You said you already scan a couple of topics like this? Isn't it enough and you want more opinions regarding on this RNG? But if you ask me, my response would be is ; depending on the casino that I'm playing with.
If I found out that they are trusted by lots of people, I can also put my trust on them and to the RNG that their games are using. If not, not. I'm not really sure if this RNG is the same with the provably fair system that a crypto casino is using on their games. But if not, I think I will go more with provably fair because I think it was based on the blockchain. So we are sure that the results are truly fair and not manipulated by the people behind the casino.
Topic: Do You Trust RNGs (Random Number Generators) in Casinos? (Read 349 times)
It's foolishness if we keep playing in casinos where the RNGs (Random Number Generators) you don't trust, we cannot enjoy the game and there's always suspicion that you cannot win or you are being cheated unless there are reports that the provider is not transparent and they are manipulating the RNG then you can look on other casinos with providers that you can trust with their RNG.
It is good to play in a casino where you are confident and you have peace of mind because you cannot enjoy the game if you cannot trust the platform, I will just bet on offline horse racing where I can have a fair chance.
While Satoshi strove to eliminate the need to trust a third party when it comes to our transactions using bitcoin, this only applies to that environment, when it comes to everything else we are forced to trust a third party all the time, so when we are gambling at a casino we have to trust they will give you a good service, not scam you and not rig their RNG, and if at some point you do not feel like you can trust the casino in which you are gambling for any reason then that is a clear sign that you should stop gambling there. It is good to play in a casino where you are confident and you have peace of mind because you cannot enjoy the game if you cannot trust the platform, I will just bet on offline horse racing where I can have a fair chance.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
It's foolishness if we keep playing in casinos where the RNGs (Random Number Generators) you don't trust, we cannot enjoy the game and there's always suspicion that you cannot win or you are being cheated unless there are reports that the provider is not transparent and they are manipulating the RNG then you can look on other casinos with providers that you can trust with their RNG.
It is good to play in a casino where you are confident and you have peace of mind because you cannot enjoy the game if you cannot trust the platform, I will just bet on offline horse racing where I can have a fair chance.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
I don't know how reliable those random number generators can be, but one thing I truly believe about all this is that the system is not entirely fair enough; there are always big wins from the casino from gamblers all over. It might happen to you today; it might happen to someone else the next day.
One thing I believe is that the system is designed to not always allow the number of winners and amount to be won to be higher than the overall wager amount; that's, we can't have a total number of $100,000 RNGs per day and a user or total number of winners exceeding that amount.
The casinos are built to favour their owners, so I don't entirely believe in their full fairness. There is some manipulation in the number generation, and there is a limit to what higher number can be generated at every point in time in the overall wager.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
But as long as i have plenty of time , i will still choose to use manual betting.
If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).
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If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).
This is a nice comment as some reputable casinos in games that are designed by them also called in house games they offer you all the seeds,hashes and everything to check yourself and people do not bother to question about these games as they know they are provably fair.
The problem is with third party slot providers for example which you have to trust them and also the casino has to trust them as they offer no hashes,seeds or whatever is needed to verify that these games are provably fair,so in here you either trust them or not,it is a personal decision.
if you don't trust a platform then it's like throwing away your money, gambling is a game of luck but at least there is a chance to win even if the chances are slim, I would not sign up, deposit, and play or trade in a platform that I don't trust, and the game provider will have a bad reputation in the community if it's exposed as rigged.
Exactly, if you feel that the casino is already is sketchy at first glance, why would you still put your money in it in hopes that you can win something, there's a reason why the buildings of casinos in Vegas are awesome and that they're all breathtaking, they want you to have a good first impression on their casino and the same with online casinos, you will do the same. When it comes to RNG though, I think that it's relative to how established the casino is or how trustworthy they are at first glance, I think that you have no choice but to trust that it's not rigged.You don't really need to trust RNG, it's still a game of chance and no matter what you do it's always going to favor the house and we all know that the casino owners don't want a fair RNG or even a player favoring RNG, that's bad for the business, they just know where to put the numbers so you can still have a small chance of winning, like a tiny hole in a vast concrete prison to let a little light in.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
But imo I know that casino games are a game of luck, and to win you need to keep playing to make your own luck...you honestly can't play one or two rounds and expect to catch a 1000X multiplier that easy.
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Do You Trust RNGs (Random Number Generators) in Casinos?
Btw, is this RNG backed by probably fair when it comes to crypto casinos?? If the @OP win, he will not open this thread and think RNGs is rigged 
It's not surprising to see a loser will complain and blame the casino because he's not making money. A mad gambler will blame everything when the fault was himself, such person need to get rehabilitation in order to make his brain think wisely.
It's not surprising to see a loser will complain and blame the casino because he's not making money. A mad gambler will blame everything when the fault was himself, such person need to get rehabilitation in order to make his brain think wisely.
Oh, it's not like that haha, I personally trust the RNG. I think just like everyone else I've had some wins and some losses and I understand that at reputable casinos it is fair. I started this thread just because I was curious about what other people think.
I somewhat trust them to offer quality games, so I voted yes. I still play some of the casino games up until now and have no doubts about the RNGs on their games. My reasoning is similar to the other posts because the only way to send the message is by using your wallet and sticking to provably fair games. Certain casinos would even be willing to pull out specific games if it's not up to their standard and try to improve them when that happens.
if you don't trust a platform then it's like throwing away your money, gambling is a game of luck but at least there is a chance to win even if the chances are slim, I would not sign up, deposit, and play or trade in a platform that I don't trust, and the game provider will have a bad reputation in the community if it's exposed as rigged.
Casinos' existence very much depends on trust and reputation if it's taken away they do not have to be in this business anymore one case study is 1xbit, they have a thread here but all the comments and feedback are bad.
Casinos' existence very much depends on trust and reputation if it's taken away they do not have to be in this business anymore one case study is 1xbit, they have a thread here but all the comments and feedback are bad.
If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).
Verifying fairness of the game is only possible on house games which is commonly open source and verifiable while the rest of the casino games from 3rd party is using RNG to determine the result which is close source. I believe this is what OP referring and there’s no way to verify the outcome manually if probably fair but this doesn’t mean they are red flag since these games undergo through audit before they have license to be distributed on casino.
Very true but i personally would never trust the system not to be manipulated if i can not verify it myself. Could be just me tho
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
For more clarity you can see below.
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Random Number Generator is a tool or algorithm that produces a sequence of numbers that is statistically independent and unpredictable. Simply put, a Random Number Generator is a program or tool for generating an irregular sequence of numbers or symbols.
The points of the RNG are like this.
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RNG algorithm, every single outcome is 100% random and does not follow patterns or cycles over time.
So I don't believe about the RNG system, if it is considered important in casinos, it applies to the casino, not to the user.
If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).
Verifying fairness of the game is only possible on house games which is commonly open source and verifiable while the rest of the casino games from 3rd party is using RNG to determine the result which is close source. I believe this is what OP referring and there’s no way to verify the outcome manually if probably fair but this doesn’t mean they are red flag since these games undergo through audit before they have license to be distributed on casino.
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Many gamblers didn’t mind about this as long as they are on the most trusted gambling site and yes, if you are not familiar with this better to gamble only on the best list. Its actually hard to know if the site if fair or not, and I’m sure someone will always look into that details, all you have to do is to do your own research as well. You can’t do anything about it honestly, its hard to know if you’re an ordinary gambler all I have is the trust on the top sites and playing with them is still good so far.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
I think that casinos are generally open about their respective house edges.
Remember that online gambling casinos are businesses and they must have a designated house edge in order to have at least a very slight advantage against the users. While this house edge may seem relatively small, statistically, the house will always win. This is the reason on why people who gamble frequently succumb and lose money at the end of the process.
In conclusion, casinos are open about their rates. But if you are indeed lucky and you have won a couple of times which yielded a profit, call it a day and try your best to stop!
If there is a way to test if the provable fairness system works out mathematically and all outcomes and hashes etc are correct then there are no questions about it. IF you find that some of it is occasinoally off tho, then that is an instant red flag and the provable fairness becomes (probably fair lol).
You are cheating yourself if you think that the casinos that you're playing are cheating on you, why play at a casino where you feel that you are being cheated It is unfair to you if these RNGs coming from game providers are cheating their clients, casinos will not subscribe to these providers if you feel you are being cheated then luck based and RNGs based games are not for you and just do sports betting where your skill is the one that will be put to test.
When it comes to playing in a casino trust is important, you will not enjoy the game if you do not trust the result.
When it comes to playing in a casino trust is important, you will not enjoy the game if you do not trust the result.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
You will only be doubtful in the beginning if your expectation is to high but you end up being crumpled on the bets made. But if you know how fine they are and how smooth the casino experience you are gaining from them for sure you never question the RNG results of the casino since every result shown you get satisfied with it. Its just we need to became more familiar with the casino and questioning about such thing will be our of our concerns and we might shift our attention on other things especially on the promotions they offer.
If you still doubt the shown result of the casino maybe better to seek for feedback from the community for sure many would share their experience and you can learn a lot from gamblers insights.
Because gambling is full of trust.
You trust the casino won't steal your funds and you trust the game won't rigged, even you've made research about the reputation, license, popularity, the highest winnings they ever paid, their activity etc, you have no way to verify them.
You trust the casino won't steal your funds and you trust the game won't rigged, even you've made research about the reputation, license, popularity, the highest winnings they ever paid, their activity etc, you have no way to verify them.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
This is a difficult answer for me, because I cannot confirm and claim that the RNG system is provably fair.
Firstly, I am a football fan. However, it's not uncommon for me to like playing slots. several sources that I read regarding RNG, claim that this system has been implemented by most casinos in their slot games. in particular, casinos that are trusted and have a license and credibility that can be accounted for. If that's true, there's nothing we have to worry too much about.
However, there are many doubts regarding the generation of random numbers "RNG". For me, that is a normal thing. because, if someone asks questions or doubts it, it means that there is information presented about RNG that cannot be accepted rationally and with common sense. also, in application when playing this slot game.
Once again I say, I'm not too interested in the ins and outs of RNG, RTP, available from slot games, because I'm more focused on football. but one thing I can say, if the casino we play at is a casino that has a good reputation and is trusted, licensed. Moreover, it has credibility. there is nothing wrong, if we believe it, unless something is found to contradict it.
For the uninitiated, RNG basically assures that each game's result is truly random, making the result of the game as fair as possible. Reputable online casinos use RNGs that have received external agency certification from a technical standpoint. Theoretically, this outside endorsement should attest to the game's impartiality.
However, its important to distinguish between casinos. Nobody is created equally. Some go above and beyond for transparency, occasionally revealing the algorithms as well as the outcomes. So, to answer your question, yes or no? Nothing is in black and white. Verified RNGs from reputed casinos are trusted by me. Always research a wager before making one. The safest wager you can place is that.
However, its important to distinguish between casinos. Nobody is created equally. Some go above and beyond for transparency, occasionally revealing the algorithms as well as the outcomes. So, to answer your question, yes or no? Nothing is in black and white. Verified RNGs from reputed casinos are trusted by me. Always research a wager before making one. The safest wager you can place is that.
I trust RTP (return-to-player) more than RNG. I don't believe it's random, it will depend on how much you are losing and winning. I think I have made enough bets to see why I believe in that way.
Played Keno for a long time and other casino originals games, all I see is when I am on a losing streak the game will give it back somehow, and the funny thing sometimes is it's exactly how much you need to get even or a little profit or a little loss. Then, when you continue running it, it happens again. That's not RNG for me. Because if the casino uses that kind of method (RNG) then I doubt many of us will be a bit happy about what is happening. Most of us will lose more so we might leave the gambling site and look for more which I don't think they want to happen. As much as possible, they want us to stick to the site and play even if it takes a long for them to make profits. That's RTP, not RNG.
Played Keno for a long time and other casino originals games, all I see is when I am on a losing streak the game will give it back somehow, and the funny thing sometimes is it's exactly how much you need to get even or a little profit or a little loss. Then, when you continue running it, it happens again. That's not RNG for me. Because if the casino uses that kind of method (RNG) then I doubt many of us will be a bit happy about what is happening. Most of us will lose more so we might leave the gambling site and look for more which I don't think they want to happen. As much as possible, they want us to stick to the site and play even if it takes a long for them to make profits. That's RTP, not RNG.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
if you think that a casino is manipulating their RNGs, you can actually verify it. so you can present your findings to the community or ask assistance if you are in doubt, because there are so many users here who will surely help you out.
but in most cases, i don't check about the fairness if i know the site is trustworthy. i believe, only few users really check this feature.
The casino will not manipulate their RNG number,because the casino get good money from each game conducting from the gambler as the commission and why should they do the RNG manipulation.Because casino doesn’t need any involvement in the RNG,the gamblers will get the win based on the luck.Check the gambling site before using it,but don’t blame the website after the loss.Loss is one of the fifty percent in the game.So blaming the website after the loss is not an good gambling attitude.
Yes I trust RNGs, but only in big gambling providers e.g. Pragmatic Play, Play 'N' Go, Microgaming and NetEnt. This is because we have no way to verify our bet, all we can do is trust the providers.
If someone can't trust RNGs, then the choice is avoid slots and only gamble in own casino's games, you can verify your bet.
If you still not trust both of them, you can gamble in sport bookie.
However if you still think sport is rigged, never talk about gambling anymore and go away from this place.
Right. It's useless to gamble if we resort into believing that these RGNs are rigged. If that is the case, we will never see ourselves winning some decent amount at some point. However, probably for those fake and scam casinos, there's no way we can trust those RGNs but for big and famous casinos, either we need to trust them or we just have to avoid gambling at all cost. If someone can't trust RNGs, then the choice is avoid slots and only gamble in own casino's games, you can verify your bet.
If you still not trust both of them, you can gamble in sport bookie.
However if you still think sport is rigged, never talk about gambling anymore and go away from this place.
That's why we have to gamble at trusted casinos so we don't suspect they are cheating. We can indeed check whether the casino is cheating us or whether they are really honest. But instead of doing that, it's better just to trust the casino. After all, it is a trusted casino. They won't want to ruin their reputation just because of a small problem. Instead of thinking about the casino's honesty or cheating, which might waste time, it's better just to enjoy the gambling game. If we are unsure about the casino, we can look for another casino that might not make us hesitate to gamble at that casino.
Many gamblers didn’t mind about this as long as they are on the most trusted gambling site and yes, if you are not familiar with this better to gamble only on the best list. Its actually hard to know if the site if fair or not, and I’m sure someone will always look into that details, all you have to do is to do your own research as well. You can’t do anything about it honestly, its hard to know if you’re an ordinary gambler all I have is the trust on the top sites and playing with them is still good so far.
That's why we have to gamble at trusted casinos so we don't suspect they are cheating. We can indeed check whether the casino is cheating us or whether they are really honest. But instead of doing that, it's better just to trust the casino. After all, it is a trusted casino. They won't want to ruin their reputation just because of a small problem. Instead of thinking about the casino's honesty or cheating, which might waste time, it's better just to enjoy the gambling game. If we are unsure about the casino, we can look for another casino that might not make us hesitate to gamble at that casino.
Do we have a choice? I don't think so. That's why, we got to trust them if we want to gamble online. If a game let's you verify your bets using a provably-fair system, that's a different thing, but most slots and providers don't allow that and all you got to do is just trust that they are not scamming you and I'm pretty sure that most users are doing that because these providers and casinos have millions of users and I don't think they would all be sure if the platforms are not scamming them but it is just that they believe they are not being scammed.
Also, we all know that slots have a higher house edge than any other game, and we also tend to lose more money in slots in general unless we get lucky and hit a multiplier that changes the whole thing upside down and even if we were in loss previously, that single spin might get us in profit but that doesn't happen all the time.
Also, we all know that slots have a higher house edge than any other game, and we also tend to lose more money in slots in general unless we get lucky and hit a multiplier that changes the whole thing upside down and even if we were in loss previously, that single spin might get us in profit but that doesn't happen all the time.
All you have to do is trust the providers, that's the only thing gamblers can rely on, and as for many beginners, all casino games are rigged, not until the win some cool amount of money, that's when they will start thinking that they are wrong.
I am not saying that casinos game are far from rig, but those ones from software and games providers are far more reliable, but few people believe that games made by casinos are better, I don't see any reason why, because rigging games from providers will get your ass bursted as a casino CEO, games for providers are open to the public, only in games from casino can easily be rigged, and that's why I fear them.
For the RNG discussion, I believe that luck is still playing a lot here, casinos have to make money remember? Even more than gamblers themselves, so either casino in games or from providers, they are all programmed to make casinos more profitable than gamblers, this is why every gamblers needs to be aware of themselves.
Are you still in your right mind with gambling? Are you pushing yourself too much? Self-awareness can bring you back when you are stepping into the danger zone of gambling, be cautious of yourselves.
I am not saying that casinos game are far from rig, but those ones from software and games providers are far more reliable, but few people believe that games made by casinos are better, I don't see any reason why, because rigging games from providers will get your ass bursted as a casino CEO, games for providers are open to the public, only in games from casino can easily be rigged, and that's why I fear them.
For the RNG discussion, I believe that luck is still playing a lot here, casinos have to make money remember? Even more than gamblers themselves, so either casino in games or from providers, they are all programmed to make casinos more profitable than gamblers, this is why every gamblers needs to be aware of themselves.
Are you still in your right mind with gambling? Are you pushing yourself too much? Self-awareness can bring you back when you are stepping into the danger zone of gambling, be cautious of yourselves.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
We all know there is no absolute randomness in man-made number generators, but what casinos use comes pretty close to it. I do believe in the casinos and that they are trustworthy. It might seem like the casinos could easily fix the numbers to increase their profits, but this a huge risk and could ruin a company. Most casinos try to establish a brand and are in for the long run, not short term profits. Being a well established casino is going to bring in a lot of more customers than a new startup. In my opinion the casino doesn't need to fake random number generators, because they already have the house edge. As long as there are enough customers the casino is going to make money. All the casino games are designed so that the casino is making money, no need to fake the numbers.
The RNG thing for me is if I'm playing on a trusted casino then I could follow with what others are doing but I still believe not all the time it will be successful because casinos are also there to make money, I will still have the luck tendency behind my mind.
But for a casino that doesn't have a good review, my trust level is highly reduced.
But for a casino that doesn't have a good review, my trust level is highly reduced.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
And with that said, I just decided to trust well-known casinos/providers instead. They're most used by players and I reckon a few of those do some checks on their own.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
RNG is a systematic or working way of a casino game and like it or not we will follow or believe everything that exists.
Moreover we ourselves can understand that casinos are a business and they aim to make a profit so thinking about not trusting RNG or fairness on a gambling site or casino is also not something we need to do.
But from all this do you think that the casino or a third party has manipulated the results of the game so that there are doubts about trusting the RNG or the fairness of a gambling site?
It really depends on provider. There was one state institution in my country that was running lottery. Lately they privatized it so some company (monopoly) bought it and they also featured new type of gambling methods that didn't exist in past. Slots and other typical games that you would find in casinos. I saw a guy doing a review with website. Its numbers were heavily modified to make house win which is so sad. Its hard to trust most companies. But I think legit businesses will never do that to avoid losing customers.
If you research about it, it really used in many ways in games for calculating i mean having random results in attacks, results same way goes to casinos. It's not biased if you understand the algorithm, that's why you will eventually trust it if you didn't yet.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
There are scam casinos out there that manipulate their RNGs but this cannot be generalized to all casinos. The more reason why gamblers should get educated on these things.
if you think that a casino is manipulating their RNGs, you can actually verify it. so you can present your findings to the community or ask assistance if you are in doubt, because there are so many users here who will surely help you out.
but in most cases, i don't check about the fairness if i know the site is trustworthy. i believe, only few users really check this feature.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
There are scam casinos out there that manipulate their RNGs but this cannot be generalized to all casinos. The more reason why gamblers should get educated on these things.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
It's not about I "trust" the RNG but I believed these casinos won't do some sh*t regarding that.
They care about their reputation as that was hard to achieve in the process. Aside from that, casino games are mostly provided by game providers and these providers also care for their reputation that's why I don't see what's the benefit if they rigged the RNGs of their respective slot games.
Simply, I believe some users are misled about what RNG is all about. As soon as they saw that high percentage like over 95%, they think the winning chance is high. In case of loss, they will blame the casino game or the casino itself not realizing they are doing gambling.
I mostly trust Random number generators in from reliable providers. Though, I think that since we are talking about casinos which allow gamblers to wager with Bitcoin and other decentralized assets it would be more appropriate if we learnt and got used to gamble using probably fair games.
I would personally not recommend anyone to over-think whether their preferred casino is cheating on them or not, it sounds like the easiest and quickest way to lose peace of mind and the passion for gambling itself. In moments of frustration and after a bad luck streak rolling dices or spinning slots, there is always a possibility of letting our mind to blame the casino and the alleged system behind it. That is another reason for supporting the development of probably fairness.
I would personally not recommend anyone to over-think whether their preferred casino is cheating on them or not, it sounds like the easiest and quickest way to lose peace of mind and the passion for gambling itself. In moments of frustration and after a bad luck streak rolling dices or spinning slots, there is always a possibility of letting our mind to blame the casino and the alleged system behind it. That is another reason for supporting the development of probably fairness.
For peace of mind, I prefer to trust RNGs in Casinos. I do not want to be stressed out or frustrated thinking that the game I am playing is rigged. I play on the casino platform because I trust them so I do not doubt that their RNGs are rigged. Whether it is rigged or not, it is up to the casino owner's conscience. I play gambling games to have some fun and get entertain not to prove that their games' RNG are rigged. So I do not mind it anyway, besides they have licensed and their game provider has. I believe the authority are randomly checking the fairness of the offered games in the casino.
I trust the RNG to suck for me. There are only a few times in my life wherein I won something in the casino. Most of the time, these are losses, though I understand that it would be the case since it's "random" after all. Also, if you have a way to verify your game session before every roll, might as well do that, and it's something that puts you in somewhat a comfortable position as you know that the games are not being rigged since you checked for the integrity of the game before you click that 'play' button.
For me, verification is a must if the site is new and has no reputation yet.
But I can say, if you are playing on known sites here, players tend to forget to verify the provable fairness of the game.
I believe, people are trusting the site already if they already established their credibility in the community.
Hence, very rare that you will encounter a gambler going thru the verification process, let's say in duelbits or stake or sportsbet.
But sure, there are several threads here educating users how to determine if the provable fairness is indeed fair.
Like this thread -
Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/do-you-verify-every-bet-as-a-gambler-provably-fair-guide-5227525
I trust the RNG to suck for me. There are only a few times in my life wherein I won something in the casino. Most of the time, these are losses, though I understand that it would be the case since it's "random" after all. Also, if you have a way to verify your game session before every roll, might as well do that, and it's something that puts you in somewhat a comfortable position as you know that the games are not being rigged since you checked for the integrity of the game before you click that 'play' button.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
Not really, but they are as reliable as you're going to get. This completely ignores the fact that a casino is naturally a "blackbox" operation and could have vast manipulative algorithms running that no player would ever have the ability to detect, so it's a bit of a moot point really. Casinos are generally winners with the odds built into every game in their favor, so they don't really need to go down a route like rigging a random number generator. You'll never get a true random number generator, as you're probably aware, so you just have to accept the best that is on offer which has been doing quite a good job already for decades. If you're heavily into gambling you're probably not that interested in deep number analysis like this anyway.
It is not about trusting a user's answer for a yes or no, it is knowing if they are certified*,so, a casino mentions RNG, check who endorses that, there are various third-party organizations that endorse them, but in general, the randomness they generate It is accepted by the casino industry, and online games in general, no one likes to lose and especially when it is so obvious that you are going to win and boom you lose, randomness.
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https://itechlabs.com/compliance-testing/rng-testing/
or
https://gaminglabs.com/getting-started/technical-specifications-for-rng-testing/
... among others.
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https://itechlabs.com/compliance-testing/rng-testing/
or
https://gaminglabs.com/getting-started/technical-specifications-for-rng-testing/
... among others.
I don't think this Is a rigged feature in casino.
But its really hard to dimostrate any real scam or fraud.
Of course anyone can think ok I dont trust It, but any public doubt must Always supported by evidences.
I think however that RTP and its variance Its the main driver for players suspect
But its really hard to dimostrate any real scam or fraud.
Of course anyone can think ok I dont trust It, but any public doubt must Always supported by evidences.
I think however that RTP and its variance Its the main driver for players suspect
It's all about feelings; if you feel cheated, then in your perception, it's cheating, and if you feel uncheated, it implies that the RNG (Random Number Generator) is fair.
If the @OP win, he will not open this thread and think RNGs is rigged It's not surprising to see a loser will complain and blame the casino because he's not making money. A mad gambler will blame everything when the fault was himself, such person need to get rehabilitation in order to make his brain think wisely.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
I believe in RNG and I also believe with this RNG every game that has this basis will be fairer and we can just take a simple example like if someone does not believe in RNG what happens to small gamblers who have a budget of only a small amount but can still bet a few hours and here comes RNG justice. If Random Number Generation not really work, I think every gambler will lose money faster and there are even many hackers or anyone who tries to manipulate the system to break into games like slots and dice, if they dont have an RNG, it will be easier to manipulate.
maybe this is just my own opinion but maybe there are several different opinions here and how long will RNG work for real except for RTP which I never trust.
RNG in casinos is good and trustworthy every gambler's slot games are very favorite. As slot games began to enter the world of gambling more and more players adopted these games as their favorite game. And trusting RNG Since RNG software controls the slots these games must be fair and easy for players. What stops casinos from creating games where they can guarantee players to lose at will and where the software can monitor and confirm your spins. Also in RNG slot games similarly pay out fixed amounts often and offer small wins while others return any money after hundreds of spins or guarantee a win but offer much higher chances with a single spin.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
Even if you don’t trust them what exactly are we going to do about it? The whole system is basically built on trust so if you don’t want to trust them you’ll have to look for how you’ll get one that doesn’t use rng.
Most times when we experience we don’t pay attention to the system of the gambling site the only time we do is when we start to experience some losing streaks that’s when we tend to look for how we’re going to blame the problem on technical fault, whether calling it rigged or something else we should just accept losses and move o
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
I guess those players who love slots like me will have to trust RNG from those reputable casinos. I mean it's the heart of the game like slots, so I don't see reputable casino's rigging it. And possible that in one given time, there are a lot of gamblers playing simultaneous slots from good slots operator so I doubt that they will even attempt a slightest tip on the RNG in their favor. Otherwise, if someone checks or at least there is some suspicions that they are rigging it, then the news will come out and it might hit their reputation. And yes, if you don't trust them, then play other games, simple as that.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
Do we have other choice? RNG of casino games from 3rd party can’t verified except for house games. It’s either you will trust or just don’t play. This gambling software is being audited by their license provider before they can offer it to their customers.
This is the only reason why I keep trusting them or maybe just a self justification to satisfy my trust issue because we really have no choice here. Sying you didn’t trust it while you still keep plying is absurd.
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As a small gambler who just wants to gamble, especially play slot games, I trust RNG especially if it is from a big provider and trusted casino. There is no hesitation on my part not to believe it. And even if the casino were cheating, I wouldn't know either but that's okay too. Each gambler may have a different opinion depending on their goals in gambling. And if they want to win, they will check everything and make sure there is no cheating. And when a trusted casino and its providers say it is fair, we can only believe it even though we can check it.
If not then how you can gamble? This is the thing that is hard to actually know that is why you need to use the best gambling site available in your place so at least you can have your peace of mind and you know that it is trusted by many. If you are going to doubt the site then better not to gamble on that site, beside this is more about your luck so don’t expect that much and just continue to gamble with excitement.
It's all about feelings; if you feel cheated, then in your perception, it's cheating, and if you feel uncheated, it implies that the RNG (Random Number Generator) is fair. This is all highly subjective, as someone who consistently loses on slot machines may view slots as deceitful. Conversely, those who have won from slots may regard them as fair games of chance.Given my infrequent victories in slot games, I tend to perceive the RNG as something manipulated. I prefer card games and sports over having to speculate on the systems used in slot machines. And most importantly, never forget about luck .
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
Yes I trust RNGs, but only in big gambling providers e.g. Pragmatic Play, Play 'N' Go, Microgaming and NetEnt. This is because we have no way to verify our bet, all we can do is trust the providers.
If someone can't trust RNGs, then the choice is avoid slots and only gamble in own casino's games, you can verify your bet.
If you still not trust both of them, you can gamble in sport bookie.
However if you still think sport is rigged, never talk about gambling anymore and go away from this place.
If someone can't trust RNGs, then the choice is avoid slots and only gamble in own casino's games, you can verify your bet.
If you still not trust both of them, you can gamble in sport bookie.
However if you still think sport is rigged, never talk about gambling anymore and go away from this place.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
Why not, do you think people will be using these gambling platforms if they are not trusted, this is not being manipulated because they also loose at the cause of these, if a gambler win over the house then such can be said with fair justice, we should be less concerned about the RNG because it's all about taking risk when we gamble and we all know that games like slots and dice are luck base games, i don't think the gamblers should concentrate more on this than focusing on their game to enjoy the fun in it, giving much thoughts on this will only leads to discouragement and we will begin to think we are being manipulated.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
Well I was doubtful at the beginning when I was not hitting huge wins and saw other people hitting them I thought that maybe RNG-s are rigged (which of course was nonsense thinking).The fact is that soon after I hit some x2000-x3000 multipliers and if the RNG-s were rigged they would never give those multipliers out.Very lately though not longer than 2 weeks ago I hit my biggest life multiplier which was x9833 in Fish Eye slot from Pragmatic,funny as Pragmatic was a provider I hated before because of their super high volatility and yet I hit it there this win,so I believe the RNG casinos as long as huge multipliers are coming out frequently when the casino has a huge user base,as I see in Stake chat almost every day over x4000 multipliers and they also are from Pragmatic slots so Pragmatic slots provider is my number one RNG provider that I fully believe.
After going through a couple of threads on the Gambling Discussion topic I noticed how divided the views are on trusting the RNG and the fairness of most casinos in general. So I wanted to ask everyone - Do you trust the RNGs and why?
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