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I have known card counting ever since I watched the movie 21. Have anyone watched it too? It has been an eye-opener for me because I wanted to know how to gamble correctly. Correctly meaning I profit, lol. Then when I knew that it was hard to card count, I didn't bother anymore. That movie taught me that it's illegal to card count. Then recently, I have watched a short video that is about card counting. I'm quite confused because he said that it's somehow allowed and it gives you an edge versus the casino.

Anyway, card counting has been around, and it gives you edge with blackjack, and I do think it works, you have to practice it a lot and become good at it.
That movie was a classic but more unrealistic in the world of the casino's actually beating up gamblers and not more or less kicking them off the property and not allowing them back.
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Not much into blackjack but it does work. I remember about a group from MIT that went around winning on blackjack (a movie was made about them iirc). I suppose a single player can do that, albeit with a bit more difficulty.

Thing is casinos seem to be on the look out for cardcounters and they can kick you out so you'd have to be modest about it. Might work better online.
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sure this is working.
When you count down all card that are played you can be really sure witch cards are left at least to the end of the game.
That with a bit luck makes counting gamblers high chance to win on blackjack.

regards
Ofcourse you cannot be sure what cards are those still on top but you can only have guesses since the quantity of cards is given already after counting the cards down.
But what I do more believe is reading Eyes of the opponent specially when we are closing to endgame in which few cards are left and the reaction of opponent can give us idea what cards they hold still
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I've known this guy in Macau who was extremely good in card counting though he knows the repercussions if he continued doing so in a regular basis. He's not a huge gambler, often just bagging $10k a night and does again in a different gambling center. He never divulged the secrets into card counting but the 'key,' he said, is to look in the 'eyes' of the dealer who shuffles the card and count how many times their eyes 'flicked' from either sides. It sounds like bullshit but he just showed me how to win consistently by doing just that. Perhaps there's more to card counting that I never bothered to learn yet it amazes me up to this day how that lad from Eastern Europe sacked tons of $ in my 1-week stay in Macau.
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  Back in the day of my heavy gambling. I fancied myself a card counter. I usually employed a simple count where 3-6 counted as plus one and 10s counted as minus one. I also did an estimate of how many decks were left to arrive at the "true count."  Unfortunately, my experience was not very fruitful for me. Part of the problem was that I started gambling online. Since most games that I am aware of basically starts with a fresh deck each hand, card counting was worthless. However, I don't think my brick and mortar experiences had me coming out ahead, either. I'm just wondering if the strategy of card counting doesn't really work.
   It does perplex me that casinos have taken measures against card counting if it doesn't work, though. I even had the experience of having my bet pushed back and informed by the pit boss that I could play any game other than blackjack. If card counting is indeed a bunch of bullshit, I am clueless why casinos would prohibit me from playing, and apparently have now implemented continuous shuffling.
   If card counting does indeed work for the right games, I am thinking the following factors may have contributed to my overall losses.
A) Inability to quit. I'm sure after being awake for 24 hours plus, my card counting abilities were probably hampered.
B) Drinking alcohol.
C) I may have been making more errors in my counting than I want to admit.
D) My bankroll was too small for the level of betting that I was doing.
E) In order to hide my card counting, I usually only had a spread of 1-4 units. Perhaps this is too small for card counting to work.

Please share with me your thoughts.


It definitely does work and some people doing it but casinos did put countermeasures to prevent card counting including banning the person doing it.
although I haven't encountered someone doing it but thinking about it logically. card counting is possible to people with high concentration and can remember
things easily.
Well you can still trick the casinos, just keep a low profile bet so that you won't make some noise. As for card counting, not my thing though, usually when I go and play on landbased casino me and my friends will take advantage of the free drink so mentality I will be on a disadvantage for playing black jack.
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sure this is working.
When you count down all card that are played you can be really sure witch cards are left at least to the end of the game.
That with a bit luck makes counting gamblers high chance to win on blackjack.

regards
legendary
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  Back in the day of my heavy gambling. I fancied myself a card counter. I usually employed a simple count where 3-6 counted as plus one and 10s counted as minus one. I also did an estimate of how many decks were left to arrive at the "true count."  Unfortunately, my experience was not very fruitful for me. Part of the problem was that I started gambling online. Since most games that I am aware of basically starts with a fresh deck each hand, card counting was worthless. However, I don't think my brick and mortar experiences had me coming out ahead, either. I'm just wondering if the strategy of card counting doesn't really work.
   It does perplex me that casinos have taken measures against card counting if it doesn't work, though. I even had the experience of having my bet pushed back and informed by the pit boss that I could play any game other than blackjack. If card counting is indeed a bunch of bullshit, I am clueless why casinos would prohibit me from playing, and apparently have now implemented continuous shuffling.
   If card counting does indeed work for the right games, I am thinking the following factors may have contributed to my overall losses.
A) Inability to quit. I'm sure after being awake for 24 hours plus, my card counting abilities were probably hampered.
B) Drinking alcohol.
C) I may have been making more errors in my counting than I want to admit.
D) My bankroll was too small for the level of betting that I was doing.
E) In order to hide my card counting, I usually only had a spread of 1-4 units. Perhaps this is too small for card counting to work.

Please share with me your thoughts.


It definitely does work and some people doing it but casinos did put countermeasures to prevent card counting including banning the person doing it.
although I haven't encountered someone doing it but thinking about it logically. card counting is possible to people with high concentration and can remember
things easily.
legendary
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I have known card counting ever since I watched the movie 21. Have anyone watched it too? It has been an eye-opener for me because I wanted to know how to gamble correctly.

I've only seen the first half of that movie, but my bet is they run into some serious trouble because 1) its a movie so there has to be a conflict, 2) they were signaling each other, which is definitely cheating regardless of whether you're counting cards or not.

Card counting definitely works, as there are professional card counters, however once casinos get wind of what they're doing they usually shut them out. This is a good video of the process of what happens when a card counter gets noticed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HjwzJyCQlQ

Interestingly, the guy was still down when they kicked him out -- they recognized exactly what he was doing just from the way he was placing bets (making huge bet increases when the "shoe" got small).
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It works if you have an extreme attention to detail and can be really focused.Many try to read the game and keep count of the cards but they lose their focus because of the emotions of the game.So for this to work you must be an emotion free cold human being in order to work.
So for online poker, you could say use something like a mini computer with an AI optical sensor and have it count and display out on a different monitor and tell you what to do? I wonder how online will defend against things like AI counting cards?
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I have known card counting ever since I watched the movie 21. Have anyone watched it too? It has been an eye-opener for me because I wanted to know how to gamble correctly. Correctly meaning I profit, lol. Then when I knew that it was hard to card count, I didn't bother anymore. That movie taught me that it's illegal to card count. Then recently, I have watched a short video that is about card counting. I'm quite confused because he said that it's somehow allowed and it gives you an edge versus the casino.

Anyway, card counting has been around, and it gives you edge with blackjack, and I do think it works, you have to practice it a lot and become good at it.
legendary
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As per my experience, I think the biggest drawback for me is my inability to focus to be able to sustain long runs. I don't drink when I play blackjack, but I've noticed that I'm drained myself just to count the cards. That's why I just simply play just couple of hours and if I've noticed that I'm making mistakes then I quit. Yes it takes a lot of practice, but if you don't have that energy to concentrate in long stretches I guess sooner or later you will have slips up that will result you in losing money.
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I'm pretty sure it's well accepted that card counting is legitimate and a real thing. It honestly sounds like you may not have been too good at it . Maybe you need a bit more practice?
legendary
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   Back in the day of my heavy gambling. I fancied myself a card counter. I usually employed a simple count where 3-6 counted as plus one and 10s counted as minus one. I also did an estimate of how many decks were left to arrive at the "true count."  Unfortunately, my experience was not very fruitful for me. Part of the problem was that I started gambling online. Since most games that I am aware of basically starts with a fresh deck each hand, card counting was worthless. However, I don't think my brick and mortar experiences had me coming out ahead, either. I'm just wondering if the strategy of card counting doesn't really work.
   It does perplex me that casinos have taken measures against card counting if it doesn't work, though. I even had the experience of having my bet pushed back and informed by the pit boss that I could play any game other than blackjack. If card counting is indeed a bunch of bullshit, I am clueless why casinos would prohibit me from playing, and apparently have now implemented continuous shuffling.
   If card counting does indeed work for the right games, I am thinking the following factors may have contributed to my overall losses.
A) Inability to quit. I'm sure after being awake for 24 hours plus, my card counting abilities were probably hampered.
B) Drinking alcohol.
C) I may have been making more errors in my counting than I want to admit.
D) My bankroll was too small for the level of betting that I was doing.
E) In order to hide my card counting, I usually only had a spread of 1-4 units. Perhaps this is too small for card counting to work.

Please share with me your thoughts.
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