Topic: Do you think online casinos can effectively prevent underage gambling? (Read 125 times)
July 14, 2020, 03:48:19 PM
the friend of your cousin is a kid ? why he would believe on a kid , when we knew that kids can lie at all times unless he shows a legit proof that he really won and you said the site dont ask a kyc but why they need kyc validation and need bank statements , etc . the site is faulty if they require a kyc but without photo included because a real working site always ask for pics of your self aside from the pics of your id's . kids only want to have fun so i wont worry that they can get addicted , they still have many time to grow up and correct thier wrong doings
July 14, 2020, 03:47:32 PM
I was shocked the other day, when my cousin told me about a friend of his that won a significant amount of money on a Crypto currency online gambling site. The site is not regulated and they also did not ask for KYC documentation to process his withdrawal.
It is easy enough for these kids to use their parents ID and Bank statements to register for KYC validation on these sites, because they do not ask for photos of that person with his documentation when you register a new user.
This will never happen with Brick n Mortar casinos, because the adult is matched with his ID Document.
How can we make sure that kids are not exposed to gambling at a very early stage, when they might not be ready to deal with the consequences? Gambling addiction is not a joke and these kids might turn to criminal actions to fund their gambling addiction.
Let's brainstorm.
It is easy enough for these kids to use their parents ID and Bank statements to register for KYC validation on these sites, because they do not ask for photos of that person with his documentation when you register a new user.
This will never happen with Brick n Mortar casinos, because the adult is matched with his ID Document.
How can we make sure that kids are not exposed to gambling at a very early stage, when they might not be ready to deal with the consequences? Gambling addiction is not a joke and these kids might turn to criminal actions to fund their gambling addiction.
Let's brainstorm.
Theres no other way but this one will matter much on parenting issues, if you do explain to them well on how gambling do mess up someones life then they might realize that they are doing wrong at very early age.
It cant really be stopped as long he does have access to internet specially now that crypto gambling sites do exist where KYC doesnt really ask that much.This had been a typical situation not only happening to crypto but also in fiat itself.
One thing is also to lock up all of your documents out of his reach or even your ID's etc.
July 14, 2020, 03:19:39 PM
I hate the idea of government babysitting people.
Kids play can't play in casinos because government thinks they know what is good for them. If the kid got money, probably that's because he father gave it to them. Let them play whatever they want.
No KYC is amazing for freedom.
So, you would like if your 12 year children would start to gamble online and get addiction to gambling? I also don't like government control and KYC, but I don't think children should gamble when they got money from parents. At least until they reach certain age, something like 16, when they are clever enough to understand all risks.Kids play can't play in casinos because government thinks they know what is good for them. If the kid got money, probably that's because he father gave it to them. Let them play whatever they want.
No KYC is amazing for freedom.
Nevertheless, I don't think if gambling will provide fully KCY in the future because of this problem but still gambling anonymously has been a good favor to us as a gambler.
July 14, 2020, 03:10:19 PM
If parents are truly concerned about this...
Did you as a child want to tell your parents about everything you were doing when you were that age - your first kiss, smoke, drink, drugs - whatever it was there was always something you kept from your parents. Youth today have a mobile phone from their early teens (sometimes younger) they'll get and share apps with their friends at school, so you have no way of knowing whether or not they are chatting, gambling or anything else with strangers online. Online safety begins at home, yes Casino's (if they are registered in a jurisdiction) will have an obligation to put up warnings, but can't be expected to do the parents job for them.
We have the same thought. The picture I'm trying to say is, things like gambling is unavoidable. Just look at how that kid performs a crypto transaction coming from a crypto-wallet to the gambling site and withdraw it back. That kid has the knowledge and maybe there are other things that his parents don't know.
Now for the part wherein if parents are concerned about that, it depends on the family. There are families that talked about that, some didn't, like in my case. My parents didn't know my gambling stuff during my young days. I just answered the question "How can we make sure that kids are not exposed to gambling at a very early stage" in general. The question that doesn't have a definitive answer.
July 14, 2020, 02:48:06 PM
I don't think that online casinos can prevent children from gambling. If someone really want to gamble, he will find ways to do it. I also was underage when I first time registered on sportsbooks and I didn't had any issues. As you said, they simply can use their parents documents and bank statements. They also can change their birthdate on ID card using photoshop (though, this can be considered as crime?. Finally, they simply can buy KYC verified account. There is no effective way to prevent from it.
Did you as a child want to tell your parents about everything you were doing when you were that age - your first kiss, smoke, drink, drugs - whatever it was there was always something you kept from your parents. Youth today have a mobile phone from their early teens (sometimes younger) they'll get and share apps with their friends at school, so you have no way of knowing whether or not they are chatting, gambling or anything else with strangers online. Online safety begins at home, yes Casino's (if they are registered in a jurisdiction) will have an obligation to put up warnings, but can't be expected to do the parents job for them.
Oh yes, I don't think that parents should track every step of their children online. They aren't adults, but they have right for privacy after all. I wouldn't like if my parents would have tried to track what I do online or what I do when I meet friends. They rather should educate children about potential dangers, including gambling.I hate the idea of government babysitting people.
Kids play can't play in casinos because government thinks they know what is good for them. If the kid got money, probably that's because he father gave it to them. Let them play whatever they want.
No KYC is amazing for freedom.
So, you would like if your 12 year children would start to gamble online and get addiction to gambling? I also don't like government control and KYC, but I don't think children should gamble when they got money from parents. At least until they reach certain age, something like 16, when they are clever enough to understand all risks. Kids play can't play in casinos because government thinks they know what is good for them. If the kid got money, probably that's because he father gave it to them. Let them play whatever they want.
No KYC is amazing for freedom.
July 14, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
Not only the gambling industry business that the kid must be warned on internet activity due to the age limit.
There are p*rn sites and also mobile games that can distract the future of the kid, I don't think that is the responsibility of gambling owners to if there's is someone who bypasses credentials even it s under age just to play gamble.
Absolutely right, this was the disadvantage of the anonymous gambling site that did not disclose your identity. Even underage users can able to access the site without any parental consent.
There are p*rn sites and also mobile games that can distract the future of the kid, I don't think that is the responsibility of gambling owners to if there's is someone who bypasses credentials even it s under age just to play gamble.
Absolutely right, this was the disadvantage of the anonymous gambling site that did not disclose your identity. Even underage users can able to access the site without any parental consent.
July 14, 2020, 02:39:03 PM
In case of winning big amounts with one strike, the parents will be proud of that kid and the underage problem will not be actual in reality. In theory, yeah, everything is almost near the perfect with "do" or "don't do" analogies. Mothers have to be double careful if they have caught browsing the non-appropriate websites included gambling sites. Generally, casinos apply KYC rules for credit card deposits and this prevents kids to use this funding option.
July 14, 2020, 02:34:02 PM
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This is why the role of parents is very important in supervising their children...incidents where minors play online gambling is not new, I once went to an internet cafe when I was in high school, there I saw a lot of children playing online gambling, I couldn't forbid them because they didn't have the right to do it, I think only their parents can manage their children.
You'd only shame them in that case. I still think that when kids start gambling, they already think they are not kids and it should be their parents that will just do whatever is needed.
As for Casinos, I like it not to ask for KYC still. We're the ones who enjoy this type of anonymity right now, I hope all will do till the end of time. If my kid plays on online casinos then I guess its my job to just monitor and tell him its not his time yet and hes not gonna get a dime from me if he continues.
July 14, 2020, 02:26:26 PM
How can we make sure that kids are not exposed to gambling at a very early stage, when they might not be ready to deal with the consequences? Gambling addiction is not a joke and these kids might turn to criminal actions to fund their gambling addiction.
I hate the idea of government babysitting people.
Kids play can't play in casinos because government thinks they know what is good for them. If the kid got money, probably that's because he father gave it to them. Let them play whatever they want.
No KYC is amazing for freedom.
Casinos would never implement KYC verification because they are earning most of their money from these minors who are much easily attracted by gambling and the concept of free money but it is the duty of the care taker for the child to make sure he is not being trapped into any illegal means and really there is literally no way you can expect casinos to cut their profits, I mean why would they?
July 14, 2020, 02:20:49 PM
I don't think online casinos can ever tackle the problem on underage gambling effectively. There isn't really much that they can do about it even if they require aggressive KYC before anyone can play in their platform. Most casinos won't bother; they'd likely allow some people to bypass KYC rules and make them a mainstay on the casino rather than lose customers due to their way of 'upholding' what most people think is right.
The problem isn't in the casinos' way of doing things on their turf; it's from those rebel kids who wanted to get a taste of what they think is 'fun' at an early age. Let them have the losses and let them have the lessons early on in life, I say.
The problem isn't in the casinos' way of doing things on their turf; it's from those rebel kids who wanted to get a taste of what they think is 'fun' at an early age. Let them have the losses and let them have the lessons early on in life, I say.
July 14, 2020, 02:16:20 PM
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This is why the role of parents is very important in supervising their children...incidents where minors play online gambling is not new, I once went to an internet cafe when I was in high school, there I saw a lot of children playing online gambling, I couldn't forbid them because they didn't have the right to do it, I think only their parents can manage their children.
July 14, 2020, 02:16:06 PM
The disadvantage of anonymous casinos...
There is a need to keep control over kid's internet activity in all conditions, this is true for all types of potential dangerous cases. 18+ websites, torture videos(liveleak), and gambling platforms can affect the psychology of underage users. Using special anonymizing software is easy nowadays, that is why having a DNS protection or VPN block feature is necessary.
There is a need to keep control over kid's internet activity in all conditions, this is true for all types of potential dangerous cases. 18+ websites, torture videos(liveleak), and gambling platforms can affect the psychology of underage users. Using special anonymizing software is easy nowadays, that is why having a DNS protection or VPN block feature is necessary.
July 14, 2020, 02:04:52 PM
There are 2 main ways I think this can be prevented.
1- Monitor your kid's online activities because you should know what your kids are doing online and if you don't care to check the records of their surfing then why should the casino care to ask KYC.
2- Casinos need to ask identity from random players to make sure that the players are at least over 18 years or the required age of gambling in respective countries. I mean maybe the casinos can avoid asking for ID verification and address verification but at least take responsibility and ask for age confirmation or some kind of proof that they are 18 maybe even a small mobile verification can stop kids.
1- Monitor your kid's online activities because you should know what your kids are doing online and if you don't care to check the records of their surfing then why should the casino care to ask KYC.
2- Casinos need to ask identity from random players to make sure that the players are at least over 18 years or the required age of gambling in respective countries. I mean maybe the casinos can avoid asking for ID verification and address verification but at least take responsibility and ask for age confirmation or some kind of proof that they are 18 maybe even a small mobile verification can stop kids.
July 14, 2020, 01:56:22 PM
How can we make sure that kids are not exposed to gambling at a very early stage
The casinos can't do anything, whatever they do, can easily be bypassed, it's the same for mature websites you have to click "Yes I'm 18+" to continue using the site, can that stop anyone who's below that age from proceeding, they would simply click on it, and to be fair, the website have done their own part.As for gambling in this case, I believe interacting with the kid at an early age about it is prolly the best shot in curbing the addiction. There are alot of things parents do not talk to their children about, they end up learning it outside, from their peers and with obviously no control. So if parents teach their children at a very tender age on what gambling is all about and the cons involved, plus when the time will be right for then to try it out if they wish, then it could be effective.
July 14, 2020, 01:52:04 PM
BTW, I ever made a thread about the age restriction for playing gambling. Check it here and you may find new wow news.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53962700
Don't bother people - it's a locked thread.
July 14, 2020, 01:50:03 PM
Well, yeah, gambling is now concerned with an age restriction. many kids are now trying to get entered in this gambling world, moreover, there is likely no gap for the online gambling sites. they can access it easily via internet connection. And about it, I think that the parent's role is very important whether they will restrict their kids to play gambling or not. Or they will give certain rules or age restrictions or not.
About the gambling sites that are not restricted enough for the YC, I think that yeah it is normal. Some of them are not a problem with what users they have, they only focus on the traffic and also user activities. But of course, some of other online gambling sites still concern about it and restrict the kinds underage.
BTW, I ever made a thread about the age restriction for playing gambling. Check it here and you may find new wow news.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53962700
About the gambling sites that are not restricted enough for the YC, I think that yeah it is normal. Some of them are not a problem with what users they have, they only focus on the traffic and also user activities. But of course, some of other online gambling sites still concern about it and restrict the kinds underage.
BTW, I ever made a thread about the age restriction for playing gambling. Check it here and you may find new wow news.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53962700
July 14, 2020, 01:44:59 PM
Kids will not gonna play gambling games unless someone teaches them how to play. It always starts with how good are the parents of parenting their child/children even if you say they might still learn it from their friends in school.
A KYC for every gamblers is needed especially in online casino but if you are not fond of KYC thing then it is the parents job to watch their kids when using the computer. And also there are application that could block websites that has a parental controls or record what was the kids been doing.
Online casinos on the other hand could do the necessary precaution they could do to stop kids from playing gambling only if they provide a KYC verification for every users.
A KYC for every gamblers is needed especially in online casino but if you are not fond of KYC thing then it is the parents job to watch their kids when using the computer. And also there are application that could block websites that has a parental controls or record what was the kids been doing.
Online casinos on the other hand could do the necessary precaution they could do to stop kids from playing gambling only if they provide a KYC verification for every users.
July 14, 2020, 01:35:20 PM
If parents are truly concerned about this...
Did you as a child want to tell your parents about everything you were doing when you were that age - your first kiss, smoke, drink, drugs - whatever it was there was always something you kept from your parents. Youth today have a mobile phone from their early teens (sometimes younger) they'll get and share apps with their friends at school, so you have no way of knowing whether or not they are chatting, gambling or anything else with strangers online. Online safety begins at home, yes Casino's (if they are registered in a jurisdiction) will have an obligation to put up warnings, but can't be expected to do the parents job for them.
July 14, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
How can we make sure that kids are not exposed to gambling at a very early stage, when they might not be ready to deal with the consequences? Gambling addiction is not a joke and these kids might turn to criminal actions to fund their gambling addiction.
The fact that the kid was able to understand how to play in a crypto-casino means it's always possible that the kid can't be exposed to gambling at an early age. That kid able to fund his online casino account so in here, he got accessed to whatever crypto-wallet he used and has knowledge about it.
If parents are truly concerned about this, talk to their child about the risks of doing gambling, even they don't know their kids are already involved with it. Somehow, if things got worst, they will able to notice that as a parent.
July 14, 2020, 01:28:48 PM
Not without KYC. Even then the checks and balances in place may not be tight enough, they could simply be an email and phone number.
Most people want to be able to chance upon an online Casino, have a few rolls and decide if they wnt to keep playing, if not they move on without having to go through the whole KYC process and that's the rub.
Most people want to be able to chance upon an online Casino, have a few rolls and decide if they wnt to keep playing, if not they move on without having to go through the whole KYC process and that's the rub.
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