- Some good users are gambling posters(especially casino) and they are also gamblers. Which means they actually know the reputation of every gambling campaign. It is very easy for such users to get into any gambling related campaign, even if their merits are less compared to the activity. The managers understand that much merit doesn't flow in the gambling boards.
- Another strong reason would be that, the manager has worked with the user previously and he must have trusted the user to be a descent poster. So, he wouldn't hesitate to hire the user even with little merit count
Topic: Do you think that some signature campaigns prioritize clients in some cases? (Read 415 times)
June 12, 2022, 06:51:50 AM
What you pointed out happens mostly because of two conditions according to my personal observations:
June 04, 2022, 08:38:06 AM
I don't know what you think about this. It is clear to me that the campaign managers will not only take into account the merits in relation to the activity, but also if they post on certain boards for example and other factors.
Some bounty managers will take merit as a factor but a post that generates further discussion and quotable post is a good indication that the poster is a good poster, the purpose of the signature campaign is the visibility of the signature code, so managers will choose a good poster that can make the project he is posting generate more views, I never see a requirement that you need to be an active player of the project you are promoting to participate in a campaign.
May 20, 2022, 05:34:40 AM
I don't think that signature campaigns prioritize clients because it would be difficult to know that Bitcointalk member is customer of specific website, especially if cmpaign managed by hired manager who don't have access to database of customers. But I'm sure that managers prioritize potential customers to get hired. Example about degenerate gambler is good. It's likely that in gambling camapign he would be prioritized, even if he isn't best poster, instead of picking good poster who don't have much idea about gambling.
But that's just gambling campaigns. How about exchanges or mixer, who exactly is potential customers of such services. I think in such kind of camapigns participants is chosen solely based on posting quality and where these post is made.
For me, I don't think they need to know who's a user of a specific website, however when it comes to gambling signature campaigns, it's pretty easy to determine where users are spending their money, since they often posting on a specific sites announcement thread.But that's just gambling campaigns. How about exchanges or mixer, who exactly is potential customers of such services. I think in such kind of camapigns participants is chosen solely based on posting quality and where these post is made.
The reason I don't think they need to know specifically is, they want to convince already gamblers to come to their website. Therefore, if they hire these type of uses to promote their signature, then they're getting the best of both worlds. They're getting their name out there, and the user that they've hired also has a high chance of going to them to spend their earnings. Therefore, gambling signature campaigns might be able to offer higher rates than normal, since their participants are going to come back to them, and spend a bit of what they've earned, and therefore they get that money back.
For other signature campaigns that doesn't involve gambling it's a bit harder. Although, I can think of a few examples that would be a good indicator that they would use their service after advertising it.
May 17, 2022, 04:19:24 PM
I don't know what would you like to believe me? Just look at a fake campaign that someone created quite recently. Two pages are full of applications and ahd been filled up fairly quickly.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1xbitcom-signature-campaignup-to-120users-can-wd-no-kyc-5398617
I wrote that it is not easy to get into the 1xbit campaign which is just a fact. If it were otherwise, everyone would be accepted, but it is not.
It's not easy to get into 1xbit campaign not because it's high quality campaign where best posters is accepted. It's because 1xbit campaign have limited slots available, unlike probably worst ever campaign in terms of quality - Yobit. And there is more people who ready to ruin their reputation for few bucks than available spots.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1xbitcom-signature-campaignup-to-120users-can-wd-no-kyc-5398617
I wrote that it is not easy to get into the 1xbit campaign which is just a fact. If it were otherwise, everyone would be accepted, but it is not.
The reasons why it is difficult to get into a signature campaign can be different. The limited number of places is the main reason for all the campaigns I know, 1xbit also.
However, when it comes to the fact that priority is given to users who are clients of the project launching the campaign, in my opinion it is unlikely. The manager would have to know them in advance, so if the project itself does not give a list, of shilling accounts they own, the manager simply won't know who their client is.
May 17, 2022, 02:33:16 PM
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As I say, this has only happened to me in certain cases, in campaigns that I consider decent and that, in general, have quality posters.
Is this my guess or do you think I might be right?
As I say, this has only happened to me in certain cases, in campaigns that I consider decent and that, in general, have quality posters.
Is this my guess or do you think I might be right?
The reason could be anything... Maybe the sig camp manager likes the that certain forum user more because he posts the way the manager likes, maybe they know each other irl, maybe they did some trades before and the manager feels like he owes that user something somehow...
We can't really know it but only can have a guess. Tbh, from time to time I get the same feeling also but it is not a big deal. People are people in the end. We are not machines, we are emotional creatures and we can't be perfect... The sooner you accept this, the better everything will become for you.
May 17, 2022, 02:25:21 PM
I don't know what would you like to believe me? Just look at a fake campaign that someone created quite recently. Two pages are full of applications and ahd been filled up fairly quickly.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1xbitcom-signature-campaignup-to-120users-can-wd-no-kyc-5398617
I wrote that it is not easy to get into the 1xbit campaign which is just a fact. If it were otherwise, everyone would be accepted, but it is not.
It's not easy to get into 1xbit campaign not because it's high quality campaign where best posters is accepted. It's because 1xbit campaign have limited slots available, unlike probably worst ever campaign in terms of quality - Yobit. And there is more people who ready to ruin their reputation for few bucks than available spots. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1xbitcom-signature-campaignup-to-120users-can-wd-no-kyc-5398617
I wrote that it is not easy to get into the 1xbit campaign which is just a fact. If it were otherwise, everyone would be accepted, but it is not.
May 16, 2022, 05:00:45 PM
When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.
Hahha, you are funny.
1xbit is one of the worst ever signature campaign here. Only dishonest members want to join in there. Unfortunately there are quite a few of you, much more than they can handle.
When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.
I'll believe you if the best posters and reputable members are the applicants but it's not, they have to accept people who are willing to ruin their reputation, and they don't have trusted members in your campaign, new applications of users are not accepted because their posts do not live up to what the bounty managers are looking for and your manager is hoping that a good posters with a good reputation will drop their application but that will not happen.
I don't know what would you like to believe me? Just look at a fake campaign that someone created quite recently. Two pages are full of applications and ahd been filled up fairly quickly.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1xbitcom-signature-campaignup-to-120users-can-wd-no-kyc-5398617
I wrote that it is not easy to get into the 1xbit campaign which is just a fact. If it were otherwise, everyone would be accepted, but it is not.
May 16, 2022, 08:10:15 AM
When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.
I'll believe you if the best posters and reputable members are the applicants but it's not, they have to accept people who are willing to ruin their reputation, and they don't have trusted members in your campaign, new applications of users are not accepted because their posts do not live up to what the bounty managers are looking for and your manager is hoping that a good posters with a good reputation will drop their application but that will not happen.
May 10, 2022, 02:39:43 AM
When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.
Hahha, you are funny.
1xbit is one of the worst ever signature campaign here. Only dishonest members want to join in there. Unfortunately there are quite a few of you, much more than they can handle.
May 09, 2022, 05:04:49 PM
Well, first of all I'm not sure if this thread belongs to this board, if you think it doesn't, tell me and I'll move it or report it.
The title is not quite accurate either because due to the maximum number of characters I have not been able to put everything I wanted.
It has happened to me sometimes that when I have seen the people accepted in signature campaings I have not understood very well why certain people have been accepted and not others. This has happened to me only when there are vacancies, like 1 or 2 and with decent signature campaigns, I don't mean the crappy spam like 1xBit and others like that.
In the decent signature campaigns, as I said, sometimes I have seen members with little merits in relation to the activity, for example, chosen over people who have a much better ratio, and I think the main reason could be that it is taken into account that they are customers of the business. Probably at least part of what they are going to earn in the signature campaign they are going to spend in the business (or even more if it is a casino).
I don't know what you think about this. It is clear to me that the campaign managers will not only take into account the merits in relation to the activity, but also if they post on certain boards for example and other factors.
As I say, this has only happened to me in certain cases, in campaigns that I consider decent and that, in general, have quality posters.
Is this my guess or do you think I might be right?
The title is not quite accurate either because due to the maximum number of characters I have not been able to put everything I wanted.
It has happened to me sometimes that when I have seen the people accepted in signature campaings I have not understood very well why certain people have been accepted and not others. This has happened to me only when there are vacancies, like 1 or 2 and with decent signature campaigns, I don't mean the crappy spam like 1xBit and others like that.
In the decent signature campaigns, as I said, sometimes I have seen members with little merits in relation to the activity, for example, chosen over people who have a much better ratio, and I think the main reason could be that it is taken into account that they are customers of the business. Probably at least part of what they are going to earn in the signature campaign they are going to spend in the business (or even more if it is a casino).
I don't know what you think about this. It is clear to me that the campaign managers will not only take into account the merits in relation to the activity, but also if they post on certain boards for example and other factors.
As I say, this has only happened to me in certain cases, in campaigns that I consider decent and that, in general, have quality posters.
Is this my guess or do you think I might be right?
When it comes to the 1xbet signature campaign, it's not that easy to get to. New applications of users have not been accepted for a long time.
As for whether users (for example casinos) are accepted first in signature campaigns, I think it doesn't matter.
Signature managers are usually not part of the project, but only external freelancers, so they do not know if a given user is a client or not.
May 09, 2022, 04:19:13 PM
I don't think that signature campaigns prioritize clients because it would be difficult to know that Bitcointalk member is customer of specific website, especially if cmpaign managed by hired manager who don't have access to database of customers. But I'm sure that managers prioritize potential customers to get hired. Example about degenerate gambler is good. It's likely that in gambling camapign he would be prioritized, even if he isn't best poster, instead of picking good poster who don't have much idea about gambling.
But that's just gambling campaigns. How about exchanges or mixer, who exactly is potential customers of such services. I think in such kind of camapigns participants is chosen solely based on posting quality and where these post is made.
But that's just gambling campaigns. How about exchanges or mixer, who exactly is potential customers of such services. I think in such kind of camapigns participants is chosen solely based on posting quality and where these post is made.
May 06, 2022, 05:26:14 PM
Is this my guess or do you think I might be right?
They are the ones who do really look into someones profile whether they might have able to skip it out or simply they do see a particular member is been active on a specific board that
they are looking for despite of merit counts and been focusing instead with the activity.
Spending up campaign pay on the platform is just a presumption imho since most of the time people would really be withdrawing those campaign pay.
May 06, 2022, 06:58:41 AM
Imho your title is misleading because you wrote clients instead of employees 
I am referring to customers/clients and not to employees, so I don't see why it is misleading.
May 06, 2022, 05:21:46 AM
In the decent signature campaigns, as I said, sometimes I have seen members with little merits in relation to the activity, for example, chosen over people who have a much better ratio, and I think the main reason could be that it is taken into account that they are customers of the business. Probably at least part of what they are going to earn in the signature campaign they are going to spend in the business (or even more if it is a casino).
And yes, it happens that the campaign manager prefers certain people or certain type of people.
It may depend on:
* where they post
* posting style
* whether the campaign manager has already worked with certain people
And also yes, actual customers may be prioritized, since they can advertise the business better and from their actual experience, although in this case the campaign manager may have to be part of the staff of that business.
But usually it goes the other way: they pick good people from the forum, pay into the business/website account (especially in case of gambling) and they'll get people that will advertise better the business and may also lose some money there in the process...
May 06, 2022, 05:14:36 AM
There are other factors, of course. And a new campaign is not the same as one that has been running for many years and only needs to fill a couple of slots, in the latter case maybe some specific characteristics are prioritized over merits.
I would say that you have already answered your question in the first post. after meeting the some posting quality, the next thing that matters is where that user writes posts.
I remember one signature for the casino now closed (one of the longest-lasting with higher rates), I talked to the manager because some of the participants wrote 90% of their posts in the local Pilipinas section, where I got an answer that the owner of the campaign is very satisfied with that because they have many users from that area.
May 06, 2022, 02:37:05 AM
I believe that accepting "degenerate" gamblers in certain gambling campaigns is very profitable for the casinos because they end up losing everything they earn in the signature campaign and more.
I'd agree. Pay some guy several hundred dollars a week that you know almost for certain he'll gamble away as free money, and add more of his into chasing the losses, and you sort of have a self-serving use case.
And you get visibility in the threads HE is active in (which may not necessarily even be close to he types of threads a "high quality" poster might even think to visit).
Preferable, you'd also want more of his type -- birds of a feather.
So yeah, definitely makes sense for a sig camp to recruit based on their needs.
May 06, 2022, 02:31:29 AM
well ... so basically every bounty manager has his own criteria in choosing or deciding who is accepted and who is rejected. and of course those who are accepted are people who meet the criteria prepared by the manager.
Well, it is clear to me that merit and in relation to the activity is very important for all quality campaigns. This is what I have seen in the signature campaign I am in and after seeing many applications, those who have applied having much more merits than activity have been accepted shortly after submitting the application. There are other factors, of course. And a new campaign is not the same as one that has been running for many years and only needs to fill a couple of slots, in the latter case maybe some specific characteristics are prioritized over merits.
... the handful of degen gamblers (I say this as a compliment, mind you) I happen to know on the forum aren't generally posting what might be considered "meritorious" or even high quality posts by others.
I believe that accepting "degenerate" gamblers in certain gambling campaigns is very profitable for the casinos because they end up losing everything they earn in the signature campaign and more.
May 05, 2022, 11:45:34 AM
Sometimes merit is not all about since sometimes it will all matter on which board those the participants post as the company want to target more higher audiences. And beside signature campaign is not solely created for merits they are aftering for mass exposure. I know managers know what they are doing that's why they are successful as well the company they are promoting because they are getting the best result by the help of their acquired signature campaign participants.
well ... so basically every bounty manager has his own criteria in choosing or deciding who is accepted and who is rejected. and of course those who are accepted are people who meet the criteria prepared by the manager.Certain criteria are prepared and arranged for the success of the project to be promoted. it is clear that selection by specific and different criteria is required for each different project.
May 05, 2022, 06:01:09 AM
I can't really tell over the past few years, as haven't been paying much attention, but I do notice some seemingly favoured participants over others. The newer casinos (or rather, newer campaigns) don't appear to prioritise merits and post quality as much as activity and participation across more threads -- including altcoins, which I guess makes sense if you're looking to build visibility and attract new customers.
My take on this is that older accounts are less likely to be experimenting with new coins and new casinos, plus -- the handful of degen gamblers (I say this as a compliment, mind you) I happen to know on the forum aren't generally posting what might be considered "meritorious" or even high quality posts by others.
Whether or not this is truly how campaign managers or owners identify their preferred participants I don't know, I suspect not in a formal marketing way anyway.
My take on this is that older accounts are less likely to be experimenting with new coins and new casinos, plus -- the handful of degen gamblers (I say this as a compliment, mind you) I happen to know on the forum aren't generally posting what might be considered "meritorious" or even high quality posts by others.
Whether or not this is truly how campaign managers or owners identify their preferred participants I don't know, I suspect not in a formal marketing way anyway.
April 29, 2022, 07:19:43 AM
Sometimes merit is not all about since sometimes it will all matter on which board those the participants post as the company want to target more higher audiences. And beside signature campaign is not solely created for merits they are aftering for mass exposure. I know managers know what they are doing that's why they are successful as well the company they are promoting because they are getting the best result by the help of their acquired signature campaign participants.
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