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Quote from: sid_jain on May 10, 2018, 11:45:49 AM

Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

There is a possiblity that they could manipulate the price of bitcoins because they have the chance to do it but as long as there are no evidence that will point them, it is still a speculation. And also, this kind of situation in the crypto market certainly happen in the early and mid quarter of the year. I'm sure it will increased again in the last quarter. Same as what happen in 2017.

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I think whale's are the reasoning person behind Bitcoin or the market pricing now. They can do manipulating for they have power to do so for they hold huge bitcoin. I hope they will make the market turn to green again to give hope the hopeless for profit.

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If you were here for how many years you will also have a theory like that and for me, it's for real. They are so called whales, group of bitcoiners that hold decent amount of btc, mainly from China or so they say. They won't call them like that if they don't have the ability to manipulate the price. They can pump and dump if they want.

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Quote from: jonval21 on June 18, 2018, 08:20:05 PM

I think whales can manipulate the market because the market is still small. but if every body use bitcoin will be harder to manipulated. but with must aware another way to manipulate the market with fake news.

Market is manipulated by whales not just the crypto market but the traditional market as well. They manipulate it not just in terms of accumulating with small amounts and then dump it when the price goes higher but they are the one handling the media and news as well so that they can time when they wanted to release a news to help them make the price higher or they want to make it lower to buy more.

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I think that whales are manipulating the market today, we see today the rapidly rising and falling prices that are not natural in the market. Maybe if these whales disappear we will see a steady price increase.

They wouldn't disappear because whales are always there and besides, for every market, there is a market maker so that the coin would always have a volume and keep the market active. These price manipulation is tackled by one of the youtubers who is datadash and explain the different kinds of manipulation. You can watch it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8ZM8GkThg&t=8s

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I think whales can manipulate the market because the market is still small. but if every body use bitcoin will be harder to manipulated. but with must aware another way to manipulate the market with fake news.

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definitely, so-called "Whales" exist, but quite another matter what games they play.
Everything is much more difficult, than you think, all occurs not only on 10k, but for each $100-200 without speaking about 1000.
These are very difficult questions, also as well as conspiracy of these "whales", nobody will tell you it for certain.
I am not a whale, I won't tell)))

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Quote from: Blondy12 on June 18, 2018, 11:26:50 AM

Quote from: bob123 on May 10, 2018, 12:13:14 PM

While i think that there is a high probability of whales manipulating the market, because (1) they have the power to do so and (2) it makes them even richer, i don't think each small pump or dump is related to them.

I can't imagine those 'whales' do have nothing better to do than manipulating the market 24/7.
There may be coordinated pumps or dump (which can be achieved with a relatively small amount of money in this market), but not every price movement is because of whales.
Shitty news, FUD, trust does play a big role too.

I am sorry mate but i need to disagree with you. Whales have the power to manipulate the market though we cannot blame it all to them. Weak hands but not a bigtime investors has nothing to do with the dropping but the whales does. We need to accept reality the even the richiest people still want to have more of what they already have while the mid or lower class need to suffer even if how hard they tried to succeed.

If the weak hands don't sell to the rich people or whales ore whoever wants more, it will still be difficult for whales to manipulate the market. Whales are able to manipulate the market because weak hands give them the authority to do so.

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Quote from: bob123 on May 10, 2018, 12:13:14 PM

While i think that there is a high probability of whales manipulating the market, because (1) they have the power to do so and (2) it makes them even richer, i don't think each small pump or dump is related to them.

I can't imagine those 'whales' do have nothing better to do than manipulating the market 24/7.
There may be coordinated pumps or dump (which can be achieved with a relatively small amount of money in this market), but not every price movement is because of whales.
Shitty news, FUD, trust does play a big role too.

I am sorry mate but i need to disagree with you. Whales have the power to manipulate the market though we cannot blame it all to them. Weak hands but not a bigtime investors has nothing to do with the dropping but the whales does. We need to accept reality the even the richiest people still want to have more of what they already have while the mid or lower class need to suffer even if how hard they tried to succeed.

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There might be an indirect way for that to happen but for sure Whales and their transactions
have made big significant impacts on the market. With that in mind, the influence they harbor
and initiate ripples all throughout, maybe that's why prices vary and dips often occurs.

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I'm not sure they can do that, right now there are thousands of exchanges and millions of users, it is impossible for whales to manipulate the price because the stocks in exchanges are pure.

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its posible to do , but need more than 5 -10 whale to do that , if there any community when all whale together i think it really possible

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Quote from: sid_jain on May 10, 2018, 11:45:49 AM

Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

This is also one of the problems that I'm wondering. It seems that the whale is manipulating the price of the market, so the market always follows their will. I think that filled is also the concern of many others. Along with the negative news appearing every day, it made Bitcoin have a lot of fluctuations and the value dropped sharply. However, we are still not sure whether whale groups manipulate the market, all is just predictable.

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Basically when you panic sell during a bloodbath, you sell your coins to the whales, who are more than happy to collect more of them at cheap price.

I have noticed this kind of person and he is one of my friends, lately, he sold out his all coins when the market starting a bloodbath.
Maybe one of these days he realized that he has a wrong decision.

Who says that the market can't manipulate by the whales?
I think they have the power to do that by paying those media broadcasters to keep spreading a FUD news that gives a negative image to the bitcoin or all crypto. Small bitcoin holders easily panic selling that's the time the whale had a big laugh because they bought at the lowered price they know that after a month the price will back to a normal price.

I think the main lever for manipulating the price is not spreading a FUD news because only regular users(not whales) can be affected by that. And when regular users start selling, this actually has almost no impact on the market and thus can't ignite massive panic selling. What the whales do is they start selling themselves. Only when the whales are selling the price falling is becoming noticeable and only after that the massive panic selling starts.

it seems to be clear now how it happens. honestly before i have no idea how did this whales manipulate market and how does FUDs affect the market, besides it cannot be trigger that easily because as we all know that whales are mostly veterans and not just easily panicked by some FUDs coming out from nowhere.

Whales don't panic at all, that was my point. They sell intentionally to lower the price. When the price is low enough, in their opinion, they start buying as much as they can. Obviously, it's impossible to buy a lot of coins at low price because it starts rising when whales are making their bulk buys. That's why they start selling again to lower it, and on and on, so it's a loop process in a way? and that's what is called manipulation.

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Quote from: sid_jain on May 10, 2018, 11:45:49 AM

Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

I think they do, whales are holding a lot of money and crypto, so I think with them dumping or buying can greatly increase or decrease the market demand and the price of a coin or token. That's why some are waiting for whales to buy for them to make a good investment.

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Actually, the manipulation in the cryptocurrency market is really happening! I believe the reason why there are pumps and dumps are because of the whales in the cryptocurrency. Whales are the most powerful person here in the cryptocurrency market that can manipulate the prices.

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In some extent, definitely

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Quote from: sid_jain on May 10, 2018, 11:45:49 AM

Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

It is possible for them to manipulate the market and seems like people are now aware of this strategy though we can't really tell when they will buy back so that we can go with the flow. Newcomers and those with weak hands are still in trouble nowadays because of the sudden change of prices. If only I got a lot of money to invest now I will surely buy some. Maybe I have to wait for a good timing the next time they will be playing the market so that I can be having a good harvest.

Yes most of the newcomers now are experiencing a loss on which they don't have enough strategy and also they didn't aware for the market manipulation that changes anytime that's why long-term trading is advisable for them but if they want to take a risk on that and learn a new lesson make sure that they are always able to accept a loss and make it a lesson so that they can also earn a huge profit in this market manipulation. This is a good chance to buy more now because surely it will be going up again or reached new ath due to having a big community that continuously adapted it and the whales will always make a move to make this community active in order to encourage new investors that makes it more valuable.

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Quote from: sid_jain on May 10, 2018, 11:45:49 AM

Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

It is possible for them to manipulate the market and seems like people are now aware of this strategy though we can't really tell when they will buy back so that we can go with the flow. Newcomers and those with weak hands are still in trouble nowadays because of the sudden change of prices. If only I got a lot of money to invest now I will surely buy some. Maybe I have to wait for a good timing the next time they will be playing the market so that I can be having a good harvest.

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Maybe they are on the back of falling prices of the bitcoin in the market, but we do not have a sufficient basis to prove for what we believe and we don't have enough ability to prevent them, the only thing that we can do now is go on with the flow.

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Quote from: sid_jain on May 10, 2018, 11:45:49 AM

Hi guys ,
Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets ?? Has any one noticed that the current bull run that has been on for the last few weeks comes to a halt every time it reaches the 10 k mark and slides down . My theory is that whales sell at 10k and then create fud so market slides down only to buy back and pump . What do you think ?

One of the factors of price volatility of cryptocurrency is the law of demand and supply. Alternative Coins price varies with these law, when the supply is low and demand is high, then technically, the price will go high. That in inverse in the different way either. So in connection with the whales, these persons have power through money which they can totally but a lot of altcoins when the market in on correction or dip. And with that action they have, market price and capitalization will totally go up because as what we know, they are whales. This could be the truth, but we do not know that yet.

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