Do Your Own Research - What Does it really mean

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Quote from: Taskford on September 30, 2022, 08:30:16 AM

Not actually for newbies only but actually even for old time crypto users because we always don't know the intention of people in internet since they might hide something bad and scam us if we are not keen into details about what we are going thru. As well us if we don't do anything background checking on the platforms we wish to invest so DYOR is really for everyone especially we are in crypto space where risk is so high.

Yep. It is both for new and old crypto users. Even though we have done a deep analysis before suggesting someone, there should be an opportunity for a mistake or failure. That's why it is needed to state "DYOR", to realize to people that the accuracy may not be 100% correct and surely no guarantee to success.

Quote from: ShowOff on September 30, 2022, 02:49:52 PM

At least when someone is responsible for their trading and investing activities then they may be able to control their mentality when prices do not match expectations. This is also important for every trader and investor to think about even if they are experienced.

Controlling emotion or mentality isn't something easy, even old traders may be out of control once they experience an unexpected thing (bad things). But every trader should have a chance to manage their emotions/mentality well with a lot of experience and good learning during their trading activities. Sometimes experiences make people more mature or wiser.

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Quote from: libert19 on October 01, 2022, 12:18:25 AM

It depends on individual and I wouldn't expect anyone to follow my advise on what I deem right.

dyor, you alone are responsible for your decisions.

Following other's advice could be helpful sometimes but the risk associated with it is that a bad project can easily be promoted by a member of the team as a good project if the investors do not have any other source of information.

But it is far better to follow your guideline and do your findings yourself before you buy any coin so doing your research is very important than relying on third-party advice.

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Besides looking at the project's team ( this day, many of them like to keep it anonymous), the next important place to look at is the social media handle of the project. That's how I go about my DYOR. Most times, I just go straight to the social media; especially Telegram and Twitter for the project to followup discussions. Interactions there will easily enable me have a feel from tech gurus of what could likely be going on with the project. If the telegram chats show aggressiveness and belligerence, I steer clear. In cases where I acted otherwise, I paid for my blind trust. Again, it's not enough to tell people to DYOR because they may not even know where to look at. There are people who look at charts only for their research and believe it's ok. There are also cases where that worked out well for them. Crypto is an industry full of uncertainty. There's no single rule for all.

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It depends on individual and I wouldn't expect anyone to follow my advise what I deem right.

dyor, you alone are responsible for your decisions.

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Quote from: Renampun on September 30, 2022, 03:54:12 PM

Going back a bit, I once asked my professor what 'do your own research' meant and I got a pretty simple answer that made me think a little hard; it is "never invest in a business, but invest in the person/group that runs the business".
Here I understand that no matter how good and potential the business is, if those who manage it are not competent, the results will be bad. you also mention about community and that I think is true. a competent developer must be able to balance the community they work with and behave as professionally as possible.

Well, it was a part of the research and this is very important to verify the potentiality of the project before risking some amounts in it for this will give us some assurance. Like what you did is just simply knowing more about the project and this is how to asses if this project can be trusted or not. We are doing DYOR for the sake of not blaming others but just ourselves in case we fail. Because it is our money and therefore, we also know how to decide our own, not relying on other people.

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Going back a bit, I once asked my professor what 'do your own research' meant and I got a pretty simple answer that made me think a little hard; it is "never invest in a business, but invest in the person/group that runs the business".
Here I understand that no matter how good and potential the business is, if those who manage it are not competent, the results will be bad. you also mention about community and that I think is true. a competent developer must be able to balance the community they work with and behave as professionally as possible.

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I think every trader and investor should at least have this kind of mindset before they invest or trade. The risk of loss in crypto is very real because we involve real money. Analysis should help every trader to make entries at the right time although it is always possible not to be as good as others do. Do an analysis, it is always recommended even though in the end the analysis will not guarantee the benefits obtained.

At least when someone is responsible for their trading and investing activities then they may be able to control their mentality when prices do not match expectations. This is also important for every trader and investor to think about even if they are experienced.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on September 27, 2022, 04:30:31 PM

People say Do you own research to wave any responsibility for their words, and to add some sophistication to their advice. On practice it's a meaningless phrase, because newbies don't know how to do their own research, and if someone were to teach them, it would no longer be a newbies own research.

Why do you think "DYOR" is only addressed to newbies? I think it is addressed to anyone who reads the comment. Someone used "DYOR" to remind people that it is just a suggestion/opinion/speculation and he doesn't take any responsibility for the risks. Regarding whether the reader can do their own research or not, I think everyone has the ability to do analysis or research. Even a newbie should know how to analyze something, although his analysis or research isn't as well as experienced people. You can't claim that a newbie is like a kid who doesn't know anything.

Not actually for newbies only but actually even for old time crypto users because we always don't know the intention of people in internet since they might hide something bad and scam us if we are not keen into details about what we are going thru. As well us if we don't do anything background checking on the platforms we wish to invest so DYOR is really for everyone especially we are in crypto space where risk is so high.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on September 27, 2022, 04:30:31 PM

People say Do you own research to wave any responsibility for their words, and to add some sophistication to their advice. On practice it's a meaningless phrase, because newbies don't know how to do their own research, and if someone were to teach them, it would no longer be a newbies own research.

Why do you think "DYOR" is only addressed to newbies? I think it is addressed to anyone who reads the comment. Someone used "DYOR" to remind people that it is just a suggestion/opinion/speculation and he doesn't take any responsibility for the risks. Regarding whether the reader can do their own research or not, I think everyone has the ability to do analysis or research. Even a newbie should know how to analyze something, although his analysis or research isn't as well as experienced people. You can't claim that a newbie is like a kid who doesn't know anything.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 27, 2022, 04:23:02 PM

DYOR has become a regular slang in the crypto space that its even used often than its needed

There's no limit to taking a research on either a project or speculating on price movement, ones it is appropriately done without misconception and of course there's nothing bad in doing that especially when a fact is needed to be establish by a newbie or even an experienced user

Quote from: Zilon on September 27, 2022, 04:23:02 PM

I beg to say this that many crypto enthusiast who use this word don't even know how to start a research about a project. Some feel it starts and ends in chart patterns, ATHs and ATLs

this is an aspect that talks only on taking research on currency price by speculation, here you give a closer study on the volatile price movement within a specific time and use it candlestick to draw some highlights to predict upon on a chart flow.

Quote from: Zilon on September 27, 2022, 04:23:02 PM

Making research about a project goes beyond mere candle stick interpretations and its even deeper than price actions and volatility, Market Capitalisation and total supply can be considered as a measure for predicting a good project but its way deeper than that

Don't mix it all up, if you're to take a research on a project, its an entire different thing to do from taking research on price movement by speculating the candlestick, so you are bringing two kinds of research together here which are teo different things and should be conducted on different parameters.

Quote from: Zilon on September 27, 2022, 04:23:02 PM

To get the best of any project at all it takes active participation, question and contributions that way you can tell if a project has the tendency to last on a long term goal

Be careful in this regards because many of them have sweet mouth and can say a millions things they won't achieve or work towards achieving, I think all you need here is to conduct their past records and if untraceable then forget it, because they've got alot of means to manipulate reviews and feedbacks and the likes about their project just to seek for many preys.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on September 27, 2022, 04:30:31 PM

People say Do you own research to wave any responsibility for their words, and to add some sophistication to their advice. On practice it's a meaningless phrase, because newbies don't know how to do their own research, and if someone were to teach them, it would no longer be a newbies own research. Trading is the only sphere were people are told to do their own research, and it's not a coincidence - this phrase is just a waver of responsibility. No one tells people to do their own research in language studying or farming or mathematics.

That is true that the world does not hold too much meaning, but then there are some newbies who will still ask for guideline on how to do their own research, I had an experience with a newbie some time ago where I wanted to introduce a new investment proposal to him and I gave home the name of the company to do more personal findings about the company before investing in the share and he asked me a very simple question that how did he do the research and what are the things he should look out for during his research. That kind of harmless question helps the newbie to get a table of content to research about. So doing your research is a way for new investors to build personal knowledge of the project before considering either investing in them or not.

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Quote from: sheenshane on September 27, 2022, 07:04:28 PM

Quote from: Zilon on September 27, 2022, 04:23:02 PM

A research can't be done outside it's main domain which is it's community. To get the best of any project at all it takes active participation, question and contributions that way you can tell if a project has the tendency to last on a long term goal

I tend to agree with this, you can't conclude that it's a potential project a first glance. It should be always best if you will engage closely with them and watch closely their activity before you will decide for yourself and rate them by your own perception based on your DYOR.

DYOR isn't not just reading the all documents of the project like reading the Whitepaper, Roadmap or etc. It's all about engaging them, joining the community, find the real utility which is you can determine them as a good and potential ones.

It’s more on experience that will really help you to pinpoint which one is good and has high potentials and which one is not. The reason why most investors only put a small amount of money for initial investment, so that if they lose, it will be an amount they can afford to lose. DYOR alone is not enough, you have to engage and experience how the project moves, even if it means losing in your first attempt.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on September 27, 2022, 06:34:33 PM

It's the same as saying "this is not a financial advice", "don't take my word for it"..
It means I gave you an advice but I will not be held responsible if things go wrong. And it's so popular here simply because the crypto market is the most volatile market where things can go really bad.
After all "everyone have to make their own research".

You can follow other’s ideas and advices, but in the end the final decision is yours. The reason why we have to make our own thorough research in the first place so we will know which best way to take. Not just for crypto investments but definitely for all types of investments as they have their own risks, most particularly with crypto that is highly volatile and unpredictable.

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Do your Own Research = I am not responsible if you do something wrong.
Not a Financial Advice = I am not responsible if you do something wrong.

People use those so they don't get accused of bad advice.
Suppose, You love Trading Bitcoin, and you have shared how you get some profit by trading. But, there are always some people who will try to do the same thing, but they may not be able to get a profit. Everyone has their own strategy and should follow themselves, not others. So, I would also say "DYOR" Grin

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Quote from: Zilon on September 27, 2022, 04:23:02 PM

DYOR has become a regular slang in the crypto space that its even used often than its needed. I beg to say this that many crypto enthusiast who use this word don't even know how to start a research about a project. Some feel it starts and ends in chart patterns, ATHs and ATLs. Making research about a project goes beyond mere candle stick interpretations and its even deeper than price actions and volatility, Market Capitalisation and total supply can be considered as a measure for predicting a good project but its way deeper than that. Not all white papers are even sincere enough to stick to the plan of the project.

Well, knowing the basics isn't bad as you have put it, knowing all-time high and all-time low is part of a DYOR, any user who out of their time check all that is better than someone who just jumps on the ship because others are buying and also, you see the concept of research varies with people, the way I might do deep research about a project might be different the way MR A will do his own, however, having all the necessary input from different people would help in making the right decision. You may also do your own research and still get mislead by wrong information though.

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A project that will be profitable on a long run must have an active community and a good Moderation most especially for a decentralised project. Such project must have good engagements and rules governing the community. The mod will be active to attend to complaints, disputes, questions and the next plans or phase of the project. This way you can tell if there is possible liquidation in the near future.

This also depends on the project, some don't have Telegram or Discord groups. One of the major gathering spots for cryptocurrency enthusiasts is Twitter, but it doesn't imply the platform actively responds to inquiries. I occasionally visit project channels where only the admin is permitted to submit helpful information, users aren't even permitted to post there.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 27, 2022, 04:23:02 PM

DYOR has become a regular slang in the crypto space that its even used often than its needed. I beg to say this that many crypto enthusiast who use this word don't even know how to start a research about a project. Some feel it starts and ends in chart patterns, ATHs and ATLs. Making research about a project goes beyond mere candle stick interpretations and its even deeper than price actions and volatility, Market Capitalisation and total supply can be considered as a measure for predicting a good project but its way deeper than that. Not all white papers are even sincere enough to stick to the plan of the project.

Do Your Own Research (DYOR) is a phrase that doesn't imply to what is written. Its meaning is not denotive, so it shouldn't be taken seriously in the real context.
To be more specific on my explanation, it will be more clear if I say that DYOR is a disclaimer, which means whatever outcome you have as a result of the decision you took is liable to you and would be said it is out of your own research, even when you did none. That is the implied meaning of DYOR.

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Doing your own research (DYOR) will be much easier if you know what exactly to research about. Because just checking about a project on Google can also be called research, but not deep research. As you are quick to add a disclaimer to your financial advice and tell whoever is listening to do their own research, also try to point out some key areas for the person to research on as a way of further assisting them to make a good financial decision.

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Quote from: alik111 on September 28, 2022, 01:03:20 PM

Though DYOR has become a crypto slang but it's the most necessary thing to make profit in crypto. But we have to learn the proper way about researching any project. We should follow all their activities, team works and roadmap to judge a project properly.

Doing your own research doesn't mean you will make profit. The particular coin/project you are doing your research on is absolutely important, you can follow the 'activities', 'team work' and 'roadmap' of a worthless/pump and dump coin/project all you want, and even if it prolly looked good at the beginning of your research, that won't stop the coin from dumping sooner rather than later, because that is what pump and dump coins do. Thus imo, first things first is to do a mini research about coins that are sustainable/long term, before selecting and then doing your full research on it before investing.

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Though DYOR has become a crypto slang but it's the most necessary thing to make profit in crypto. But we have to learn the proper way about researching any project. We should follow all their activities, team works and roadmap to judge a project properly.

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One very good friend once taught me: If something confuses you at first sight, then you should listen to your intuition. Whether you're new or not, the fact that skepticism outweighs trust speaks directly to the fact that the project may turn out to be a scam. And of course, all the flags that concern the team and the white document also play a role. But keep in mind that just because everything looks very nice and promises big profits, this does not mean that this will continue in the future.
In a word, look for cons, and if there are a lot of them, just leave.

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