Do you think that there will ever be an effort to boycott centralized exchanges? - page 2.

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Quote from: BenCodie on December 26, 2022, 07:16:32 PM

Do you think an effective boycott campaign against CEXs could happen? What do you think would be needed to do so, other than the manpower? Or do you think that the tentacles have wrapped themselves too far around the industry?

It's already happening and people withdraw record number of Bitcoins from centralized exchanges after collapse of FTX and rumors about Binance exchange
Problem is that most of the people don't know what to do next and they think that using decentralized exchanges like Bisq or other type of p2p trading is very hard and complicated, but they are wrong about it.
I would also like to see more simple dumb-down cex alternatives for Bitcoin trading and I think developers are working on that with Lightning Network and atomic swaps.
It's much harder to deal with all the banking crap but people still do it every day.

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Quote from: noorman0 on December 27, 2022, 07:00:24 AM

Maybe, first bitcoin has to be the only crypto left. CEX seems to have become the main resource supporting the crypto industry to continue to grow. Altcoins that are listed on certain CEXs can be considered an indicator that more people will come. On this basis, the boycott attempt probably won't have much power of support as long as bitcoin is not alone.

Remember that people didn't just jump into this space initially thanks to bitcoin even though bitcoin was ultimately their end goal.

Even with only bitcoin existing — though CEX usage would definitely be far lower because of far less retail speculation, CEXs will still be heavily used; though people would probably be using peer-to-peer exchanges a lot more. I remember LocalBitcoins having really high usage back then(I know they didn't require KYC back then, but yea).

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No, not in any meaningful way. There are a lot of people here against them, but out there in the 'real world' they are just too easy and popular to use.
People want the magical internet money to just appear, they don't know and they don't want to know or care. So if they have to put in effort to make it work they will push back.

With the push back the people who know better can only go so far after that it's just talking to the wall.

So, the more knowledgeable people will try to educate people about not using them, but they are just too popular and any real effort to boycott them will just fail.
Once again, all the above in my opinion. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.

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for any boycott to succeed, it is necessary that at least 65%+ of the users participate in it. At the same time, they are ready to boycott for a long period of time, often to their own detriment. it is certainly not feasible.
I personally think the problem is that currently, all CEXs offer many options they don't just stick to their exchange priority. For example, Binance has many features like Spot Trading, Margin Trading, Derivatives Trading, Leveraged Tokens, NFT Marketplace, Strategy Trading, OTC Portal, Binance Convert, Auto Invest, DeFi Staking, Dual Investment, Binance Pool, Binance Card, Binance Launchpad, Binance Launchpool...
I think they can certainly be removed from the CEX list, they are more of a trading/investment platform. yes, this is not the case only with Binance. All so-called CEXs use a similar business model.

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Just think centralized exchange is similar like banks and fiat currency, does there's a bank collapse? yes, does there's a fiat currency collapse? yes. But does all of banks and fiat currency are get boycott and there's no countries use fiat currency anymore? nope.

It will be same like centralized exchange, no matter what how bad it is and how many problem are comes from it, any countries only want centralized exchange because it's their another way to control their citizens and get money through tax.

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Saying by using CEXs it helps bitcoin to be massively adopted is a joke. The currencucy has been designed without the need to a 3rd party and centralized. The only thing it does is to confirm the governments needs to regulate the market

Not even need to debate on the fact you're providing your personnal data for the KYC, because I understand some people don't give a fuck to privacy et al. I understand some people claim to not have a big amount on a CEX. That's just to feel less guilty.
Preaching decentralization and privacy, and using centralized exchanges, accepting the taxes and laws,...

...Very efficient decentralization
If you're using a CEX, I hope you won't complaint when the market will be even more regulated as it is currently. You won't be eligible to complain because you think you're paying too much taxes on your gains. You can't complain because you helped to get such situation.

Why should a group of devs create something while people aren't interested in decentralized stuff?

5$ to join an airdrop on a CEX
5$ to watch a video on coinbase.
10 cts to RT a cunt

And voilà, people are happy. Cheesy

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Quote from: BenCodie on December 26, 2022, 07:16:32 PM

I think that this is the only way to majorly effective way to remove exploitative profiteers from the market, stop exit scams and increase transparency of trading activity.

Don't forget these centralized exchanges allow people to easily buy and sell their crypto. P2P is just not that easy.

I would also add that p2p is not safe.
Would you sell 10k usd to a lot of different people in p2p? One day you will see an exit scam.

The best is to use cex just to trade, and they are good for that. Then you just withdrawal. Don't hold crypto in cex. Simple as that.

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Quote from: BenCodie on December 26, 2022, 07:16:32 PM

I think that this is the only way to majorly effective way to remove exploitative profiteers from the market, stop exit scams and increase transparency of trading activity. As new perpetual/margin trading options become available, like GMX and Dydx (which is unconvincingly completely decentralized, however a seemingly better option than CEXs), the possibility to boycott CEXs becomes more possible.

Are there any moves to boycott centralized exchange, will it hold and gain momentum? there's risk in trading on Centralized exchanges but when it comes to the advantages and disadvantages of trading on exchanges traders prefer the advantages brought by trading on centralized exchanges, people who think that they should boycott CEX needs to realize that many DEXes don't support dollar-to-crypto trades, and DEXs only support cryptos on one single blockchain compared to CEX's who can support multiple chains, enabling trading one token from a different chain to another token on another chain.

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Do you think an effective boycott campaign against CEXs could happen? What do you think would be needed to do so, other than the manpower?

Right now I don't see that happening the industry has so many tokens on multiple chains and they can only be housed on a Centralized exchange.

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Maybe, first bitcoin has to be the only crypto left. CEX seems to have become the main resource supporting the crypto industry to continue to grow. Altcoins that are listed on certain CEXs can be considered an indicator that more people will come. On this basis, the boycott attempt probably won't have much power of support as long as bitcoin is not alone.

Remember that people didn't just jump into this space initially thanks to bitcoin even though bitcoin was ultimately their end goal.

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I'm pretty sure this won't be even remotely possible as the majority of crypto-users are still dependent on CEXs for their day to day trading. It's where the most volume is, most services offered as well such as P2P and Fiat on-ramps, etc. Some CEX even have flexible savings while most DEX platform that offers similar service just locks your coin/token for a specific period.

I also feel like main problem is that most DEXs only offer a limited amount of services; trade, vaults, farms and that's it. Although you can use various services, they are not on just one platform, you would need to have multiple tabs open on your browser to use them. CEXs offers plenty of services and in some instances, all top services are in one big CEX; not to mention perks for just trading on their platforms. You basically get more bonuses out of CEXs than DEXs.

Unless crypto-adoption is in a full swing, meaning, we can just go to a store and pay with any crypto or trade freely with it without the need of a P2P service that some CEXs offers, and DEXs caught up to all the services and perks offered by CEXs, this is not possible as only a limited amount of people would end up participating.

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Boycotting of CEXs have been around for a good while now. It's just that for instances like this, boycotting can only do so much. CEXs are still the most convenient way of buying/selling and holding bitcoin/crypto hence it will be the most used platform variant.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on December 26, 2022, 08:02:44 PM

Quote from: BenCodie on December 26, 2022, 07:16:32 PM

I think that this is the only way to majorly effective way to remove exploitative profiteers from the market, stop exit scams and increase transparency of trading activity.

Don't forget these centralized exchanges allow people to easily buy and sell their crypto. P2P is just not that easy.

Yes this is true. There is a severe lack of decentralized P2P services for fiat services that are anywhere near as convenient or easy to use as centralized options. Once this gap is filled the chance might grow stronger.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on December 26, 2022, 08:02:44 PM

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As new perpetual/margin trading options become available, like GMX and Dydx (which is unconvincingly completely decentralized, however a seemingly better option than CEXs), the possibility to boycott CEXs becomes more possible.

Centralized exchanges are fine but we need to understand that a monopoly business model is not good for anything. I see some exchanges are having large share of exchange industry which is obviously bad. They will start manipulating the crypto users very soon if they have not started yet.

In my opinion, manipulation would be a well-versed activity for centralized exchange "elites" (if you will) by now. The discussion and suspicion of these activities date back as far as I remember. We should be suspicious that there is no talk about it now.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on December 26, 2022, 08:02:44 PM

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Do you think an effective boycott campaign against CEXs could happen?

If you and me start avoiding it then it starts. But before that we need to ensure that there are enough decentralized exchanges available and accepted by the community.

I agree. Decentralized exchanges are greatly improving in terms of usability. Your point about P2P services/fiat-related services are definitely a strong point of improvement if CEXs were to be able to be boycotted successfully.

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Quote from: BenCodie on December 26, 2022, 07:16:32 PM

I think that this is the only way to majorly effective way to remove exploitative profiteers from the market, stop exit scams and increase transparency of trading activity.

Don't forget these centralized exchanges allow people to easily buy and sell their crypto. P2P is just not that easy.

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As new perpetual/margin trading options become available, like GMX and Dydx (which is unconvincingly completely decentralized, however a seemingly better option than CEXs), the possibility to boycott CEXs becomes more possible.

Centralized exchanges are fine but we need to understand that a monopoly business model is not good for anything. I see some exchanges are having large share of exchange industry which is obviously bad. They will start manipulating the crypto users very soon if they have not started yet.

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Do you think an effective boycott campaign against CEXs could happen?

If you and me start avoiding it then it starts. But before that we need to ensure that there are enough decentralized exchanges available and accepted by the community.

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I think that this is the only way to majorly effective way to remove exploitative profiteers from the market, stop exit scams and increase transparency of trading activity. As new perpetual/margin trading options become available, like GMX and Dydx (which is unconvincingly completely decentralized, however a seemingly better option than CEXs), the possibility to boycott CEXs becomes more possible.

Do you think an effective boycott campaign against CEXs could happen? What do you think would be needed to do so, other than the manpower? Or do you think that the tentacles have wrapped themselves too far around the industry?

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