There is element of market manipulation particularly by the Whales who bought huge amount at the cheaper rate and sell later when Bitcoin value appreciate and that make so many people lost during correction period of they thought its value will continue to appreciate but later cut off by the Whales.
This is something normal here. I think you don’t have to be so sensitive about such cases. Whales have some good power with which they can control the market. Here I want to clear a thing that often people say whales can control a particular coin, no that isn’t right. They can manipulate the market according to their own interests and needs. You just be careful from their actions. 
Topic: Do you think that the price is fully manipulated? - page 18. (Read 3089 times)
I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
I do not think so the price is fully manipulated but up to some extent. We know that the market has some factors which are to be stronger and should increase more that will manipulate the market price. Large investments will manipulate the market and we are observing that the current market has traffic as people are investing with huge amount and will manipulate the market soon.
Not fully manipulated as you said because not all the stock are hold by the wealthy company's. Maybe the stock holders are making an allying also to other stock holder to manipulate the bitcoin price but this only my theory. Because sometimes I imagine how bitcoin price so volatile.
I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
That low volume indicates for me that a market has been manipulated while investors are out due to fear in market without news. Remember how much they earn in this manipulations and that was one of the sec regulations to talk about this thing in the crypto market.
Coinbase does a form of manipulation and blames it on maintenance. You get a huge buying limit when the market is down so you can buy more, but when the market is up and starting to fall they halt withdrawals due to maintenance!
Closing of registration has never been a form of market manipulation as it is all about the capacity the trading platform could offer at that point in time which most of the time, it is usually opened back to the public, although these days, I am beginning to not believe some exchanges are not involved themselves in other forms of manipulation.
Manipulation generally is known to be done by the whales in the market and for the bitcoin and cryptocurrency market, it is obvious unless there are just some bunch of people who would want to deliberately deny that for some reason. Bear raid, wash trade, P&D, bashing news, spoofing, churning and a lot of other forms of manipulation is one thing I have noticed myself and could really be annoying at times.
Manipulation generally is known to be done by the whales in the market and for the bitcoin and cryptocurrency market, it is obvious unless there are just some bunch of people who would want to deliberately deny that for some reason. Bear raid, wash trade, P&D, bashing news, spoofing, churning and a lot of other forms of manipulation is one thing I have noticed myself and could really be annoying at times.
Nope. There are only times that whales manipulated the market. We just think that they manipulate it because they hold the biggest share to the market where in fact, we won't see that many factors affect the volatility of the price. One thing here is the panic sellers, they usually done a wrong move whenever the market moves. The unnecessary reaction of panic sellers make the market to swing in downward direction.
I believe that most of the coins in the cryptocurrency market are manipulated by the wealthy and the manipulators of the Exchange. In the past, people used to think whales only manipulated the market, but now the Exchange floor also manipulates the coin traded on their platform a lot. The market is getting more and more difficult without a clear plan. 
I don't say forever, but sometimes it happens in their spare time they will do it. Not only in the crypto world it happens in the stock world. But not many people realize it. But also we can take advantage of this situation to gain profit.
I am sure that the price of the main tokens is fully controlled. Unfortunately this is so well and we just have to adapt to the situation.
I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
That low volume indicates for me that a market has been manipulated while investors are out due to fear in market without news. Remember how much they earn in this manipulations and that was one of the sec regulations to talk about this thing in the crypto market. I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
Given that it was manipulated and whales are really involving this works what c we dois there a way we can change this movement?if yes tell us all and we will be happy doing those but if not just stop barking and do your work here
I believe that even if they are manipulating the prices still we have a chance to make profit because trading desires pumps and dumps not just pumping or just dumping .as what the Verses says Of ypu can Beat Them Join Them
I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
After the rapid decline in the value of the market. Some of the information that has been circulated has brought skepticism to investors and users. But in my opinion, that is not possible because the market needs to fluctuate and "refresh" along with mining is increasingly difficult. Even Brandt says, "For the Crypto market, there is not any evidence that whale prices have made this market. The recent decline in May came from the sale of a small number of retail investors. " And I'm sure the next market will be nice and fresh, with the chance to return to the surprise that still has the potential to continue to be patient and trustworthy.
I think there is no way to manipulate the value of the market. If at any one time we can be skeptical (Mtgox) But it will never be possible because of the volume produced by mining companies. They need capital to sustain each cycle of operations but the value of mining will be difficult. No one will be able to manipulate a large volume of bitcoin.
I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low.
The closing of registration for new members on the exchange, not the first time we see it. Previously, bitrex also reported on this. In my opinion, they need time to adjust their performance and monitor and upgrading of new features and some other related security. It can not determine the behavior and interaction of whales.
I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
It just strategy to rotect asset and system, exchange have policy to respond market trend and we all do the same. No one can manipulated market because transactions happen on big number in short time, if there's person/ industry/ government can manipulated market, please tell me who it is and how?. Different people different strategy different respond will create different reality, keep focus and enjoy the journey.
I don't thing so the registration of exchange manipulated are the problem the only reason for the is hacking happening about happen in korean exchanger in this past week they been hack about million USD amount of there exchange that's why bitcoin bearish run have become active.
Nope. There are only times that whales manipulated the market. We just think that they manipulate it because they hold the biggest share to the market where in fact, we won't see that many factors affect the volatility of the price. One thing here is the panic sellers, they usually done a wrong move whenever the market moves. The unnecessary reaction of panic sellers make the market to swing in downward direction.
Can't say that it is fully manipulated for sure but that it is mostly manipulated by the people who made fortune on cryptocurrency couple years ago, that's for sure. Now these "whales" just have so much assets that they can dump market when they want and aern money from that. A lot of newcomers and even experienced traders can be squeezed from this market soon if the "whales" continue to do so. It is just hard cope with this unpredictable moves of the market.
Yes' I think that the price is manipulated and I'm not the only one. That's exactly what CTFC (commodity futures trading commission) is investigating right now. They issued subpoenas to a number of exchanges (4 last time I checked) and demanded all trading data. This happened like 2 days ago, and we crashed...
I hope people responsible will not get too scared, what would the market be without a bit of manipulation
Ill better go with the traditional market price behaviors where manipulation do exist where we can really do see the volatileness rather than seeing it going down due to people are scared because of such action made by government.I hope people responsible will not get too scared, what would the market be without a bit of manipulation
For some investors this would be a good thing to prevent such manipulation but they do havent realized that its more profitable for a manipulated market.
based on my own experience and own views.
It is not a secret that big money (hedge funds and so on) can affect sufficiently on a market price but I cannot assert that all markets are manipulated. As we know, crowd can also sufficiently affect on market price especially when it is hype around an asset.
Mainly markets are not manipulated and the price of an asset tends to achieve its value by means of market.
Mainly markets are not manipulated and the price of an asset tends to achieve its value by means of market.
With the massive increase in late last year, only for it to drop shamefully at the the beginnings of the year. Since then, the price have been on a very irregular movement, whenever there's a little increase, it is followed by a massive dump and dip, the cycle have been like that for months till this recent one that happened. It's very obvious that there is a very big manipulation gong down underground.
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