Topic: Do you think Satoshi every created some sort of back door to alter BTC? (Read 236 times)
February 19, 2023, 06:41:34 PM
I don't think satoshi will leave something like that before disappearing. If ever satoshi planted something like that, It would have been exploited already given that the price jumps up and it is open source. I believe that satoshi wouldn't risk the amount of work he put by doing something foolish like this. If somehow satoshi is after the money, I believe that it would be more easy for him to open his wallets which has a stack of BTC waiting for him to be used. It's not that worthy doing his best and alter bitcoin.
February 19, 2023, 02:59:51 PM
I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
Your fears are groundless.
The fact is that so many people would never believe in Bitcoin if its code was unavailable for viewing. Nevertheless, the full project code is posted on github. Programmers of C++, Python and other programming languages have studied every line, thanks to this, understanding how to make other cryptocurrencies has become easier!
Therefore, Satoshi is not an attacker, and of course, cannot seize control of Bitcoin.
I guess the only thing that could stop it in the future is like this crazy powerful AI that can hack all the computers using bitcoin core all at once to change something? Even that sounds farfetched, but I suppose something like that could happen. Hmmmm now im curious what it would take for that to actually become reality.
February 19, 2023, 10:39:03 AM
I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
Your question is confusing but I got what you meant by other others forum members. It is impossible to have a back door, since Satoshi made it an open source project where nobody can manipulate it.It is only the centralized system, which are closed source that can be manipulated due to the third party involved. Bitcoin is different, and the network cant be controlled,that is why it has survived since Satoshi launched it till date
February 19, 2023, 10:12:39 AM
to the best of my knowledge from what i've read bitcoin is an open source project, and it's hard to put a backdoor in place. and it cannot be changed and changes anything on the bitcoin blockchain even though it is the founder, because as we know bitcoin has a decentralized network
February 18, 2023, 11:58:46 AM
I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
Your fears are groundless.
The fact is that so many people would never believe in Bitcoin if its code was unavailable for viewing. Nevertheless, the full project code is posted on github. Programmers of C++, Python and other programming languages have studied every line, thanks to this, understanding how to make other cryptocurrencies has become easier!
Therefore, Satoshi is not an attacker, and of course, cannot seize control of Bitcoin.
February 18, 2023, 11:22:06 AM
There’s a lot of update happened on Bitcoin including hard forks so even if Satoshi has that kind of back door initially set on Bitcoin, I’m sure it’s already gone since the code is open source and there’s a lot of impressive developer that saw and review the code thoroughly.
Any imperfections and mistake are easily be spotted since there’s a lot of eyes watching on Bitcoin and anyone can do what Satoshi can since Bitcoin is open source which means Satoshi doesn’t any exclusive privileges over the Bitcoin code anymore once he released it in the public.
Any imperfections and mistake are easily be spotted since there’s a lot of eyes watching on Bitcoin and anyone can do what Satoshi can since Bitcoin is open source which means Satoshi doesn’t any exclusive privileges over the Bitcoin code anymore once he released it in the public.
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February 18, 2023, 11:16:39 AM
Bitcoin is an open-source project, you can read the project too. Satoshi can't change anything in the bitcoin blockchain, can't manipulate a transaction nor can he control the network in any way at present because we all know how decentralized the Bitcoin blockchain is.
Maybe he can have an impact on the Bitcoin price as he is supposed to be holding more than 1 million Bitcoin. If he starts moving fund, the world is going to see the most chaos I think lol.
Maybe he can have an impact on the Bitcoin price as he is supposed to be holding more than 1 million Bitcoin. If he starts moving fund, the world is going to see the most chaos I think lol.
February 18, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
Even if Satoshi has to return to the network today he cannot effectively change anything on his own in the Bitcoin network. I do not understand your question too well but it seems you are asking if Satoshi left some bugs through which he can exploit Bitcoin. I don't think this is possible. Bitcoin is an open source protocol, and if such a bug existed, it would have been discovered and fixed by other developers working in the Bitcoin network. 
February 18, 2023, 08:47:14 AM
It's not as if Bitcoin is closed source. It is not as if Bitcoin is partially open source. Everything with Bitcoin is an open book. Anybody who doubts or wishes to review and check the codes line by line to make sure nothing suspicious is added may do so. And the codes have certainly been put under careful scrutiny by many developers.
Even if Satoshi added certain shady codes at the start, they wouldn't have survived. Anybody could have removed it right away.
Even if Satoshi added certain shady codes at the start, they wouldn't have survived. Anybody could have removed it right away.
February 18, 2023, 08:30:58 AM
I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
Maybe it's just content that can be set up in such a way. But the point is that without any knowledge of Bitcoin if I were in that position I would take the same choice of $100. The reason is quite simple we can use $100 immediately, have physical possession and even at school we have been taught about the value and use of this money. So I won't blame him for not choosing Bitcoin it's just that when a content creator comes to someone who knows the value of Bitcoin and $100 it's clear he will choose Bitcoin. 
February 18, 2023, 07:50:31 AM
It seems that some people think that Satoshi is such a genius that he might have managed to hide a backdoor in a project that is of course open source and has been public since 2009 and no one has managed to notice it until now 
OP, do you have fears that one day Satoshi will appear, dump his 1 million BTC and ride off into the sunset with a few hundred billion $ or maybe even a trillion?
OP, do you have fears that one day Satoshi will appear, dump his 1 million BTC and ride off into the sunset with a few hundred billion $ or maybe even a trillion?
February 18, 2023, 06:59:51 AM
I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
You're trying to bring a suggestion on weather the inventor of bitcoin which is Satoshi has a way he can manipulate things a d change the program to work to his taste since he created bitcoin, but maybe you're yet to understand what it means when it been said that bitcoin nodes where interconnected to each other, which means what you have here is what others will have as well all over the world, which means bitcoin transactions can not be altered, because blockchain is immutable, there's a program set in place that him (Satoshi) can not alter because that have a well structured program and protocol consensus they follows and validate same data with everyone connected to the nodes.
February 18, 2023, 06:45:40 AM
It is rather absurd instead appalling. How many years has Satoshi's code been committed to the codebase? It has been a long time, and back then, when bitcoin was still small, many people, especially those interested in the cryptographic community, were looking at it. They Scrutinized it. Until today, there are many people who already take a look at the code that simply there is no backdoor, in a sense single or multiple entities have direct exposure to alter the bitcoin protocol or network.
In another hand, there is a reason that bitcoin still leads to this date, and has the biggest market capitalization.
In another hand, there is a reason that bitcoin still leads to this date, and has the biggest market capitalization.
February 17, 2023, 07:12:08 PM
If there is a backdoor, it would have been discovered already.
What could be a backdoor is if one day a government just gets thier hands on Satoshi's private key and claim it while the world sees BTC as the reserve just as some influencers are saying that BTC will be the currency reserve. It would be crazy if they knew the PK all along since the beginning of BTC.
It was all planned. The existence of BTC was planned right after the 2008 crisis.
What could be a backdoor is if one day a government just gets thier hands on Satoshi's private key and claim it while the world sees BTC as the reserve just as some influencers are saying that BTC will be the currency reserve. It would be crazy if they knew the PK all along since the beginning of BTC.
It was all planned. The existence of BTC was planned right after the 2008 crisis. 
February 17, 2023, 07:10:13 PM
I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that? If he did do that, what exactly could he/they have the ability to change with so many people constantly maintaining Bitcoin core? If something like that was ever a possibility could BTC core developers reverse any changes made or prevent? I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening. Could they prevent or reverse a 51% attack as well?
There is no chance of this being true since this will require that every single person reviewing the code missed the backdoor or they were somehow coerced to ignore it, now if this is not enough for you then the solution is also easy, you can learn how to code and then check the code yourself, this way you can be completely sure this is the case and there is nothing like this on the code, now if you do not want to do this you will have no option but to trust on the judgment and skill of those which actually went through the problem of doing this. 
February 17, 2023, 06:34:12 PM
I am not sure I am understanding you correctly.
Are you saying that it may be possible that Satoshi can change how bitcoin works? If so, you should know that bitcoin is an open-source project and there is nothing hidden from the people. Satoshi has no control over bitcoin network.
Thats what he meant on which he do assume out that if Satoshi do know something that he could make out some changes if he wanted to and would really be tending to do something like possible reverse transactions or even trying out to access a particular wallet or everything that do really connects out about security.Its true that Bitcoin is an open source and if there's something like this about possible exploits then it had been long time been detected and been fixed out but much sure once this one do pop out then confidence and trust would really be no longer the same before it was been known if ever this one happens.Are you saying that it may be possible that Satoshi can change how bitcoin works? If so, you should know that bitcoin is an open-source project and there is nothing hidden from the people. Satoshi has no control over bitcoin network.
Its better not to make these kind of doubts and assumptions to have no stress.
February 17, 2023, 06:21:12 PM
So, leaving a backdoor for 13 years in an open-source code wouldn't have been the brightest idea, not to mention the blowback when that would have been discovered.
Imagine this would have happened in the first month, everyone would have just dropped the project and never touched it again.
Bitcoin will be a trash project when it does with 1 hole satoshi inserted as a secret entrance.
But in fact that didn't happen, with many contributors starting to develop bitcoin with open source code making bitcoin very well developed which was created by satoshi and managed by the community and used by the wider community.
Bitcoin is decentralized, no one controls it even the creators of bitcoin.
February 17, 2023, 06:15:38 PM
Bitcoin is an open-source project, and it's hard to put a backdoor into an open-source project with thousands of contributors, thousands of interested people, so this is highly unlikely. Backdoors usually happen with some shitcoins that no one cares to audit, or closed-source projects where the owner can do it without anyone knowing.
February 17, 2023, 05:57:13 PM
I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that?
Impossible for a multitude of reasons
- the code is open source, if Satoshi would have planted that he would have taken the risk of somebody discovering it and taking advantage before him
- the code has changed a lot and he had no way to know that the part which allowed him to come back and the attack would be kept and not modified
- there is a bit of consensus on the idea that Satoshi wasn't a full or expert programmer, so again it would have been near impossible for him to hide from a lot of people who were probably at least the same if not more experienced than him
So, leaving a backdoor for 13 years in an open-source code wouldn't have been the brightest idea, not to mention the blowback when that would have been discovered.
Imagine this would have happened in the first month, everyone would have just dropped the project and never touched it again.
I guess I’m just curious how many security measures are set in place to prevent things like that from every happening.
One, the code is there for everyone to look at it, and with that much $ involved there will be thousands analyzing it, but also you can't do anything other than this.
February 17, 2023, 05:32:07 PM
I know that sounds appalling, but do you think that it is possible that he did that?
Here is the code for Bitcoin Core: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin. Thousands of people have gone though every single line of this code. If there is some kind of back door, it would not be a secret.
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