Topic: Does deleting of old post affects a participant who is handling signature? (Read 405 times)
June 29, 2020, 01:02:28 AM
You can always ask the bm how post count is handled (as mentioned in first reply), if it's 1-2 posts, then just make those extra posts. No biggie.
June 25, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Am not ranked to that membership yet so I probably don't even know what might have happened to that account or possibly that account might have endoged on some kind of spamming or scamming. My issue here is different to what you brought up. Thanks...
Yeah sorry we went too far in our discussion. I gave you in my second post in this topic a solution for your problem that you can consider. Otherwise just tolerate your past, neglect toxic comments and move on
June 25, 2020, 04:50:58 PM
If the manager is counting your post base on the last post in a week then there will be a problem for your signature participation iF you only post exact post they required.you need to always post more than what your campaign is requiring so even there Will be deleted thread your counted post will not be affected .
Seems every BM has its own way of counting stakes base on their own methods am just getting this now, and secondly I have run up that method of making more that 10 post for that week just in case 1 post got deleted out of 10 post it won't affect, so Making up 11 post is the best method.
June 25, 2020, 04:35:47 PM
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I haven’t encountered the case you mention going over an end of 2018 full profile database I’ve got (provided by @piggy at the time), being the number of posts is consistent with at least the minimum Activity range value.There are some limited cases (those with at least 1 earned merit) that I can detect as de-ranked, having a high initial rank to begin with. Wolf0 is probably the worst case, having gone from Legendary or (Hero with 1K Merits) back to Member. desynct went from Hero member to Brand New (and subsequently seems to have abandoned the account after the event).
The account isn't hero anymore after few days?
Or there was a change when the merit system was implemented?
Or does it take days to demote a hero +/- legendary?
I still believe legendary is a permanent rank unless there was a recent change that I am not aware of? Cannot be the only one here encountering this before 2018!
June 25, 2020, 11:09:32 AM
This case was also caught-up in some kind of illogical situation:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160127165655/https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/standistortion-62794 -> Legendary with 182 Activity and 182 posts back in January 2016.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171128074228/https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/standistortion-62794 -> Still a Legendary with 309 Activity and 309 posts back in October 2017.
Currently a Sr. Member with 301 Activity and 301 posts (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/standistortion-62794).
My guess is that these anomalies were corrected at some point in the algorithm, and no longer take place (perhaps when introducing the Merit System, which could have led to revising this).
Nice catch. However, I don't believe there was a bug concerning the legendary rank since I recall seeing the same thing happened in the past quite few times. I am not sure about hero as I said but for legendary I think the modification took place when the merit system was implemented allowing it to be de-ranked just like any other rank https://web.archive.org/web/20160127165655/https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/standistortion-62794 -> Legendary with 182 Activity and 182 posts back in January 2016.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171128074228/https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/standistortion-62794 -> Still a Legendary with 309 Activity and 309 posts back in October 2017.
Currently a Sr. Member with 301 Activity and 301 posts (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/standistortion-62794).
My guess is that these anomalies were corrected at some point in the algorithm, and no longer take place (perhaps when introducing the Merit System, which could have led to revising this).
June 25, 2020, 10:34:23 AM
Greetings to everyone going through this topic, Now a quick question to the legendaries on Bitcointalk, much as to those who have been in Bitcointalk forum for a long time (years). Please does deleting of my old previous post that has been made for years on BITCOINTALK FORUM affects my present activities when it comes to Bounty signature Campaign that am handling presently. I believe few users just like newbies who know nothing about bounty signature Campaign will love to get you contributions. Thanks ✌️
When you have deleted posts if will surely reflect in your profile and you could notice that the number of posts is decreasing because of the deleted post.
The manager will count the post and record the post in the spreadsheet, if the post is deleted then it will not be recorded but if it deleted after the recording then I guess it still recorded. So if its already reported then even if the post is deleted it's still okay.
Im is not sure if I answer your question but that's how I understand it.
June 25, 2020, 10:25:05 AM
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The case you comment may have been a bug of some sort. He was last active on the 07/05/2016, yet @zararb’s comment is from the 18/09/2016 (stating that the hero account has deleted all posts but remained a Hero) – over four months later. That would point to it being a bug, which at some point was corrected, as his current Newbie rank goes to show.I really can’t locate any cases that can support the possibility of not losing rank beyond a certain point of Activity (and deleting posts subsequently, which tends to decrease Activity).
This case was also caught-up in some kind of illogical situation:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160127165655/https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/standistortion-62794 -> Legendary with 182 Activity and 182 posts back in January 2016.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171128074228/https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/standistortion-62794 -> Still a Legendary with 309 Activity and 309 posts back in October 2017.
Currently a Sr. Member with 301 Activity and 301 posts (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/standistortion-62794).
My guess is that these anomalies were corrected at some point in the algorithm, and no longer take place (perhaps when introducing the Merit System, which could have led to revising this).
June 25, 2020, 08:50:07 AM
The forum is typically updated with new things so it depends on the manager how he will count the posts But if the posts are deleted for the signature campaign then there's a selected reason that the posts are usually deleted once they are off-topic. That's why if we post a couple of more posts after the weekend deleting the post won't be a drag All posts are going to be counted at the top of the week Also, the post isn't counted if the thread is deleted.
June 25, 2020, 07:30:35 AM
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I haven’t encountered the case you mention going over an end of 2018 full profile database I’ve got (provided by @piggy at the time), being the number of posts is consistent with at least the minimum Activity range value.There are some limited cases (those with at least 1 earned merit) that I can detect as de-ranked, having a high initial rank to begin with. Wolf0 is probably the worst case, having gone from Legendary or (Hero with 1K Merits) back to Member. desynct went from Hero member to Brand New (and subsequently seems to have abandoned the account after the event).
The account isn't hero anymore after few days?
Or there was a change when the merit system was implemented?
Or does it take days to demote a hero +/- legendary?
I still believe legendary is a permanent rank unless there was a recent change that I am not aware of? Cannot be the only one here encountering this before 2018!
June 25, 2020, 07:08:46 AM
I just did, so as I got the replies on this post, it's likely to be that there is no problem deleting the old post but I should make sure I meet up my week post as stated by the rules of the signature Campaign.
You can easily count how many post you made at the end of the week manually. Assuming your posts aren't spam, chances are 9 out of 10 will not be deleted by the mods so you should be able to fill up the quota. Of course, that still doesn't guarantee your manager to not count your post due to quality issues.
June 25, 2020, 06:18:00 AM
As stated by Welsh, that only depends on your campaign manager and has nothing to do with forum rules.
I think the best thing you can do is to send a message to your campaign manager and let him/her know why your post count has decreased.
I just did, so as I got the replies on this post, it's likely to be that there is no problem deleting the old post but I should make sure I meet up my week post as stated by the rules of the signature Campaign. I think the best thing you can do is to send a message to your campaign manager and let him/her know why your post count has decreased.
June 25, 2020, 04:50:14 AM
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I haven’t encountered the case you mention going over an end of 2018 full profile database I’ve got (provided by @piggy at the time), being the number of posts is consistent with at least the minimum Activity range value.There are some limited cases (those with at least 1 earned merit) that I can detect as de-ranked, having a high initial rank to begin with. Wolf0 is probably the worst case, having gone from Legendary or (Hero with 1K Merits) back to Member. desynct went from Hero member to Brand New (and subsequently seems to have abandoned the account after the event).
June 25, 2020, 04:42:42 AM
If the manager is counting your post base on the last post in a week then there will be a problem for your signature participation iF you only post exact post they required.you need to always post more than what your campaign is requiring so even there Will be deleted thread your counted post will not be affected .
June 25, 2020, 02:12:09 AM
Today most of the campaign managers are counting the old post or actually say they are viewing the total number of your post or contents to verify if you are active on the bitcointalk forum and it does not matter if you have an old post because as you can see on the thread and proof of the authentication of you are trying to apply on the campaign is they are indicating the number of posts. If you deleted some posts before the campaign it does not too much effect too because it depends still on the number of good contents you are giving or contributing too.
Still, it is better to become active on our forum to avoid getting too much reduction on the activity and meet the expectation is the activity needed, post, and rank requirements.
Still, it is better to become active on our forum to avoid getting too much reduction on the activity and meet the expectation is the activity needed, post, and rank requirements.
June 24, 2020, 07:10:01 PM
Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken).
It's possible to lose the legendary rank. Read the following post made by DdmrDdmr.
<...> If you de-rank from a Legendary to Hero (of course, if this is possible) in order to rank back up do you need to reach the same activity as the first time or it's again a random number between 775-1030?
I’ve seen a few de-ranked cases from Legendary a lower rank by deleting posts:Wolf0 was a Legendary on the 07/09/2018 (posts 6034; activity 1078; merit 1002) and is now a Member (posts 81; activity 81; Merit 1002).
jpoker272727 was a Legendary on the 31/08/2018 (posts 1021; activity 1021; merit 1000), a week later he was a Hero just by deleting 4 net posts (posts 1017; activity 1017; Merit 1000). By the 05/10/2018 he got back to Legendary (posts 1021; activity 1020; Merit 1000).
cpfreeplz was a Legendary on the 31/08/2018 (posts 2282; activity 924; merit 1033), a week later he was a Hero just by deleting 2 net posts (posts 2280; activity 910; Merit 1033). By the 28/09/2018 he got back to Legendary (posts 2279; activity 924; Merit 1033).
So even deleting a few posts when the activity is way above the minimum threshold is no guarantee of not being de-raked from Legendary to Hero. It seems as if an activity decrease causes a re-evaluation process, at least if you are in the random activity range (775-1030).
June 24, 2020, 05:22:20 PM
Just bear in mind that excessive cleansing may lead to your account going down a rank grade or two.
Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken).
According to the forum rules, the rank of each user will be determined by the number of merit they earn + the corresponding number of activity points over time that were active. How can the number of posts affect the rank of a members? I mean, even if the posts are deleted, the merit is still there, the activity points are still there, how their rank is reduced if the rank is not related to the number of posts 
June 24, 2020, 05:18:05 PM
Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken).
It's possible to lose the legendary rank. Read the following post made by DdmrDdmr.
<...> If you de-rank from a Legendary to Hero (of course, if this is possible) in order to rank back up do you need to reach the same activity as the first time or it's again a random number between 775-1030?
I’ve seen a few de-ranked cases from Legendary a lower rank by deleting posts:Wolf0 was a Legendary on the 07/09/2018 (posts 6034; activity 1078; merit 1002) and is now a Member (posts 81; activity 81; Merit 1002).
jpoker272727 was a Legendary on the 31/08/2018 (posts 1021; activity 1021; merit 1000), a week later he was a Hero just by deleting 4 net posts (posts 1017; activity 1017; Merit 1000). By the 05/10/2018 he got back to Legendary (posts 1021; activity 1020; Merit 1000).
cpfreeplz was a Legendary on the 31/08/2018 (posts 2282; activity 924; merit 1033), a week later he was a Hero just by deleting 2 net posts (posts 2280; activity 910; Merit 1033). By the 28/09/2018 he got back to Legendary (posts 2279; activity 924; Merit 1033).
So even deleting a few posts when the activity is way above the minimum threshold is no guarantee of not being de-raked from Legendary to Hero. It seems as if an activity decrease causes a re-evaluation process, at least if you are in the random activity range (775-1030).
June 24, 2020, 05:15:51 PM
Just bear in mind that excessive cleansing may lead to your account going down a rank grade or two.
Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken). According to the forum rules, the rank of each user will be determined by the number of merit they earn + the corresponding number of activity points over time that were active. How can the number of posts affect the rank of a members? I mean, even if the posts are deleted, the merit is still there, the activity points are still there, how their rank is reduced if the rank is not related to the number of posts 
June 24, 2020, 05:04:46 PM
If the campaign manager counts the number of posts during a period then it should be unaffected. However, if a campaign manager is solely basing it on post count, then it may well be effect you.
OP, the above is the answer you're looking for. I don't know how many campaign managers are active these days, but I know some of the best ones only count posts from period to period, and in that case it doesn't matter if you get posts deleted that were made earlier than whatever time period is being counted. I wouldn't worry about it too much, because if you're a member here long enough and make a decent number of posts some of them are going to get deleted because of thread deletion or whatever--and there's nothing you can do about it anyway.
Just bear in mind that excessive cleansing may lead to your account going down a rank grade or two.
Yep, that's true (except if you're a Legendary member if I'm not mistaken). June 24, 2020, 03:56:47 PM
A Hero member with 481 post deletes 360 posts, gets 121 activity and becomes a Full member. During next 2 weeks he makes 360+ new posts (lets imagine they are all eligible and wont be deleted, even though it sounds unreal). Will he have 481+ activity and becomes Hero member again, or will his activity number be 126 (and he will have to wait all that 2-week time period) ?
That depends on number of two-week periods the user has been active in. The activity calculated as follows.
Activity = min (posts, 14* N),
N = number of two-week periods that the user has posted in
Let's say all those 360 deleted posts had been made in a single two week-period. If so, in the worst case, N decreases only by 1. If the user makes 360 more posts, once he/she enters the new two-week period and makes a post, N and activity will become same as before.
Now assume that those 360 posts had been made in 20 different two-week periods and there is no post remaining in those 20 two-week periods. This can cause 14*N to be lower than post count. In this case, the user cannot get more than 14 activity in the next two-week period.
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