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legendary
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Vaccination is good for the health but it is not scientifically proven that vaccinated people have a healthy and longer life compared to other persons. This topic needs a lot of research from the top doctors and medical scientists. I think every business should donate a little from their share to this cause as it will be a common success for everyone if we make it clear if vaccination helps for a better health life.

Proven vaccination is good, but you need to consider the fact that viruses are constantly mutating and it may not always be effective. Also, if a person has allergic reactions to the vaccine, then it is better not to put the vaccine.

Proven vaccination in its simple form might be acceptable, or even good at times. But the bad part is the people who control what goes into the vaccination. When they stick mercury in shots, there is a hint something might be wrong with the system.

On top of the above, while a vaccine might prove beneficial for the immediate problem, long term studies show that it can be detrimental for other things in other ways.

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Vaccination is good for the health but it is not scientifically proven that vaccinated people have a healthy and longer life compared to other persons. This topic needs a lot of research from the top doctors and medical scientists. I think every business should donate a little from their share to this cause as it will be a common success for everyone if we make it clear if vaccination helps for a better health life.

Proven vaccination is good, but you need to consider the fact that viruses are constantly mutating and it may not always be effective. Also, if a person has allergic reactions to the vaccine, then it is better not to put the vaccine.
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Now there is a lot of conflicting information about the harm and benefits of vaccinations.

Of course, and it's very hard to find which is trustworthy source of information.
It's like with Bitcoin: would the banks fall in love with Bitcoin unless they can benefit from it?
In the same way such a big industry like the pharmaceutical one will not agree with the possibility such claims are for real.
Most of the reputable books and studies in medicine are done under the pharmaceutical companies' patronage.

So you can believe some unknown John Doe about the bad effects, or you can believe the reputable scientists that made some studies in some pharma company labs.
Or you can suspect John Doe he has some evil plans about the wold or pharma or you can blame the industry that profit is more important that the humans. (Because if vaccines are declared officially bad it means a ton of money to be spent to research for something better).

Right now there are journalists that try this and that, but again, it's hard to tell if they find the best info they could or just try to attract more views for their articles and get some extra pennies.
The topic of stimulation is truly inexhaustible. Especially if you take into account how much disgusting propaganda lies about vaccinations accumulated over 200 years, during which they systematically undermine people's health, destroying their immune system.
legendary
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Now there is a lot of conflicting information about the harm and benefits of vaccinations.

Of course, and it's very hard to find which is trustworthy source of information.
It's like with Bitcoin: would the banks fall in love with Bitcoin unless they can benefit from it?
In the same way such a big industry like the pharmaceutical one will not agree with the possibility such claims are for real.
Most of the reputable books and studies in medicine are done under the pharmaceutical companies' patronage.

So you can believe some unknown John Doe about the bad effects, or you can believe the reputable scientists that made some studies in some pharma company labs.
Or you can suspect John Doe he has some evil plans about the wold or pharma or you can blame the industry that profit is more important that the humans. (Because if vaccines are declared officially bad it means a ton of money to be spent to research for something better).

Right now there are journalists that try this and that, but again, it's hard to tell if they find the best info they could or just try to attract more views for their articles and get some extra pennies.
legendary
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Now there is a lot of conflicting information about the harm and benefits of vaccinations. To begin with, you need to learn the scientific information about diseases, vaccinations yourself and then already make a decision and be responsible for the lives of your children.

Not when/where vaccinations are mandatory.  It would be pointless unless one can leave the country or figure out and navigate the buy-off which will likely be available to the elite.  Most people will just take the blue pill and cuddle up against the bosom of the civil authorities.  Things culminating in a leadership driven bloodbath which often target children seem to happen regularly with human civilizations, and especially when they have no worthy adversaries to go to war with (e.g., the Aztecs).

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Now there is a lot of conflicting information about the harm and benefits of vaccinations. To begin with, you need to learn the scientific information about diseases, vaccinations yourself and then already make a decision and be responsible for the lives of your children.
legendary
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Are you telling that countries accepting vaccines from America had lost their courage to fight. Its as if the vaccines has some kind of effect on the courage of the people. Thats a weird theory but nevertheless it could be possibly true. If you think of the countries that are loyal dogs to America, those are the countries where American made vaccines were distributed.

FBIAnon says that if all of the whistleblower information was released in one batch, the rest of the world would declare war on the U.S. immediately.  Thus, making use of the info it is a tricky operation even if run by protagonists who have decency and general good-will for humankind at heart.

Of course it is possible that the FBIAnon guy is a fraud or a troll, but it's also possible that he is not.  The deep state of the U.S. has had a fairly well documented, well funded, and intense interest in any possible technological means of manipulating human populations.  Also a boost via Operation Paperclip.

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If this is true then they should conduct a big and fast studies on this issue. If vaccines can really bring health issues then childrens are in risk of being sickly when they grow old due to this vaccines. If this claim is true or not then they should stop releasing vaccines until everything is proven. If it is proven to be safe then vaccination could be launch again but if there are no results yet all vaccination in the world should be suspended in the moment.

Do you really believe in all this BS? Just compare the lifespans from the countries where vaccination is wide-spread (such as Japan and Canada) to those in countries where the coverage is poor (such as Pakistan and Somalia). You will get the answer.  

Exactly!

Japan didn't really start getting vaccinated until after WW2, when American influence started taking over. Since then we haven't had any kamikaze pilots from Japan. But we still have Pakistani and Somalian suicide bombers.

Perhaps vaccinations have taken away the masculine boldness of Japs just like they have Americans. Of course, this is difficult to determine, since Japs didn't grow any hair on their chests prior to being vaccinated. Just the same...

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Are you telling that countries accepting vaccines from America had lost their courage to fight. Its as if the vaccines has some kind of effect on the courage of the people. Thats a weird theory but nevertheless it could be possibly true. If you think of the countries that are loyal dogs to America, those are the countries where American made vaccines were distributed.
legendary
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Vaccination is good for the health but it is not scientifically proven that vaccinated people have a healthy and longer life compared to other persons. This topic needs a lot of research from the top doctors and medical scientists. I think every business should donate a little from their share to this cause as it will be a common success for everyone if we make it clear if vaccination helps for a better health life.
exactly we can't affirmed that those who already vaccinated have advantage with those who doesn't have, since i'm leaving in a third world country i seen more children coming from an A status lifestyle which vaccinated are always went to the hospital and got sick from time to time comparing for those children which never been vaccinated and leaves outside eating unhealthy foods.
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Vaccination is good for the health but it is not scientifically proven that vaccinated people have a healthy and longer life compared to other persons. This topic needs a lot of research from the top doctors and medical scientists. I think every business should donate a little from their share to this cause as it will be a common success for everyone if we make it clear if vaccination helps for a better health life.
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Everyone decides to do vaccinations or not. Personally for me it is very unpleasant since childhood. I think they can only be used in very emergency cases.
legendary
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Isn't Japan below replacement levels (in addition to being the source of over half of the world's general weirdness)? 

Japan doesn't have any Mexican or Muslim minorities, so their population is declining. But in most of the developed nations, that is the case. The natives are declining in number, while the population of the immigrants are increasing. Even in the United States, among the Non-Hispanic white population there are almost equal number of births to deaths. But considering the fact that some 7% to 8% of the children born to white mothers are non-white, the population is actually declining.
legendary
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Exactly!

Japan didn't really start getting vaccinated until after WW2, when American influence started taking over. Since then we haven't had any kamikaze pilots from Japan. But we still have Pakistani and Somalian suicide bombers.

Perhaps vaccinations have taken away the masculine boldness of Japs just like they have Americans. Of course, this is difficult to determine, since Japs didn't grow any hair on their chests prior to being vaccinated. Just the same...

Isn't Japan below replacement levels (in addition to being the source of over half of the world's general weirdness)?  Gee, I wonder how that has happened?  At least their leadership has had the basic decency to be a little more careful with their schedules and somehow found it in themselves to tell the Gardasil eugenicists to go fuck themselves.  The society may survive yet...at least in sufficient numbers to at least design cars and excavators for me.

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I was just thinking (while enjoying my Japanese excavator today) progressive tend to love them some buttfuckin'.  Even when they don't they probably have to do it in order to stay cool and trendy with their peers sometimes.  With all the tissue tearing and fecal matter and the like I'd bet that the incidents of negative health impacts from buttfucking exceed by a wide margin the 1/100,000-ish numbers we've been tossing about vis-a-vis 'vaccine preventable disease' problems.

I'm sure that none of the progressives who are hot to trot about mandating injections and withhold govt services from non-complaint individuals will have no problem at all when some new group of fundamentalists (Christian, Muslim, whatever) takes over and puts the boot on their neck.  Especially if it is demonstrable that buttfucking is a legitimately bigger threat to 'the collective' than mumps.  No doubt they would totally welcome a microchip implanted in their bunghole just to help keep tabs on any blunt intruders.

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Speaking of bio-social engineering:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuigSuKqZqI

legendary
Activity: 3906
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If this is true then they should conduct a big and fast studies on this issue. If vaccines can really bring health issues then childrens are in risk of being sickly when they grow old due to this vaccines. If this claim is true or not then they should stop releasing vaccines until everything is proven. If it is proven to be safe then vaccination could be launch again but if there are no results yet all vaccination in the world should be suspended in the moment.

Do you really believe in all this BS? Just compare the lifespans from the countries where vaccination is wide-spread (such as Japan and Canada) to those in countries where the coverage is poor (such as Pakistan and Somalia). You will get the answer.  

Exactly!

Japan didn't really start getting vaccinated until after WW2, when American influence started taking over. Since then we haven't had any kamikaze pilots from Japan. But we still have Pakistani and Somalian suicide bombers.

Perhaps vaccinations have taken away the masculine boldness of Japs just like they have Americans. Of course, this is difficult to determine, since Japs didn't grow any hair on their chests prior to being vaccinated. Just the same...

 Grin
legendary
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If this is true then they should conduct a big and fast studies on this issue. If vaccines can really bring health issues then childrens are in risk of being sickly when they grow old due to this vaccines. If this claim is true or not then they should stop releasing vaccines until everything is proven. If it is proven to be safe then vaccination could be launch again but if there are no results yet all vaccination in the world should be suspended in the moment.

Do you really believe in all this BS? Just compare the lifespans from the countries where vaccination is wide-spread (such as Japan and Canada) to those in countries where the coverage is poor (such as Pakistan and Somalia). You will get the answer. 
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If this is true then they should conduct a big and fast studies on this issue. If vaccines can really bring health issues then childrens are in risk of being sickly when they grow old due to this vaccines. If this claim is true or not then they should stop releasing vaccines until everything is proven. If it is proven to be safe then vaccination could be launch again but if there are no results yet all vaccination in the world should be suspended in the moment.
legendary
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I don't like the idea of too much state involvement in people's personal lives, but I also don't believe herd immunity should be compromised because some parents refuse to vaccinate their children - it puts others in danger that may not be able to be vaccinated for real medical reasons (such as allergic reactions)

I don't think full on prosecution of parents is fair, but I do think they should be "persuaded" to vaccinate - for example some countries have started stopping welfare/benefits for parents who refuse to vaccinate their children. That seems like a good idea to me.

Now you show your true face.

You behave like a narcissistic little dictator, who knows it all and likes to play god. It's disgusting.

It's unbearable to read your delusional belief in medical pseudo-science and open disrespect for individual freedom.

You are now on my ignore list.

Another Hitler wolf in "kind, caring, leftist" sheepskin.

These are the most dangerous virus on the planet and we need a forced eradication plan to remove them from the planet. Ignore is too Libertarian, hit him with his own philosophical insanity.

Luckily this kind of mental disease ultimately leads to an increased chance of self-eradication. It feels like a waste of energy to argue with people that are in a state of religious delusion about their almighty pseudo-science, constructing their own reality based on confirmation bias. Eventually, many of these people get hit by reality and their genes will slowly vanish from the gene pool.
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Anyone who pays much attention to contentious scienctific debates in our time (vaccinations, GMOs, global climate change, etc) recognizes 'peer review' as a laughable circle-jerk which means little or nothing when corporate money is involved and corporate profits are on the line.

That pinhead protokol doesn't have the intellect to incorporate such holistic analysis.

Smallpox was eradicated from the Earth due to vaccination (pretty much, some strains still exist in high security virology labs, but the general population doesn't suffer from it because it was destroyed through vaccination programmes). That in itself is a some pretty thorough evidence that some vaccines at least work as they should. Many other serious diseases are now under control through vaccination.

You repeat your same error from the AGW thread, in that you think a century is of any significance at all relative to the repeating cycles throughout all of recorded history.

Smallpox is not eradicated. It may be dormant and eventually will mutate and pounce again.

The benefit from some vaccinations may be worth it, but we can't know the costs. We don't know what impacts we are making. For example, by ruining human natural selection for surviving viruses, we may be preparing ourselves for a megadeath due to allowing many of the weak DNA to proliferate (procreate).

A. This chart only looks at deaths in the US from 1900-1965 (a pretty small amount of time),

And you conveniently argue against the relevance of short periods of time when it suits your agenda. You are not objective.

As for your cancer comments, you should know that one of the main reasons that cancer has become so prevalent is because humans are living longer and longer, giving cancer more time to develop. That's why you don't see many animals in their natural environments get cancer, because they die from other causes before cancer kills them. Modern medicine has increased the life expectancy by a huge amount, so cancers have obviously become a statistically higher killer. This is well known in the scientific community.

Prove that jackass.

Explain how the Japanese on Okinawa live so long without cancer.

http://www.hngn.com/articles/7367/20130710/okinawa-diet-followers-average-life-span-116-years-eat-video.htm

Answer me this: Why is the life expectancy of the majority of the world's population (at least in the most developed countries) at an all time high? If vaccines are deadly, wouldn't we be seeing a decrease in life expectancy?

Food for thought.

Do you have an IQ of 105?

WTF is wrong with your brain.

As if vaccines are the only technological improvement over the past century which has impacted the quality of life of humans.  Roll Eyes

What about refrigeration.

I don't like the idea of too much state involvement in people's personal lives, but I also don't believe herd immunity should be compromised because some parents refuse to vaccinate their children - it puts others in danger that may not be able to be vaccinated for real medical reasons (such as allergic reactions)

I don't think full on prosecution of parents is fair, but I do think they should be "persuaded" to vaccinate - for example some countries have started stopping welfare/benefits for parents who refuse to vaccinate their children. That seems like a good idea to me.

Now you show your true face.

You behave like a narcissistic little dictator, who knows it all and likes to play god. It's disgusting.

It's unbearable to read your delusional belief in medical pseudo-science and open disrespect for individual freedom.

You are now on my ignore list.

Another Hitler wolf in "kind, caring, leftist" sheepskin.

These are the most dangerous virus on the planet and we need a forced eradication plan to remove them from the planet. Ignore is too Libertarian, hit him with his own philosophical insanity.
legendary
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Small pox wasn't eradicated by vaccine. It was on its way to dying out. The medical simply took advatage of this and made it look like the vaccine did it.

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This is the most ridiculous post I have ever read in Bitcointalk. Do you really believe that smallpox could have been eradicated without the vaccination program? The last cases of smallpox were reported from regions where vaccination could not be performed.
legendary
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I don't like the idea of too much state involvement in people's personal lives, but I also don't believe herd immunity should be compromised because some parents refuse to vaccinate their children - it puts others in danger that may not be able to be vaccinated for real medical reasons (such as allergic reactions)

I don't think full on prosecution of parents is fair, but I do think they should be "persuaded" to vaccinate - for example some countries have started stopping welfare/benefits for parents who refuse to vaccinate their children. That seems like a good idea to me.

Now you show your true face.

You behave like a narcissistic little dictator, who knows it all and likes to play god. It's disgusting.

It's unbearable to read your delusional belief in medical pseudo-science and open disrespect for individual freedom.

You are now on my ignore list.

 Cheesy Calm down mate, I specifically said I didn't think the state should be arresting anyone, like some dictator.

I just said they shouldn't receive hand-outs from the state if they don't follow the state's rules, especially if those rules are backed up by what I believe to be solid evidence, that endangers the lives of other people.

A loose analogy would be not allowing people to drive on the road without a license, and if they do so they will be fined. Because they are putting other peoples lives at risk by not getting their licence. If they want, they could move to a country which doesn't require a licence (or where a licence is easier to obtain) and live there instead.

Of course, this analogy won't make sense unless you accept the overwhelming evidence that vaccines are beneficial.

Instead of personally attacking me, why don't you try criticising the actual evidence that I posted?
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