Topic: Do you think Ether can overcome Bitcoin (Read 1852 times)

Good way to see a bit is to join #Ethereum on freenode and ask a question. Then do same and join #monero on Freenode and ask a question there.

You will see the huge difference.

And sort of should be opposite since Monero is opensource without any founds collected to make it happen.

I am one of the longest supporters of Ethereum as well as Gavin Wood and Vitalik, but they can never ever replace Bitcoin nor was the objective of Ethereum to replace BTC.

BTC is fine at this moment in time, shady clusterfucks like NXT can't replace it, more transparent projects like Ethereum neither. BTC will be own and run by central banks, big banks and the government very soon, but that is another entirely different story.

Pros
1 - It works.  And the devs work on the entire ecosystem.  Eth mining was easier and more consistent than LTC mining ever was from day 1 for me.  I was able to sync the entire blockchain from scratch in 20 minutes.  They are slow to release software (just now doing gui wallet).  But when it's released it generally works well. 
2 - Smart contracts.  Will allow things like betting, bond issuancem insurance, pegged currencies & decentralized exchanges on blockchain.  Not only is it theoretically possible - Augur has raised millions for on chain betting.  And (claim) they are going to do it right.
3 - Premine.  Which most people hate and I sit on the fence about all the time.  Since they raised an obscene amount of money (effectively taking the first three years of mining and selling it to investors - then adding more on top of that to donate to talent) it was able to fund itself with more actual programmers than most cryptos have.
(https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/41u7m6/r3_connects_11_banks_to_distributed_ledger_using/)
4 - Scalability is in the works using PoS.  Coming from the guys who got the PoW blocktimes down to 15 seconds I think there's a lot of optimism that this could lead down the path of the type of transaction speed and volume needed for reputation systems, gambling platforms, decentralized exchanges, etc.
5 - Endorements from heavyweights.  IBM used it at CES for IoT demo.  R3 is forking it to run some PoC things with banking.  Nick Snazboo is on their board of advisors.  One of the first platforms Azure added to it's on demand blockchain apps.

There are some MASSIVE problems with Eth.  But honestly if you don't find much interesting about Ethereum then you haven't been paying much attention.

this get rich quick coin Etheruim have no adoption and have no voice outside of whales and shark circles. it's going to be dead on the spot whenever their platform is released, if they ever have a stable working one. it's buy on hype and dump on platform release deal. there will always another Etheruim without the get rich quick premined, chance someone or group are coding right now as hobby without the get rich quick deal. the legendary bitcoin can't be replace as it's already established but scam like Etherium come and go, ibm coin, bank of china coin, chase coin...

l don't know what so special people finding in ETHER?
i see a lot of investors trying to get more publicity attacking bitcoin..
If you believe in your project do marketing.
I'm so tired hearing those nonsense,  ether is better , will kill bitcoin and so on..

Wrong.  The cat is out of the bag.  Even if BTC dies, other cryptocurrencies, big and small, will always be around.

Ethereum will be number 2 marketcap coin before the end of february.

Who knows but that is very difficult!
Maybe if bitcoin disappear..

He works for the banks. That is public already.
There is no proof, that he did his post, because of them, right. But is there any proof that its not?

IMO the only way an altcoin will surpass bitcoin, is if bitcoins development was to just one day stop. As long as bitcoin continues to improve with the other altcoins I feel it will remain number 1. Way too much time and money has been invested in bitcoin for it to just die overnight. A lot of money would have to be invested in an altcoin with teams and teams of developers putting out new content on a weekly basis for anything to surpass bitcoin.

LoL. That's something I'll be surprised with. Then you must also believe that Hearn has been bought by the banks?

realizing that the form proposed by the man and his vision of the future of Finance and how this form came to mind, as a form and as a directional vector and more, but the capacity of diversity and that one could not contain all conceived and that success will have a different shape and that the only decision for adoption and just form of looking ahead, of course, and Ether, and other similar coins can be having the chance to succeed and that the wording in the responsibility for quality and fun product

Yah, especially since kwuckduck and other freshly created accounts posts crashing and burning posts

I wouldn't be surprised, if those guys were payed for fud by the banks...

Kwuckduck is a sold account, in addition a well known BTC shorter. Of course he posts a new doomsday thread every day .

According to the mass media Bitcoin is constantly dying since the beginning. When it isn't, then it's a soon to be burst "Internet phenomenon" .

Monero is a good coin but at this moment it's more like a "niche coin" for a specific group of users than something for Average Joe. ETH is pretty much the same but for different applications and for a different target group. Bitcoin is something more generic however it's a bit rudimentary, slow and outdated if you compare it to these newer coins. Sooner or later an other coin will overtake it but that's not going to happen very soon. Don't forget that BTC is still a cutting edge technology in the outside world, and probably we are the only people who see it as a vintage stuff .

Oh please!, visit the speculation thread

or check the kwuckduck account, he literally posts a doomsday thread about bitcoin.

If the bitcoin system stays intact it will NEVER go to 0, before that I will by all...
And there will always be some people, who want to own it, because its the first of its kind and very popular.
You can compare that with old stamps. For example the "market cap" of the first stamp, Penny Black (very old, but still), is interestingly about the current market cap of bitcoin. (http://www.stampcollectingblog.com/which-stamps-are-worth-money.php)
All those stamps have literally NO worth, you can just collect them, nothing more.
Noone, who doesn't collect, will accept it as a payment, because he doesn't know it.
Can you imagine bitcoin ever being less worth than such stamps? Ridiculous...

@topic
Ethereum may surpass bitcoin or not. Depends on the marketing. This is kind of a war...
But it will have a very hard time, thats for sure. I personally think, it won't... although I am invested.

Ethereum is good alternative coin but i don’t think any alternative coin will overcome bitcoin soon because of many factors bitcoin has that you will never find in any other alternative coin .

No legendary has said here that bitcoin is dying. Please read the posts carefully so you actually understand them before answering.