All about the money for the pharma helping implement the new normal
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Have you ever known anyone in the history of the United States of America? That could be present sure exactly what the Congress can do that money to go out the door immediately.
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That's real man.
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John: Well, they have the house and
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Adam: and they're gonna impeach the money they're gonna impeach the previous president. That's
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John: what they're gonna do here still impeach Trump. Where's the money?
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Adam: Got it. Yeah, Show me the money. Alright, so I think you're right. And then we need to categorize these people. You have a team, a GOV. We have team pharma. And we have team CCP, these are the people all vying for the different agendas. And now we go to it. This is a tough one because it's on one hand, it's t med with Dr. Ryan Riviera. On the other hand, ABC kind of team China.
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Unknown: So who isn't in this battle royale? Dr. Rivera because of the new variants of the Coronavirus, especially the UK variant, there's concerned about another big surge of infections in the next few weeks, should we prioritize giving more people the first shot of the vaccine and delay second shots to try to get ahead of this neck surge in today's data coming out of Israel now, since they vaccinated such a large proportion of their population. And one of the studies showed that after the first dose, you only had 33% protection. So we need to get more data. But if 33% ends up being accurate, I would be very concerned about policies that would encourage us to skip or substantially delay second doses.
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Adam: Okay, so the 33 obviously code, I've never heard that the first dose only gives you 33% protection. That they're they've been all over the map. Fauci at one point said 21 days between the Madonna (probably means moderna) first and check second shot 28 days between the Pfizer first and second shot, but you know, four to six weeks will be fine. It's real scientific. So this is so Dr. radiora talk to reveal. Yeah, you can mix and match data if you if you really need to do whatever you want. 33% Okay, what else does he have to say?
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Unknown: Let's talk about this man who previously recovered from COVID, who's now been reinfected with a South African variant. This man is in Israel. But how much of a concern is this case here in the US? Well, you know, I'll
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say reinfection itself is not super surprising, natural to COVID probably last six to nine months. So we're now reaching that part of the pandemic where people who are infected in the first half are susceptible again to getting reinfected.
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Adam: There's the alley everybody you get only a couple of months you antibodies you're not really Oh, no. Oh, no, you know what that means? You're
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Unknown: announcing its planning to study whether a third dose may be needed after six months to 12 months to be more effective against variance.
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Adam: Hmm. Oh, yeah.
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John: Ellen DeGeneres predicted this on this show months ago, Ellen.
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Adam: Ellen. Ellen DeGeneres had Rita Wilson on her show. She and Tom Hanks were the first celebrities to be in oozing infected human resources. And well, she's got news, you
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Unknown: know, I they said I wouldn't have to get tested for three months because you know, it lasts at least that long. Have you been tested sense just to see if you're, if you still have the antibodies?
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Yes. Sadly, I don't have the antibodies anymore. I just tested like two weeks ago, and I don't have the antibodies anymore. But it's okay. I have a mask and hand sanitizer.
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Back like everybody else.
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Mm hmm.
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John: Now this becomes a very interesting, you are science based media. So you don't have the antibodies after getting the disease? What is the vaccine supposed to do? It's supposed to give way way any boy. So (mumbled sounds like antibody)
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Adam: I have the definition which is changing. I have the definition. Oh, yes. Would Merriam Webster be changing that? Let's see, they change the drop of a hat if somebody just asks the previous definition of a vaccine is quote a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases per bit prepared from the causative agent of a disease itself. products or a synthetic substitute treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease. And it has now become Merriam Webster has two definitions a, an anti genetic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated pathogen, pathogenic agent, or one of its components or products. It doesn't say anything about immunity. And definition B now is a preparation of genetic material, such as a strand of synthesize messenger RNA that is used by the cells of the antibody to produce an antigenic substance. These are not vaccines
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John: know that we do we isolated that fact for some time.
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Adam: Well, but should should there not be some kind of false advertising?
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John: That's probably why the definitions changed. So it's not false advertising. interests are going to be false advertising. Your Honor, look at this definition.
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Adam: I have the insert the vaccine insert here it's in the show notes. For the Pfizer biontech COVID-19 vaccine. What is the Pfizer biontech COVID-19 vaccine? The Pfizer biotech COVID-19 vaccine is an unapproved vaccine that may prevent COVID-19 there is no FDA approval approved vaccine to prevent COVID-19. The FDA is authorized the emergency use of Pfizer bio and tech COVID-19 vaccine to present COVID-19 individuals 16 years of age and older on an emergency use authorization. So
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John: the lawsuits watch the way they're gonna get their act.
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Unknown: So it just doesn't it just doesn't do what a vaccine traditionally does. What it does do this vaccine is the following the financial impact of the COVID-19 vaccine was front and center. As Pfizer released its quarterly results on Tuesday. Pfizer expects to see a $15 billion bouncing sales this year. vaccine developed with its German partner beyond tech drugmakers racing to deliver 2 billion doses this year. As countries sign up for one of the first vaccines approved to combat a pandemic that has killed over 2 million people globally. The COVID-19 vaccine brought in $154 million in sales for the drugmaker in the fourth quarter, but that was just a fraction of the roughly $12 billion in company revenues. Since the vaccine was only approved in the closing weeks of the quarter, overall,
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fourth quarter
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Adam: profits came in below expectations. Stop there you get the idea. It's a bonanza, it is a bonanza.
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John: Let's see what else would be the point. That's I have one vaccine clip which is as a little complication, which is the j&j clip, this vaccine j&j one shot.
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Unknown: Oh, yesterday, Johnson said that he gets one shot vaccine was 66% effective at preventing moderate to severe illness. not as strong as the two shot vaccines already approved, but still helpful. As states experienced vaccine shortages. If approved, the company says it would supply 100 million doses to the US by June.
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John: The clip I don't have which I don't understand quite why but the the commentary on the on the AstraZeneca vaccine is that it and maybe the Johnson Johnson is that it not only provides immunity, but it keeps you from spreading the disease. Have you heard this one? Just
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Adam: because it's an eight is a true vaccine in the truest sense of the word. It's an attenuated virus.
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John: But what what is it got to do with what why does it slow spreading? What is the difference between? I mean, what does it have to do with spreading? Because it's marketing brah
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Adam: it's marketing. All I'm hearing is 3366 up to 32 shots, four weeks, six weeks booster. Come on now. If we're Oh my gosh. You know, I went to the spin class yesterday. downtown Austin. It's like, mask everywhere. It's going to be 80 degrees today. It's beautiful. Everyone's walking outside with their damn mask on giving me stink eye. It's really just I don't know what to say. I think I think I got leap. Scott Gottlieb was on Face the Nation. And we know him. Actually, here's here's who he was.
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Unknown: We want to go now to former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb.
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He sits on the board of Pfizer as well as alumina.
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Adam: Do you think you would have a positive message for us or a positive message for Pfizer? Oh, let's see. Let's see what Pfizer's internal memo says. are cities
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Unknown: like Miami places where they are seeing b 117. This b 117.
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There it is. strain of the UK circulate?
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Are they really at risk of being overrun?
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I think Miami is at the highest risk right now Miami and Southern California. If you look at where b 117 is right now in the country, about half the cases that were turning over in Southern California and in Florida, and the cities are the hotspots, San Diego, Miami. So I think that the possibility is that we're not going to see a national epidemic would be 117. At least this in the spring in the summertime, it's a risk to the fall. But what we're likely to see is regionalised epidemics with this new variant.
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Adam: Regional, regional. Okay,
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John: that's a we we have that patient over there. That'd be 117. guy. Yeah, he's sick as a dog. Let's move them to Miami. Florida, these people down there that listening to were
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Unknown: not on board with the program, long will it take us to get the booster shots that you say may be necessary?
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Well, I think we could definitely have it in time for the fall. And we need to come up with a regulatory framework that allows the boosters to be licensed on the ability to demonstrate that they can produce antibody levels. And FDA is working on that they've talked about developing guidance that would allow companies to develop boosters to the existing vaccines that could be licensed just on the basis of proving that in three or 400 patients, they can induce antibody levels at a sufficient level that are protected against these new variants. And so I think that framework hold that'd be mapped out sorry.
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John: Did he say reduce antibody levels? Yes.
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Unknown: That could be licensed just on the basis of proving that in three or 400 patients, they can induce antibody levels at a sufficient level
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Adam: induce you right, induce I'm sorry,
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Unknown: well, that are protective against these new variants. And so I think that framework is going to be mapped out in the companies have said they're already working on those new boosters. We could have them in time for the fall across all these vaccines. There's no reason we can't do that. And the platforms that the companies used to develop these vaccines, these synthetic platforms lend themselves to those quick adaptations.
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Adam: Very important what he's saying here, this is the push towards anything wrong with you. We got the platform baby, we just spin up some bio and tech crap, shoot it into a messenger RNA. Ooh, good to go. That is the pitch. That's what we're gonna do moving forward and also home pops up again. He is after all on the President's covid 19 response team. This time on ABC America
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Unknown: this morning. Doctors in Israel say a man who previously recovered from the virus has been reinfected with the South African variant. One experts is sounding the alarm about a looming wave of infections here in the US.
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The fact is that the surge that is likely to occur with this new variant from England is going to happen in the next six to 14 weeks. And if we see that happen, which my 45 years in the trenches tell us we will we are going to see something like we have not seen yet in this country.
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This guy, remember he's the
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John: guy Mr. doom and gloom he's a winner.
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Adam: He's this is the guy who predicted two and a half million dead.
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John: Yeah, yes, this is and we have to follow him closely, because he's better he did without cheese out. Well, Fauci is like blood Biden binders guys be beside himself, because Biden's ran on a platform of Trump has killed 300,000 Americans. Biden's gonna kill 300,400,000. If he's not careful,
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Adam: no one's gonna put those numbers on the screen anymore. Please, Fauci, you're right. osterholm has been, has been promoted to the mainstream. He's doing ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and Fauci is down doing YouTube videos with Moe talk with Monica.
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Unknown: But for the people that are diabetic and have high blood pressure, already maybe being treated with chemotherapy, do you still suggest that they be vaccinated?
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John: Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, they more than anyone should not get away and should not avoid vaccine.
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Unknown: Did you hear that?
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