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Topic: Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide. (Read 4879 times)

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Such a brilliant thread to share with us, thanks alot!
I've came across the provably fair concept when i was trying dice and roulette for the esports gambling websites, these were cool and shilled by alot of Youtubers back in 2017 and never tried to verify the md5 decrypting nor tried to know the whole concept. As you've said in the thread, if you're not checking each bet then you're just getting cheated. Some bookmakers might be cheating, never heard about any case as far as i know but i'm grateful, with this tool we can just lower their chances. Well done!
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I'm on it, gambling sites that has an official thread here and an a campaign here easily generate support and reputation, some of the gambling sites sites here with long history of marketing and advertisement here are respected gambling sites, they will not allowed to advertise here or do a bounty campaign if they are bad actors of the industry, 1XBIT try to run a campaign but failed to get support.

It depends, there are some gambling sites that hire a campaign manager that doesn't really inspect or somehow check the reputation of the gambling site. This could mean that we are still prone to gambling sites that aren't good.

But if we really want, we can still base it on the reputation of the manager as they keep their reputation high, they are expected to study the site first. Which could really help us in our decision.

In being a gambler you need to consider to know the reputation of the casino or the platform you're playing into it. And as well as the reputation of the manager or the one who leads. In gambling, the risk is always higher because it's money that speaks and important. Most of the people look on the profit and earnings than in the experiences. And sometimes people tend to forget to look to this some important things like this. And tend to be the reason why most of the gamblers get lost a lot of earnings. For me, as a gambler you need to verify bet, not just bet but the reputation. It is good to be safe and highly check every situation rather than loosing a lot of money. Gambling is one of the best way to earn and ofcourse to lose.
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I'm on it, gambling sites that has an official thread here and an a campaign here easily generate support and reputation, some of the gambling sites sites here with long history of marketing and advertisement here are respected gambling sites, they will not allowed to advertise here or do a bounty campaign if they are bad actors of the industry, 1XBIT try to run a campaign but failed to get support.

It depends, there are some gambling sites that hire a campaign manager that doesn't really inspect or somehow check the reputation of the gambling site. This could mean that we are still prone to gambling sites that aren't good.

But if we really want, we can still base it on the reputation of the manager as they keep their reputation high, they are expected to study the site first. Which could really help us in our decision.
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Emotion is the tool that will make us a loser in gambling ,because most of the time we lose concentration because of our Feeling ,
That's why it is not advisable to gamble once you are in bad Feeling ,better not to bet and just try next time than to fall for bad effect of emotions.
The emotion will become bigger every time we continue the next rounds, especially if we already losing money. It could attract us to feel sad and we want to try to recover our losses. If you are in a bad feeling, maybe you can take a rest and not doing anything, including playing gambling because that can make you feel worse. That can lead you to spend so much money but you will lose that money.
Take control of your emotions from time to time and so as with your bankroll!
On topic on the question if verifying out bets as a gambler then its a just a normal or must thing to be done to secure out that you are playing with a fair site but people would just
normally automatically presume out that it is already fair when they do saw that there are lots of people do playing which its understandable or logical that this place is good.
There are lots of 3rd party verifier if you do really have doubts towards your bet which you can check out everytime.
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Emotion is the tool that will make us a loser in gambling ,because most of the time we lose concentration because of our Feeling ,
That's why it is not advisable to gamble once you are in bad Feeling ,better not to bet and just try next time than to fall for bad effect of emotions.
The emotion will become bigger every time we continue the next rounds, especially if we already losing money. It could attract us to feel sad and we want to try to recover our losses. If you are in a bad feeling, maybe you can take a rest and not doing anything, including playing gambling because that can make you feel worse. That can lead you to spend so much money but you will lose that money.
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That is true, even if no players are reporting error, some trusted gambling sites consistently develop their platform, finding bugs and looking which should be improved or if something has to be added to improve their platform and services. There are a lot of trusted gambling sites that are dedicated to developing and improving the platform since they know gamblers' demand and expectations increases as some platforms are improving as well.


I think every good online casino should make sure there software is constantly being developed. I see it with a few poker sites I am playing at. There is at least every two week a new update coming out. In todays world we kind of expect some changes constantly, even if it is just a minor tweak for the layout. Props to all the developers working so hard.

What you are saying is true, without new software updates by online casinos it will hurt casino owners and gamblers. It could be that
the algorithm or pattern of the software used by the online casino is being learned to be hacked by hackers. Or it could be that the software
has a bug that makes the gambling game run unfairly and is detrimental to gamblers.

So it is mandatory to periodically gambling sites carry out maintenance and updates, then for gamblers should frequently verify the bets that
have been made. So if there is a problem that must be fixed, it can be reported and corrected immediately by the gambling site owner.
we need to help the gambling owners by reporting the problem if we see a strange activity in the system because bugs and glitches can be used by hackers to exploit the site and if the site becames bankrupt we small and non hacker players are also going to suffer .

most of the time site owners cant detect the issues because they are busy or they are only the one that manage the gambling site .
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We lose but we prefer to lose in a fair and equal way on where you haven't been cheated.
Exactly, I know very well that my chances of profiting from a casino long term are minimal and that even if I did so it will just mean that I was extremely lucky to be able to do it, however I want it to be fair, if besides the house edge the casino gives themselves the ability to change the results after the fact then that is unethical and any casino doing that should be exposed immediately so the community knows it is a waste of time and money to play there.
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That is true, even if no players are reporting error, some trusted gambling sites consistently develop their platform, finding bugs and looking which should be improved or if something has to be added to improve their platform and services. There are a lot of trusted gambling sites that are dedicated to developing and improving the platform since they know gamblers' demand and expectations increases as some platforms are improving as well.


I think every good online casino should make sure there software is constantly being developed. I see it with a few poker sites I am playing at. There is at least every two week a new update coming out. In todays world we kind of expect some changes constantly, even if it is just a minor tweak for the layout. Props to all the developers working so hard.

What you are saying is true, without new software updates by online casinos it will hurt casino owners and gamblers. It could be that
the algorithm or pattern of the software used by the online casino is being learned to be hacked by hackers. Or it could be that the software
has a bug that makes the gambling game run unfairly and is detrimental to gamblers.

So it is mandatory to periodically gambling sites carry out maintenance and updates, then for gamblers should frequently verify the bets that
have been made. So if there is a problem that must be fixed, it can be reported and corrected immediately by the gambling site owner.
hero member
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That is true, even if no players are reporting error, some trusted gambling sites consistently develop their platform, finding bugs and looking which should be improved or if something has to be added to improve their platform and services. There are a lot of trusted gambling sites that are dedicated to developing and improving the platform since they know gamblers' demand and expectations increases as some platforms are improving as well.


I think every good online casino should make sure there software is constantly being developed. I see it with a few poker sites I am playing at. There is at least every two week a new update coming out. In todays world we kind of expect some changes constantly, even if it is just a minor tweak for the layout. Props to all the developers working so hard.
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This is some topic I have been wondering how could be verified in the last few weeks.
It's depend in which gambling site you are playing But mostly verifying so better choose a legit site.

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It is already difficult to beat the odds in a fair game, just imagine if the internal mechanisms of the bet are rigged Huh

Rigged only Happens if your Site is BS ,because mostly Good Site has their Maintenance happen time to time to Prevent this so called rigging ,
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Thanks for sharing this information, I hope one day most of the online betting sites apply provably fair mechanisms in their services.
Most are probably fair but of course nothing is certain because gambling site won't let us Win over them constantly ,i have been gambling for a while in Legit site and yeah Greediness makes me lose mostly.
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The gambling games are only to search enjoyment of playing many gambling games. If you already got that fun thing, maybe you need to stop the game and do not play more rounds because you will not enjoy the games, but it will become a curiosity, especially if you lose your money. That can make you chase your losses, and if you are playing gambling for a longer, it could make you addicted without you realize.
If he is making fun to it, there's no problem with that I think, as long as it will be beneficial to him, the only thing that I think is, he maybe not verifying his game, but it will depends on him, there's no wrong about it, it will only make his addicted if he will be greedy and losing too much and still not checking every bet that he made or checking his transactions, so let him be, as long as he can manage his emotion.
Yes, we can hope that he can manage his emotion, so he does not have to lose much money. It will not be a problem not to verifying the game because as long as he is enjoying the game, and not thinking about winning or losing. He should prevent becoming greedy when he gets the win to enjoy his time in a gambling game. We should let him to what he wants, but we can suggest him to prevent more losses.
Emotion is the tool that will make us a loser in gambling ,because most of the time we lose concentration because of our Feeling ,
That's why it is not advisable to gamble once you are in bad Feeling ,better not to bet and just try next time than to fall for bad effect of emotions.
Every gambling site has got its own edge. For different games the site has got different percentage as house edge. Reputable gambling sites won't make the edge get adjusted to the games for bigger earning. I won't be checking every bet, because I used to go on for a series of bets. Earlier it was little complicated to verify the provably fair functioning of the site. Now every site has made it much user friendly, so if there arises an issue I'll go verify for it rather than checking every bet.

Good move of verifying the site and legitimacy than each bets we do.

Legit sites wont Hurt their reputation that's for sure
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The casino will offer a reward for members who found an error, but if they are honest to all members, they will announce it on their site and attract all members to find an error. If they do that, I am sure that the casino's reputation will get better, and they can get more gamblers who will come and join. Sooner or later, the casino will have more members to play gambling on their site.

That's not always the case, most of the time, even if the gamblers found out an error, the gambling casino refuses to provide the service or compensation to make the gambler feel better. These are the casinos that we should avoid, we should choose a casino that is provably fair and has good customer service that will assist us in times of troubles.

That is true, even if no players are reporting error, some trusted gambling sites consistently develop their platform, finding bugs and looking which should be improved or if something has to be added to improve their platform and services. There are a lot of trusted gambling sites that are dedicated to developing and improving the platform since they know gamblers' demand and expectations increases as some platforms are improving as well.
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The casino will offer a reward for members who found an error, but if they are honest to all members, they will announce it on their site and attract all members to find an error. If they do that, I am sure that the casino's reputation will get better, and they can get more gamblers who will come and join. Sooner or later, the casino will have more members to play gambling on their site.

That's not always the case, most of the time, even if the gamblers found out an error, the gambling casino refuses to provide the service or compensation to make the gambler feel better. These are the casinos that we should avoid, we should choose a casino that is provably fair and has good customer service that will really assist us in times of troubles.
Only newbies are joining such casino's because experience gamblers even the Interface can be distinguished id legit or scam.

And also prevent new casinos specially if not advertised by prominent gamblers for safe keeping.
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The casino will offer a reward for members who found an error, but if they are honest to all members, they will announce it on their site and attract all members to find an error. If they do that, I am sure that the casino's reputation will get better, and they can get more gamblers who will come and join. Sooner or later, the casino will have more members to play gambling on their site.

That's not always the case, most of the time, even if the gamblers found out an error, the gambling casino refuses to provide the service or compensation to make the gambler feel better. These are the casinos that we should avoid, we should choose a casino that is provably fair and has good customer service that will really assist us in times of troubles.
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The gambling games are only to search enjoyment of playing many gambling games. If you already got that fun thing, maybe you need to stop the game and do not play more rounds because you will not enjoy the games, but it will become a curiosity, especially if you lose your money. That can make you chase your losses, and if you are playing gambling for a longer, it could make you addicted without you realize.
If he is making fun to it, there's no problem with that I think, as long as it will be beneficial to him, the only thing that I think is, he maybe not verifying his game, but it will depends on him, there's no wrong about it, it will only make his addicted if he will be greedy and losing too much and still not checking every bet that he made or checking his transactions, so let him be, as long as he can manage his emotion.
Yes, we can hope that he can manage his emotion, so he does not have to lose much money. It will not be a problem not to verifying the game because as long as he is enjoying the game, and not thinking about winning or losing. He should prevent becoming greedy when he gets the win to enjoy his time in a gambling game. We should let him to what he wants, but we can suggest him to prevent more losses.
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Thanks for sharing such an informative update. I didn't know about such control. In 2018 I did some put resources into the betting site and I got an uncommon outcome I begin losing wagers and I was a wonder that I couldn't dominate a solitary match. Today I came to realize what occurs around then. You set aside our time and cash. I will surely check the site next time and verify it. The gambling club is quite an unsafe method to twofold your cash everything is a misrepresentation

Is the site or platform you've been using is a known or have much user on it or does have none? When you do deal with a site that
has a lot of player then you can presume that it is indeed fair.Majority of people would really be just keen on checking out everything
when they had already lost money but before that incident happen they do just bet all they want and dont notice that they had bee rigged out.
We all do have the spare time on verifying things up.
But verify the players also because there are sites that Looks like having many bettors but the truth ?those are just bot to lure gamblers and make them believe that the site is legit and many Players.

Best to play in gambling sites that has been advertised in this forum for long time now, and one of those is My Signature ,777coin .
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Every gambling site has got its own edge. For different games the site has got different percentage as house edge.
They've based it according to how the business works each sites do different survey to know what's more competitive to attract gamblers to play using thier platform.

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Reputable gambling sites won't make the edge get adjusted to the games for bigger earning.

They'll prefer to have a much lesser one to bring more gamblers to the site, one way of calling the attention of the players is HE.

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I won't be checking every bet, because I used to go on for a series of bets.

It's your own decision and your own ways to determine the trust with the platform that you are using,.

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Earlier it was little complicated to verify the provably fair functioning of the site. Now every site has made it much user friendly, so if there arises an issue I'll go verify for it rather than checking every bet.

Gambling house adjust to this feature giving and assurance to all gamblers that they can track the fairness in  a much easier ways to make sure that the sites are willing to investigate if issues arises.
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Thanks for sharing such an informative update. I didn't know about such control. In 2018 I did some put resources into the betting site and I got an uncommon outcome I begin losing wagers and I was a wonder that I couldn't dominate a solitary match. Today I came to realize what occurs around then. You set aside our time and cash. I will surely check the site next time and verify it. The gambling club is quite an unsafe method to twofold your cash everything is a misrepresentation

Is the site or platform you've been using is a known or have much user on it or does have none? When you do deal with a site that
has a lot of player then you can presume that it is indeed fair.Majority of people would really be just keen on checking out everything
when they had already lost money but before that incident happen they do just bet all they want and dont notice that they had bee rigged out.
We all do have the spare time on verifying things up.
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Thanks for sharing such an informative update. I didn't know about such control. In 2018 I did some put resources into the betting site and I got an uncommon outcome I begin losing wagers and I was a wonder that I couldn't dominate a solitary match. Today I came to realize what occurs around then. You set aside our time and cash. I will surely check the site next time and verify it. The gambling club is quite an unsafe method to twofold your cash everything is a misrepresentation

The gambling games are only to search enjoyment of playing many gambling games. If you already got that fun thing, maybe you need to stop the game and do not play more rounds because you will not enjoy the games, but it will become a curiosity, especially if you lose your money. That can make you chase your losses, and if you are playing gambling for a longer, it could make you addicted without you realize.
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Thanks for sharing such an informative update. I didn't know about such control. In 2018 I did some put resources into the betting site and I got an uncommon outcome I begin losing wagers and I was a wonder that I couldn't dominate a solitary match. Today I came to realize what occurs around then. You set aside our time and cash. I will surely check the site next time and verify it. The gambling club is quite an unsafe method to twofold your cash everything is a misrepresentation
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