eager to learn Bitcoin but could have doubts and maybe confused on the idea.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 04, 2019, 04:46:11 PM

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Are you still embroiled in debates with friends and internet creeps or have you let it slide?

Why will you waste your precious time debating and arguing with people who are not ready to learn and understand the benefits associated with the use of Bitcoin and the financial freedom it gives its users? People who do not appreciate new technologies are not worth to be engaged in a debate regarding Bitcoin.

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Quote from: jbreher on May 11, 2019, 03:03:49 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on May 04, 2019, 04:46:11 PM

Are you still embroiled in debates with friends and internet creeps or have you let it slide?

Yes. But rather than friends or internet creeps, I consider them valued colleagues. And rather than crypto in nature, more so the specific attributes of specific chains. Over on the WO.

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But to your point, debate? No. I stopped arguing with the ignorant years ago. I state my counterpoint and my visions for the horizon one time, and let the rest slide. Genuine questions from them will yield genuine answers. If pressed, I may inform them that I still own way more Bitcoin than I have ever sold. This will either impress them with my earnestness, or dismay them with what they perceive as my irrationality. I don't much care which.

eta: Though if the topic of conversation turns to money, I'm sure to plant a seed. As well as implore anyone I know to have savings to at least spend 20 or so hours studying Bitcoin before dismissing it.

It's not actually a form of debate but more on educating and making them aware of what Bitcoin is all about. Proper education can help them understand the real essence of Bitcoin. I highlighted to them as well of how beneficial and profitable this technology is, but after all it's still up to them to make the final judgement.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 04, 2019, 04:46:11 PM

Are you still embroiled in debates with friends and internet creeps or have you let it slide?

Yes. But rather than friends or internet creeps, I consider them valued colleagues. And rather than crypto in nature, more so the specific attributes of specific chains. Over on the WO.

::zing!::

But to your point, debate? No. I stopped arguing with the ignorant years ago. I state my counterpoint and my visions for the horizon one time, and let the rest slide. Genuine questions from them will yield genuine answers. If pressed, I may inform them that I still own way more Bitcoin than I have ever sold. This will either impress them with my earnestness, or dismay them with what they perceive as my irrationality. I don't much care which.

eta: Though if the topic of conversation turns to money, I'm sure to plant a seed. As well as implore anyone I know to have savings to at least spend 20 or so hours studying Bitcoin before dismissing it.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 09, 2019, 01:13:49 PM

I'm not convincing even before but I tell on how good bitcoin is. I'm not pushing my friends and even my relatives, I'm just telling them that bitcoin seems to be the future and start of waking up the world about decentralization. I'm aware of those possible scenarios that might happen if I will have a debate with non-believers, they love to mock bitcoin folks since they are also aware of the bulls and crashes that happened. I'm even more keen of focusing within my goal than arguing with any of them.

I sound confident when I recommend my friends buying Bitcoin (because I am). 3 of my buddies invested in Bitcoin, and I think that we all will make a profit this year and further, as the crypto will grow.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 04, 2019, 04:46:11 PM

I was perusing another forum today with a long running cryptcurrency thread. To my non amazement they're still debating the nature of the whole thing in the exact same way they were 2-3-4-5 years ago. The same people are waiting to be convinced. The same people are trying to convince them.

This strikes me as a complete and utter waste of calories. I'd rather let people believe what they want. Me convincing them won't help anyone. They're not going to convince me of anything. My attitude is - crypto is here. You may as well sit back and see what happens as nothing I do, say or listen to will change it.

Are you still embroiled in debates with friends and internet creeps or have you let it slide?

if i ever got caught in crypto related topic i do not go embroiled in debates i calmly explained to them
what i know and what they do not know
if they do not need my attention i just chose to let it slide specially if this group of people have selective judgement and close minded in crypto.

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for cases like this it often happens where I convince my relatives and friends about crypto and they joke me. from here I better walk alone

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Quote from: shesheboy on May 09, 2019, 04:15:15 PM

Quote from: livingfree on May 09, 2019, 01:13:49 PM

I'm not convincing even before but I tell on how good bitcoin is.

Telling them how good bitcoin was , is still the same as convincing them to join bitcoin .

In my case no . i am not engaging my self to non bitcoiner people because they wont bother to learn at all because they maybe lack of knowledge or maybe they are only lazy .

No, it isn't the same as convincing.

I tell them the things that I appreciate about bitcoin and it's up to them on how they will extract it. I'm not coming to the point of convincing them that they should also have bitcoin and start investing on it.

And if they are interested to know more, I'm telling them what I know and what I can tell but if no interest showed why do I have to continue talking to them about bitcoin? I'm shifting the conversation into some other topic.

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Quote from: Shenzou on May 09, 2019, 05:28:01 PM

Well obviously many people who you try to convince about bitcoin might get interested and other might not, but the thing is we have to keep trying we have to keep spreading the word because among the poeple who are just gonna ignore you there are a small minority that will join you and that is the way to make the community grow and make the bitcoin progress, and the people who hated on it will see what they are missing like they saw what happend back in 2017 when it reached 20k and people regretted it.

I always experienced this every time i try to reach out to other people to explain more about bitcoin.Some will leave doubts while others give you a positive feedback.But i never stop in sharing words about bitcoin because this might contribute on its mass adoption in the future.I just never give time to those who are non bitcoiners because they will surely stand for it whatever their reasons.

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Well obviously many people who you try to convince about bitcoin might get interested and other might not, but the thing is we have to keep trying we have to keep spreading the word because among the poeple who are just gonna ignore you there are a small minority that will join you and that is the way to make the community grow and make the bitcoin progress, and the people who hated on it will see what they are missing like they saw what happend back in 2017 when it reached 20k and people regretted it.

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Quote from: shesheboy on May 09, 2019, 04:15:15 PM

For now maybe but what about in the future where cash/fiats will slowly be extinct because it will be replaced by cryptos ? For sure people will start to crawl back on cryptocurrencies .

I don't see crypto form a threat to government issued fiat currencies because they are and will remain the most useful and convenient forms of money. All crypto does is add problems instead of solving them.

Sure, crypto is decentralized, which is a great selling feature for us, but who of the average joes care about that? They just want a form of money that works and is stable as per its unit value, and that's what fiat offers.

People are incentivized to hoard/save everything that's scarce, which is Bitcoin, but spend things that aren't, which fiat is part of. I find gold a way better selling feature than Bitcoin being a currency as main selling feature.

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Quote from: bitbunnny on May 09, 2019, 02:26:51 PM

There will always be people who will not support Bitcoin.

For now maybe but what about in the future where cash/fiats will slowly be extinct because it will be replaced by cryptos ? For sure people will start to crawl back on cryptocurrencies .

Quote from: livingfree on May 09, 2019, 01:13:49 PM

I'm not convincing even before but I tell on how good bitcoin is.

Telling them how good bitcoin was , is still the same as convincing them to join bitcoin .

In my case no . i am not engaging my self to non bitcoiner people because they wont bother to learn at all because they maybe lack of knowledge or maybe they are only lazy .

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There will always be people who will not support Bitcoin. It's impossibe to achieve that everybody likes everything and so it's with Bitcoin too. I try to explain people the benefits of Bitcoin and encourage them to try it on their own but I'm not trying to persue anyone.But I still beleive that with time more and more people will embrace Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies the same way they did it with fiat money.

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Bitcoin is the best. There is nothing to add. If you are new to this world then yes you can indulge in altcoins. But then if you try Bitcoin you will never refuse it.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 04, 2019, 04:46:11 PM

I was perusing another forum today with a long running cryptcurrency thread. To my non amazement they're still debating the nature of the whole thing in the exact same way they were 2-3-4-5 years ago. The same people are waiting to be convinced. The same people are trying to convince them.

This strikes me as a complete and utter waste of calories. I'd rather let people believe what they want. Me convincing them won't help anyone. They're not going to convince me of anything. My attitude is - crypto is here. You may as well sit back and see what happens as nothing I do, say or listen to will change it.

Are you still embroiled in debates with friends and internet creeps or have you let it slide?

It will just gonna be like that forever until crypto goes mainstream and world used it for daily transactions.
People who doesn't want to know crypto saying crypto is scam, while we are know the truth annoyed by them.
So, me right now is not arguing with those kind of people anymore Cheesy

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I'm not convincing even before but I tell on how good bitcoin is. I'm not pushing my friends and even my relatives, I'm just telling them that bitcoin seems to be the future and start of waking up the world about decentralization. I'm aware of those possible scenarios that might happen if I will have a debate with non-believers, they love to mock bitcoin folks since they are also aware of the bulls and crashes that happened. I'm even more keen of focusing within my goal than arguing with any of them.

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Quote from: De4ted on May 09, 2019, 06:30:45 AM

Arguing on non-believers is just a waste of time, sharing information about bitcoin or crypto is worthy.

Those who are not believing and dont want to are people that is close minded and doesnt want a change on their lives trust me you cant win on debating them.

Thus, it is good to be open and share your experiences on bitcoin or cryptocurrency. There are bad and good experience that we encounter in here dont be afraid to share both of it, if someone wants to be involve into cryptocurrency they must be willing to take the risk.

Yes. There's no point trying to win in a debate with non-believers because they will surely want their own ideas to prevail. So it's just a waste of your time. I really think if a person wants to pursue on something, he will definitely find ways on how to get there and not just relying on other's ideas.

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Arguing on non-believers is just a waste of time, sharing information about bitcoin or crypto is worthy.

Those who are not believing and dont want to are people that is close minded and doesnt want a change on their lives trust me you cant win on debating them.

Thus, it is good to be open and share your experiences on bitcoin or cryptocurrency. There are bad and good experience that we encounter in here dont be afraid to share both of it, if someone wants to be involve into cryptocurrency they must be willing to take the risk.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on May 04, 2019, 10:38:35 PM

Which non-bitcoiners? Altcoiners or common people?
For altcoiners, I still engage in the discussion on why they should put more weight in bitcoin, not altcoin. However, for the people outside of the cryptocurrency community, I do not want to shill them into buying bitcoin since it is a high-risk investment. I only explain about the technology when they ask me about it.

For me I don't want to engage people who bothered Bitcoin because we can't convince it easilly to the people. We notice that some people can believedof what they are saying especially to the negative thoughts of their mind so we cannot blame it of the people bothered Bitcoiners.

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