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I believe that if the government can plan well on this, then it would be an issue that would be solved. The most problem that we do have with the government is that they seem to be neglecting a lot of things. There are things that would be happening, and it would seem like the government is totally neglecting everything and acting like they are not even aware of it.  If they can bring out their time and table the matter to discuss it, then they will definitely come up with an idea on how to go about all this.

Although I don’t really get why you attached cryptocurrency to that, because I can’t really wrap my mind around how cryptocurrency would really be of help in a situation like this. Cryptocurrency is useful in the areas that we know of, but I just can’t really understand how it is going to be helpful here, I would appreciate if you can explain it so that others will get to know, thank you.
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Maybe the numbers will eventually prove me right, but I'm not worried about the new Omicron variant. The natural tendency in previous epidemics was to evolve to less deadly variants, and in some cases to disappear. In those times, no vaccines, no masks, nothing. I'm talking from the flu epidemics of ancient Greece, through the Black Death to the present day.

The fear of collapse is not from now, it is from the beginning of the epidemic. In fact, some hospitals collapsed, as in Italy. I don't know what will happen in the US but at least where I live Omicron does not seem to be a big threat.
I agree with this, most of the time the most deadly version of a pandemic will be the first strain, after it the strains evolve to spread even faster and to more individuals at the cost of their lethality, so while I think that at some point most of the people around the world will get this new variant, it is not going to be as bad as what we saw at the beginning of the pandemic, and the hospitals will not get overcrowded even with a huge number of people fighting the disease, as most of them will get better with over the counter medicine and rest on their homes.
If we compare it from the previous covid case with the omicron type of covid case, the transmission and other impacts are not as bad as before,
but that doesn't mean we just ignore it because after all we remain careful and take care of ourselves
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It turns out that the so-called "Omicron" variant was just a storm in a cup and it was heavily hyped as being one of the worst variants we had. Most medical staff agree that previous variants like the Delta variant was much worst and that the Omicron variant was more like the flu for most people.  Roll Eyes

Yes, some people with underlying medical conditions did experience severe symptoms and some even died, but more people died from previous variants. So, did the media and governments overreact to this so-called NEW variant.... Yes! they did...  and they were proven wrong.

Hospitals report a much lower hospitalization and incubation rate and Phizer even received the green light for their new pill that will reduce adverse reactions to the Covid virus.  Wink
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Cryptocurrencies, I think could be developed to improve healthcare in the united states and worldwide. There are many obvious steps to improve healthcare. People taking steps to exercise more and be healthier would go a long way towards making healthcare more affordable for all. As would people refraining from drug and substance abuse. These are not necessarily issues for government to solve. But has more to do with choices made on an individual level.

How can cryptocurrencies improve the healthcare system and make healthcare more affordable?
I don't see a way for this happen.
Changing the currency you use to buy something won't make the thing you are buying cheaper.
The problem with the US healthcare system is that it is more "free market" oriented than the European healthcare systems.Creating a "healthcare market" is a bad thing,because the market can be distorted and this can increase the prices to unprecedented levels.Almost all the affordable healthcare systems around the world are dominated by the governments and the private sector inside the healthcare system is heavily regulated.
By the way,I'm sure that the Omicron wave won't lead to the collapse of any healthcare system located in the developed countries.I'm not sure about the underdeveloped countries,though.
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most of the time the most deadly version of a pandemic will be the first strain, after it the strains evolve to spread even faster and to more individuals at the cost of their lethality, so while I think that at some point most of the people around the world will get this new variant, it is not going to be as bad as what we saw at the beginning of the pandemic, and the hospitals will not get overcrowded even with a huge number of people fighting the disease, as most of them will get better with over the counter medicine and rest on their homes.
Yes, I was also going to say the same thing about this version of the coronavirus, Omicron. I read about it on the WHO website, and from what I understood, it is not as deadly as the first version of the covid19 virus, because they have said that there has been less hospitalization, but even at that, they still advised people to do the necessary things that they are meant to do to avoid the spread of the virus, so that there wouldn’t be a lot of strain on healthcare workers.

So, this version seems to be less severe, but even at that that,it doesn’t mean we should be careless about it. We should all still be very careful and watch our steps and do our best as much as possible to make sure that we avoid this virus and put an end to it once and for all.
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Maybe the numbers will eventually prove me right, but I'm not worried about the new Omicron variant. The natural tendency in previous epidemics was to evolve to less deadly variants, and in some cases to disappear. In those times, no vaccines, no masks, nothing. I'm talking from the flu epidemics of ancient Greece, through the Black Death to the present day.

The fear of collapse is not from now, it is from the beginning of the epidemic. In fact, some hospitals collapsed, as in Italy. I don't know what will happen in the US but at least where I live Omicron does not seem to be a big threat.
I agree with this, most of the time the most deadly version of a pandemic will be the first strain, after it the strains evolve to spread even faster and to more individuals at the cost of their lethality, so while I think that at some point most of the people around the world will get this new variant, it is not going to be as bad as what we saw at the beginning of the pandemic, and the hospitals will not get overcrowded even with a huge number of people fighting the disease, as most of them will get better with over the counter medicine and rest on their homes.
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It does not seem that Omicron is being a problem in most of the Western world, where a significant number of the population have chosen to take the so called vaccines (they are not really vaccines). The statistics are many times presented in a way that is biased, e.g. there are more omicron cases detected per day than ever in any wave - but not mentioning that intensive care units are at just 25% of use.

Overall, the impact in health will be more about the economic downturn suffered.
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Staff quitting is not really that shocking considering the working conditions. I mean politicians do not do what they need to do in order to keep the numbers lower, and here we are talking about how vital the staff are and yet they do not get paid a lot. Doctors and every single other person who works in a hospital down to the accountant should be paid more than what they are paid right now, pay them 5x if you have to. Salary is not the main cost of hospitals, the medical equipment and drugs and machines are all the main costs, salary is nothing and they could afford to offer 2x more.

However, for some reason hospitals are trying to save from the salaries and instead hire more staff just in case, which ends with most staff leaving because of hard work and little pay. These are educated and qualified workers, you can't pay them low wages in a period like this, you can't even pay them regular wages, you have to pay insanely high wages because they are facing insanely difficult situations.
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I personally don't really feel that the healthcare system would collapse on the omicron surge. They've been speaking of the same collapse since the last few surges within the last two years but healthcare services remain operational even up to now. There may be some hiccups on the medical care being provided but ultimately people are still receiving the medical attention that they need. Also, based on recent studies, Omicron is the first stage of the virus evolving into a somewhat milder yet highly contagious variant of the virus, meaning that it could ultimately be the natural vaccine that we are waiting for.
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In my country, people are scared of the new strain, and instead of not spreading panic, they are instead escalating the situation. Having survived the early strains of COVID-19, everyone runs at the slightest sign of a cold to medical institutions, thereby creating a burden on doctors. But not everyone comes there with Covid, but because of the large accumulation, they also acquire this virus for themselves.
I do not see any problem with this virus, since there are many ways to treat it today. In addition to the fact that vaccines have been invented, so if people themselves are more consistent in their decisions, I think there should not be any collapse.

As it has been known now to the public, omicron seemed to have less dangerous as compared to older variants but said to be more contagious. By now, I believe that healthcare industry can better manage this situation as compared to when we were just starting the covid virus pandemic. If the symptoms are mild and not threatening, most of them are just advised to stay at home. And also, when it comes to the development of vaccine, I think, scientists will not be having difficulty of targeting this omicron variant in their developments. They already developed the covid vaccine and they will know how to adjust with this new variant or other emerging variants.
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 People taking steps to exercise more and be healthier would go a long way towards making healthcare more affordable for all. As would people refraining from drug and substance abuse. These are not necessarily issues for government to solve. But has more to do with choices made on an individual level.
I certainly agree, in a period like this where the strength of your immune system matters alot, it would be wise for one to strive towards achieving better health. As a booster to your immune system, you should try to exercise more, eat more vegetables, drink more water, enjoy the fresh air, get some sunlight, eat fruits, reduce on the junk, take more vitamins, and have more rest.

This is definitely true where we're responsible for our own health and body. The government has their part when it comes to solving this issue but we also have a big part in taking care of our personal health. We should boost our immune system so we could shield ourselves from different variants that exist during this pandemic. The health care unit is having a hard time dealing with the never-ending pandemic situation so we must also help them by keeping ourselves healthy.
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A greater quantity of COVID driven healthcare demand coupled with higher strain on existing healthcare. Could result in scarcity which will inevitably drive healthcare prices even higher. If the united states thought healthcare was expensive pre COVID crisis. I can't imagine how much worse conditions could potentially deteriorate post COVID crisis.

While certainly the worst case scenario is bad enough. It could also trigger a resurgence of home remedies and snake oil medical treatments. Due to people not being able to afford medical care. Faith healers, alternative health movements and holistic remedies could all make a strong resurgence.

Cryptocurrencies, I think could be developed to improve healthcare in the united states and worldwide. There are many obvious steps to improve healthcare. People taking steps to exercise more and be healthier would go a long way towards making healthcare more affordable for all. As would people refraining from drug and substance abuse. These are not necessarily issues for government to solve. But has more to do with choices made on an individual level.

High numbers of americans drive across the border to mexico every year to receive healthcare treatments at greatly discounted prices. That is probably the best option many have to receive affordable heatlhcare. But surely we can do better than that?

Do Americans use these home remedies and snake oil remedies?  There is no law on these uses in the country?  I used to think that this only happens in developing countries.

How do you associate cryptocurrency with healthcare?  I think it is possible to improve the health care system through the use of blockchain technology.  Blockchain technology can be used to easily exchange information on medical reports and supplies of essential medicines and other supplies.  Education and health care are very expensive in America.  It is very important to solve this problem because it is a basic human need and it should be affordable for all.  Therefore, I think the problem can be solved by making the education and health sector fully government-controlled.

If in a country like America, the state of the health sector suffers as a result of the corona, then the picture of underdeveloped countries can be easily imagined.  We have seen how the health sector collapsed in a country like India and many people died due to a lack of oxygen supply.  I think if we don't develop our health sector globally, new diseases like corona will re-emerge any time.  Therefore, in developed countries, plans need to be adopted on a larger scale.
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The sudden increase of those people who are contacting the new covid-19 variant which is omicron is really alarming. The rate of people who suddenly exhibit the symptoms of omicron is rapidly rising in most parts of the world. Here in our country, we really haven't fully recovered yet and we are still in the process of regaining our freedom because of the restrictions, yet we are now in once again in the series of lockdowns and safety implementations. It is really depressing right now to think that there are many people that would be affected again especially now that the rules imposed are not really after the welfare of the majority. Right now, here in our country, the policies that are being implemented are not in favor of the poor. The public transportations only cater the vaccinated people and there is a rule which is "no vaccine, no ride". I don't know if in other countries this is also the policy, but it really violates the human rights.

I know we have to secure ourselves and take into consideration also the other people's welfare. But this should be into consideration of the human rights as well. We just really have different perspectives and we have various reasons as to why we opt to be vaccinated or not. As long as they are doing the safety protocol which is maintaining the physical distancing and wearing of face masks, they should be allowed to use the public transportation. Because after all, not everyone has the privileged to have private vehicles.

Regarding the fear of health workers, it is really valid because the rise of those who are being sick with omicron is really fast happening. Most of the hospitals are now short staffed because some staffs already contacted the virus and they have no other choice but to prioritize themselves first. The facilities are slowly becoming full with covid-19 patients alongside with the normal patients which means they could hardly accommodate more people who try to be confined. There were even some incident reports that some hospitals now have to make a tent and temporary shelter so that they could still cater those people who badly need help. Vaccines are of great help to minimize the various spreading, but it does not guarantee full immunity from the virus. Hence, the explanation of why some vaccinated people still contact covid-19, but not as severe as those who are unvaccinated.

I just hope that the health care workers would get the support they needed from the government. In that way, they could still push through and get their job done despite the pressure. Because as we all know, some health workers are underpaid despite their work being hazardous. I hope in every area of the world, the health workers would get the recognition they deserve. The recognition I'm talking about is not focused on praises and applause, but on the things the health workers deserve which are proper compensation, good and complete facilities, and of course, the rest that their body needs.
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In my country, people are scared of the new strain, and instead of not spreading panic, they are instead escalating the situation. Having survived the early strains of COVID-19, everyone runs at the slightest sign of a cold to medical institutions, thereby creating a burden on doctors. But not everyone comes there with Covid, but because of the large accumulation, they also acquire this virus for themselves.
I do not see any problem with this virus, since there are many ways to treat it today. In addition to the fact that vaccines have been invented, so if people themselves are more consistent in their decisions, I think there should not be any collapse.

We can also add that health professional already deal with the worse so there's totally no need to get panic on certain situation and its just government need to take action and put some heavy implementation towards the movement of the people so that the new strain will be controlled and it will not create any further damage like what happen on early stage of this covid-19 virus.
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In my country, people are scared of the new strain, and instead of not spreading panic, they are instead escalating the situation. Having survived the early strains of COVID-19, everyone runs at the slightest sign of a cold to medical institutions, thereby creating a burden on doctors. But not everyone comes there with Covid, but because of the large accumulation, they also acquire this virus for themselves.
I do not see any problem with this virus, since there are many ways to treat it today. In addition to the fact that vaccines have been invented, so if people themselves are more consistent in their decisions, I think there should not be any collapse.
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I don’t think it will collapse if it hasn’t collapsed already in the past when we weren’t prepared. Sure the cases are up but if you look at the death rate they are not rising at the same levels.

Seems the vaccines are working and people are getting a mild cold. Also numbers are higher now mostly due to Christmas gatherings and it’s winter and people usually get more sick in the winter.

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The new omicron wave is responsible for the collapse in healthcare system as expected, due to its high contagious levels. But the good news is that mortality rates are lower than the previous strains, so I hope healthcare systems worldwide are going to stabilize again once people get infected and recover themselves, just like we have seen after the last peak of the pandemic.

For now we can follow the sanitary protocols, strength our immune systems with all the necessary nutrients acquired through the food and liquids we consume, daily exercises, contact with sunlinght and also avoiding any kind of negativity in our lives that may attack our immunity. It's also a good idea to store medications at home, because in some areas drugstores and hospitals are already lacking it.

Covid tests are also scarce right now!
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One of the biggest problems with covid when it first started out was the fact that there were not enough room to take care of every patient. Sometimes even when you are at the best care possible, you will die and those numbers were low and people reacted as if that's fine, like "oh the death numbers are pretty low, we shouldn't even be wearing masks!!!!" and other moronic stuff.

It is not about just getting covid, it is about the hospital bed count being lower than the covid sick count. In that case we as community had to let some people literally die because of lack of enough hospital beds, this literally happened. Just because it is not happening right now, doesn't change the fact that some people died because they couldn't find hospital beds at one point. If that happens again, we are going to have a lot of death all over again and that is not alright.
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I do not think that we should be afraid of the collapse of healthcare due to the emergence of a new strain of coronavirus Omicron. It is predicted that by the end of this year, the coronavirus and its varieties will no longer bother people as much as they do now. Partly because the pandemic will subside, and partly because the media will not pay such close attention to it and constantly cover the statistics of cases and deaths.
In addition, the main danger of any virus manifests itself in the first years; in almost three years of fighting covid-19, a certain practice has been developed and many vaccines against this virus have been developed. So everything will be fine.
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This is something that is inevitable, considering how fast the virus is mutating, the mutations are something that's also combining themselves with other diseases like influenza etc. What's needed is : *immediate increase in healthcare professionals* but unfortunately we have to understand that it's impossible since the right way would be to increase the seats in the medical school. Where some countries are graduating the people from medical school early but not all countries would be doing that. Therefore I think the viable option would be providing education + at the same time asking the final year students to help out in the hospitals as well. It's hard but countries have to help each other out and balance everything.
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