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Quote from: Eternad on May 19, 2024, 12:13:02 PM

Since Bitcoin is complete decentralized, Bitcoin needs a lot of developers to contribute for solving issues and improving the current feature to meet the increasing demand. This why Bitcoin is an open source to become open for collaboration with other developers since Satoshi is already out of the picture.

But right now, Most of the development notably Ordinals and Runes makes Bitcoin like the other Blockchain flooded by shitcoins that spam the mempool due to the hype. This kind of upgrade? creates chaos to Bitcoin.

We need more developers with Satoshi vision and not those shitcoin visionaries that want to apply shitcoin feature on Bitcoin.

How do you think the Bitcoin community can ensure that future developments stay true to Satoshi's vision while addressing scalability and usability challenges? And what specific features or improvements do you believe are essential for Bitcoin's long-term success?

There can be no confirmation that Satoshi’s vision is being implemented in recent developments of bitcoin unless he says it himself. Personally I think we might already be too far from what Satoshi has envisioned but then again I do not know Satoshi personally nor do I know any of his ideas.

Maybe the fact the he left is his way of saying that now doesn’t care what we make of his creation.

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Quote from: Eternad on May 19, 2024, 12:13:02 PM

Since Bitcoin is complete decentralized, Bitcoin needs a lot of developers to contribute for solving issues and improving the current feature to meet the increasing demand. This why Bitcoin is an open source to become open for collaboration with other developers since Satoshi is already out of the picture.

But right now, Most of the development notably Ordinals and Runes makes Bitcoin like the other Blockchain flooded by shitcoins that spam the mempool due to the hype. This kind of upgrade? creates chaos to Bitcoin.

We need more developers with Satoshi vision and not those shitcoin visionaries that want to apply shitcoin feature on Bitcoin.

How do you think the Bitcoin community can ensure that future developments stay true to Satoshi's vision while addressing scalability and usability challenges? And what specific features or improvements do you believe are essential for Bitcoin's long-term success?

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Quote from: Skfox on May 19, 2024, 12:05:45 PM

Bitcoin developers are ones which with the aid of proper education, training, research and practical work have helped in improving their skills and knowledge about bitcoin resulting to quality contribution to the bitcoin ecosystem, making it fast and efficient.
It is true, bitcoin developers have being increasing over the years but with recent happenings, don't you think bitcoin need more developers?

If you mean by recent happenings being more adoption and more complicated issues then yes I think more developers are necessary. Not only in quantity but also in quality. Bitcoin is growing more and more each year and we need to constantly develop bitcoin to keep up with the number of investors and users.

I have no doubt many would emerge as developers of bitcoin as kids nowadays are much more interested in bitcoin and tries to pursue careers in development.

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I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.

Sure but this will prove to be a challenge. Logistically speaking and not to mention the financing part. This will be complicated but with a lot of planning and organizing then it can be arranged.

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It is not something that is "owned" by the current devs. Nor is Bitcoin something that devs can control. It is 100% open source and community driven.

Bitcoin developers are just regular people. Anyone can become a Bitcoin dev, if you prove that you can improve Bitcoin and impress the Bitcoin community by doing so... Then you get to be part of Bitcoin history! Yay!

Being a dev is not a job position at some company, though. (although devs get hired by big names - they are basically just hired influencers with actual skills)

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Quote from: Skfox on May 19, 2024, 12:05:45 PM

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That's the thing I'd say with Bitcoin, it doesn't cater itself to others instead others have to cater to it themselves. I wouldn't say there's any disadvantage to it, but it naturally uphelds its own advantage and the key aspect that it has held on its own since it started, decentralization.

As for actually letting other people learn about Bitcoin, there's no need for devs to know about it nor for regular people to know the dev-ish stuff about it. If they want to they can learn, but if not and if you wanted to spread knowledge about it, anyone with above surface level knowledge could do it.

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Like I believe some other users must have mentioned, bitcoin as a network is completely decentralized, which translate to the fact that no one runs or controls the network, and as a result, developers who want or wish to contribute in securing the bitcoin network have to do voluntarily on their own, which means, there is no one available to hire or them, they get paid from fees collected from bitcoin transactions on the network, and also for mining blocks (for bitcoin miners), and also, it's important to know that to become a contributor in the bitcoin network, one need to own some high end machines, which actually is very expensive for most people to afford.

I for example would have loved to atleast, run my own bitcoin node, but right now, I can't afford the type of machine required to do it successfully.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on May 19, 2024, 03:34:48 PM

If there are more people willing to join the team of developers, then they are free to join, after all, the code is open source.

Quote from: royalfestus on May 19, 2024, 01:00:58 PM

The recent developments in Bitcoin highlight the need for more developers. However, the space must ensure adequate security while welcoming new participants. The most critical challenge remains protecting the team from hackers.

Is it the work of the team to protect other teams from being hacked, or do they focus on the main development of the Bitcoin network, detect and fix bugs, and also improve the protocol where necessary? If there is anything that needs to be protected from hacking, it's the Bitcoin network itself and not the team involved.

Maybe I didn't phrase it clearly in my previous post, but I meant that the current team should be cautious about who they allow in. Many cryptocurrency projects have been hacked by insiders who were carelessly brought in. Once they saw the opportunity and the funds they could access, their greed took over.

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Quote from: Skfox on May 19, 2024, 12:05:45 PM

Bitcoin developers are ones which with the aid of proper education, training, research and practical work have helped in improving their skills and knowledge about bitcoin resulting to quality contribution to the bitcoin ecosystem, making it fast and efficient.
It is true, bitcoin developers have being increasing over the years but with recent happenings, don't you think bitcoin need more developers?

Though. In this world, nobody is perfect, and for things to be done perfectly, we need to implement the method of teamwork, so to me, I believe that since with the current adoption of bitcoin, there are still some faults and some things that need improvement in the bitcoin ecosystem, I think if there are more developers, perhaps they will be resolved. But one of the reasons why some developers will not want to work in the Bitcoin ecosystem is that bitcoin is technically large and only cyber knowledge can make them work perfectly in this profession. They need to learn cryptography and some other skills here before they can be able to solve issues in the Bitcoin ecosystem.

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With the rapid adoption of bitcoin around the world where by some countries now uses bitcoin as a legal tender, companies and some other stores or shop now also uses bitcoin as a means of payment and concerning creating awareness or educating new users, I think the need for more developers should be considered.

I think this is why the community is open place where everyone can bring up their own idea or create something new that they feel it will make more sense give more freedom financially as the way the currency was created from the first place. So developer can come in and develop something, and showcase their talent, their people that will use it and see if such thing will provide positive results and benefits to the people. But if it will not, they will go against it and warn people to avoid such thing.

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More developers does not equate more progress. I've seen AAA gaming companies stagnate and lose the public's favors and good graces all because of their key opinion leaders not doing anything about the situation and the current state of their particular market. The same could be said for cryptocurrencies, bitcoin included.

If you're most concerned about bitcoin's high transaction fees, and the tendency for the coin to have late transactions you have Satoshi's oversight of not adding enough zeroes in it lol. Cause block size has been a massive debate in this industry for years now and no one's relenting, thinking they are both correct, and that's true.

On one hand we have the purists who think block sizes shouldn't be any higher than 1 mb, thinking increasing this would stop bitcoin from being secure and decentralized as a whole, effectively killing the main selling point of bitcoin in the first place, on the other hand, we have people who want to increase it, because the transaction fees are unbearable, and so are the wait times.

The developers aren't doing anything about it because they are at a stalemate, no amount of new devs is going to solve this.

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Bitcoin development is very complicated and technical. I would think it takes a long time for someone to gain the requisite skills, even after they are already a software developer, to be able to contribute to Bitcoin in any meaningful way. You need to have a strong knowledge of security, cryptography, networks, and other stuff, as well of course as of course learning the huge Bitcoin codebase. It is a big undertaking and since its open source development its not like there are a bunch of companies hiring people for high paying jobs to work directly on Bitcoin.

But yeah Bitcoin could definitely use more developers I think, and especially in the L2 solutions area. Not only do we need LN improved in the years to come, but we need other L2 protocols developed that have different pros and cons than LN.

So yeah Bitcoin could use more highly experienced developers. I've sometimes thought of getting into Bitcoin dev but it just seems like a huge amount of work to get to the point where I could even start understanding the code...and I'm lazy haha

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Anyone who interested with Bitcoin can know what are the problem that happens in Bitcoin, so if there's a developer can give an idea or insight to solve the problem, they can just post into forum or github.

While you're asking to hire more developers when there's nothing need to do, why need to add more unnecessary thing?

If the problem is really important and affect a lot people, I'm sure there will be many developers join to fix it.

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Quote from: Skfox on May 19, 2024, 12:05:45 PM

Bitcoin developers are ones which with the aid of proper education, training, research and practical work have helped in improving their skills and knowledge about bitcoin resulting to quality contribution to the bitcoin ecosystem, making it fast and efficient.
It is true, bitcoin developers have being increasing over the years but with recent happenings, don't you think bitcoin need more developers?

With the rapid adoption of bitcoin around the world where by some countries now uses bitcoin as a legal tender, companies and some other stores or shop now also uses bitcoin as a means of payment and concerning creating awareness or educating new users, I think the need for more developers should be considered.

Everyday more people are coming in, more hands are needed on security and privacy of bitcoin transactions, assurance of the primary nature of bitcoin as a decentralized asset, wallet development and educating now users.
I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.
Am always open to learn and to take corrections.
what are your opinions?

Why not nothing in this world is perfect, BTC also has loop wholes that needs to be identified and filled. If the current team would be capable enough of doing so they would have done it, but its not done till now.

So new developer's can step in and advise some good strategies that can help to control the volatility of the BTC and to increase the return on investments. It's always advised to hire more skilled and we'll polished developers

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 20, 2024, 06:54:29 AM

Developers of Bitcoin are not employed or paid by any body (like an organization or whatever)

but they are paid
get the list of maintainers then look at which organisation they belong to:
blockstream, brink, chaincodelab
then check out the finances and sponsors and donations those organisations have to pay the devs

the very same period glozow got a job at brink, she was given github privileges to bitcoin core

as for the 'volunteers', well they are left at the bottom, dont have maintainer/merge privileges and just do spell checks/translations so not really 'dev' criteria

as for assumptions of decetralisation
check out whom are the moderators of the main tech discussions of IRC/mailinglist/this forums tech discussion and also where the other main tech video/chat conferences occur. then look at how many 'reference' client brands there are that allow proposals for protocol level upgrades.. notice the small fraternity of the same group

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on May 20, 2024, 06:54:29 AM

Developers of Bitcoin are not employed or paid by any body (like an organization or whatever), and that's because Bitcoin is decentralized. Whoever is working to promote Bitcoin is either doing it for the love of the tech, and I believe that new supporters and developers of Bitcoin will always emerge as time progresses.

Your question is very relevant because there are so many attacks being thrown on the Bitcoin network, and I am beginning to have a double thought that new issues might arise on the network, and we will definitely need lots of developers to fight the attacks. An example is the case of the ordinal, which usually causes the transaction fee of bitcoin to skyrocket.

The need for more Bitcoin developers can not be overemphasized, as the community is growing and more people are becoming aware of the advantages of Bitcoin, it has necessitated for expansion. It's true that developers are not paid, it's a voluntary work, therefore, creating more awareness and pushing for a wider Bitcoin adoption is the work of it's community, all of us that believes in the potentials of Bitcoin. Ofcourse issues to be fixed in the Bitcoin network are of paramount importance, like the ordinals that spam the network and causing the transaction fees to skyrocket, this is one of the demerits to seeing a true Bitcoin adoption, if not fixed.

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Quote from: Skfox on May 19, 2024, 12:05:45 PM

I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.
Am always open to learn and to take corrections.
what are your opinions?

Do you mean developers or people should be sent to these areas to give people awareness about bitcoin? One thing you should understand about bitcoin is that you can't force it on people, especially those that don't have Internet and electricity. The major thing one needs to have to know bitcoin is access to Internet. Going to areas to give people awareness of bitcoin with no access of good Internet is a waste of time because after telling them about bitcoin what will be next step for them.

For bitcoin to get more awareness is just a matter of time. You can't force people to know about Bitcoin, instead you give people time and a day will come which they will develope interest in bitcoin and will be willing to know more about it. If you tell people about bitcoin and they are not convinced or willing to accept it, it will be of no use even if they get some bitcoin because if anything happens you will be blamed. With time people will get to know bitcoin when they are willing to accept it and take full responsibility of it.

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Developers of Bitcoin are not employed or paid by any body (like an organization or whatever), and that's because Bitcoin is decentralized. Whoever is working to promote Bitcoin is either doing it for the love of the tech, and I believe that new supporters and developers of Bitcoin will always emerge as time progresses.

Your question is very relevant because there are so many attacks being thrown on the Bitcoin network, and I am beginning to have a double thought that new issues might arise on the network, and we will definitely need lots of developers to fight the attacks. An example is the case of the ordinal, which usually causes the transaction fee of bitcoin to skyrocket.

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Quote from: Skfox on May 19, 2024, 12:05:45 PM

I think they should be sent in badges to areas where bitcoin haven't been heard or where their is no knowledge about digital gadgets or have access to the internet.

How do you propose to educate people and spread awareness about Bitcoin in places where there is no internet?
And just like where it is, there should be plenty of information. What is important is knowledge that guides you to the correct understanding and goals. Simply telling without proper explanation will not yield good results. I always rely on the fact that I suggest that all people who need knowledge about Bitcoin visit our forum. Then the truth is born, no matter how loud it may sound. Anyone interested will start reading and independently go through all the steps to knowledge. Many will agree that there is nothing complicated about this.

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We can try but Bitcoin is unstoppable in its march and Bitcoin has gradually become very popular among people. If we don't discuss about Bitcoin still we will see that Bitcoin is gradually increasing its popularity and people are investing more amount in Bitcoin platform.

When I first came to know about Bitcoin, I did not know about the positive aspects of Bitcoin, rather the medium through which I came to know about Bitcoin presented the negative aspects of Bitcoin. But I know why I got a lot of interest to know about bitcoin and from that interest I tried to know about bitcoin and now I know enough about bitcoin and many more people have come to know about bitcoin through me. Maybe that's how bitcoin will spread all over the world one time and people who don't know about bitcoin now will know about bitcoin then.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on May 19, 2024, 03:55:02 PM

What's wrong if we get in more new Bitcoin developers? Since Bitcoin is expanding more and more, we may need more Bitcoin developers. Since Bitcoin is open source, anyone can contribute to the network. Anyone can learn and become a bitcoin developer. They can contribute to improving the Bitcoin experience. Though they can't add anything to the code or rewrite the code, they might solve some issues. For example, the Bitcoin lightning network helps reduce fees and facilitate fast transactions. That's how we may find a new solution every time.

You have a good point. What’s wrong with having a lot of bitcoin developers? At least we can guarantee that bitcoin will always have a room to grow and develop, and these developers will make it work and happen. Although we are currently amazed already how innovative and advanced bitcoin is, but changes are inevitable, so we need to cope with it, otherwise bitcoin will be ignored and left behind.

If we can gain a lot of developers for bitcoin, then so be it. I don’t think they’ll be here for nothing, but everyone is still hopeful for more bitcoin features and advantages, that’s why we, the bitcoin community and the smart developers should consistently work hand in hand to create more bitcoin opportunities and benefits in the near future.

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Quote from: Skfox on May 19, 2024, 12:05:45 PM

It is true, bitcoin developers have being increasing over the years but with recent happenings, don't you think bitcoin need more developers?

Bitcoin is a decentralized project and has decentralized communities from developers to users so that there are always many open gates for people to join it as either developers or users.

There is a donation page for Bitcoin developers but they are most famous and productive Bitcoin developers. There are more developers who are less famous and behind the scene.

https://bitcoindevlist.com/

You can become one of Bitcoin developers if you want and have skills. The gate is always opened for everyone.

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