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Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

I was just having this thought just within myself (more of an opinion) about some comments have read in the gambling board and complains from gamblers outside the forum, that ever since they have been gambling they have never won a bet amounting to a thousand dollars for it has always been below, while some others say that no matter how much high or low amount they have constantly be using to stake in order to win millions it has never favoured them that it has only been a few thousand bucks they had been lucky to win.

But then, I also find out that there are people that will just start gambling for a short time and boom they have won a jackpot in millions when people that have been there years before them are struggling to win even thousands.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

You ask an interesting question, it probably worries many people, not just you.
Unfortunately, there is no clear answer to this question. This is something that cannot be measured, it is impossible to carry out statistics or say in percentage terms. I believe that everyone can win, someone may be lucky twice in a row when a person just started playing, someone may not be lucky even once in their entire life.
To answer your question, I will say that there is no formula and it is impossible to answer unambiguously. My opinion is that anyone can win, just as anyone can never win a jackpot or lottery in their life.

Luck isnt something that could be altered or something that could be influenced or something that you could be able to dictate or something and you cant be able to stop people on having that kind of
assumptions that fate has to do on being a winner or not with gambling. Its true that there's no such thing about being proven out or not. This is why its called gambling in the first place because
no one really knows on when you would be able to win or when you would be able to achieve such good winning rate. Fate has nothing to do with it. If you do win then you are lucky
if you do lose then you are really that in bad luck, as simple as that. We shouldnt really that make ourselves that being too frocible on things on which we know that this is something that
cant really be known when it comes on being lucky.

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Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

I was just having this thought just within myself (more of an opinion) about some comments have read in the gambling board and complains from gamblers outside the forum, that ever since they have been gambling they have never won a bet amounting to a thousand dollars for it has always been below, while some others say that no matter how much high or low amount they have constantly be using to stake in order to win millions it has never favoured them that it has only been a few thousand bucks they had been lucky to win.

But then, I also find out that there are people that will just start gambling for a short time and boom they have won a jackpot in millions when people that have been there years before them are struggling to win even thousands.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

You ask an interesting question, it probably worries many people, not just you.
Unfortunately, there is no clear answer to this question. This is something that cannot be measured, it is impossible to carry out statistics or say in percentage terms. I believe that everyone can win, someone may be lucky twice in a row when a person just started playing, someone may not be lucky even once in their entire life.
To answer your question, I will say that there is no formula and it is impossible to answer unambiguously. My opinion is that anyone can win, just as anyone can never win a jackpot or lottery in their life.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 17, 2024, 01:58:19 PM

What is destiny, if I may ask? Is it luck?

No on is destined to be a gambler and definitely no one is destined to win big in gambling. Anyone who thinks that "destiny" is involved in gambling win should provide statistics, research, reports, and stories that collaborates it. I will be interested to read it.

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Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

My belief is that "destiny" or any sort "supernatural" meaning attached to it.

Good question! This debate about whether luck or skill determines gambling outcomes has been around forever. Basically there's two ways of looking at it.

On one side, you got believers in free will. They say if you study the odds enough and have a solid strategy, you ultimately control how much you win or lose. It comes down to making choices - like managing your money properly.

Then there's the destiny camp and to them, your fate kinda predetermined whether you'll hit it big or go home broke. Maybe you were born lucky at the tables. Or the universe has other plans for you.

Wanna know what I think? Those concepts were dreamed up by people long ago to explain weird stuff they couldnt understand yet - like how ghosts or spirits affected everyday life. Today we got science to make sense of things that used to seem supernatural. So I'm still figuring out where I stand on this whole luck versus skill thing, but in general I'm more inclined to believe concrete evidence and things like coincidence rather than fate or destiny.

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Quote from: Marykeller on May 17, 2024, 11:15:09 AM

In life, nature has programmed one destiny to either be a success or failure in the things they do. That's why, you get to find out that, there are things one can engage in and fail woefully, while others will do the exact thing and succeed in those same thing. That's how life has projected everything to be because our destinies are far different from each other.

Relating gambling to one destiny, I don't think it does work in that area, you know why? Gambling is about luck. For instance, assuming my destiny is to be rich in real life if I find myself to be addicted to gambling, what do you think will happen to me in a short time? To broke like hell because I steadily gambled with the money I had rather than making good use of it to invest or gamble with a little amount.

I also don't see that there is any kind of relationship with that, destiny has nothing to do with games of chance, I know that there are many people who believe that everything is written, I respect that, but I consider that what one does for pure own decision is what will happen, I do not believe that the game and all these things already have a clear destiny for each of us, because in the game everything is possible to happen, there is no other way You see, I see it that way, but those who think that destiny has something to do with it, well I understand them, but the game for me is half about being lucky and the other half about our decisions, as long as one Seeks to win.

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Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this.

What is destiny, if I may ask? Is it luck?

No on is destined to be a gambler and definitely no one is destined to win big in gambling. Anyone who thinks that "destiny" is involved in gambling win should provide statistics, research, reports, and stories that collaborates it. I will be interested to read it.

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Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

My belief is that "destiny" or any sort "supernatural" meaning attached to it.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on May 16, 2024, 04:01:04 PM

In some religions, destiny is what is predicted for someone to become. But if it is not about religion, destiny is what someone became. I will prefer to go for the later. If someone failed in life, become poor, or rich or make progress than his mates, that is that person's destiny. Anyone that lose to gambling very well that gambling let him to become not rich, that is the person's destiny. If someone wins huge amount of money from gambling, that is also the person's destiny. But win or lose in gambling will not be the end story of a gambler if he is still living.

This kind of mentality can make people careless and even lazy. Since life is predestined, people will assume that they don't have to put in much effort because they are already destined to be rich or poor. My position is that even if one is destined to be rich through any means including gambling, there is also a need to work hard. Gamblers need to understand and gain deep experience in games before betting. You shouldn't just depend solely on luck to win big. There is also a place for risk-taking, many gamblers who win big, also take big risks.

Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

Some events are unexplainable, so we will have to accept them as they happen. I have seen first-time gamblers winning big even without any deep gambling experience. That's why I have the belief that gambling win is a product of knowledge and luck.

Destiny is a gift from God and that gift was given to each one of us since we were born. Thus, it is in our duty to hone this gift, develop and build before it can speak for us. In as much as we were predestined if we do not walk on the right part to that destiny it wont come to accomplishment. Many people fail to understand these things. Just like you have said they feel that they have to sit at home and things would go out as planned, i would put the blame on movies and online stories we have watched and heard. But even in the movies the said person always go in chase of what he wants and then he meets his destiny with fate on the path he took.

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Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

I was just having this thought just within myself (more of an opinion) about some comments have read in the gambling board and complains from gamblers outside the forum, that ever since they have been gambling they have never won a bet amounting to a thousand dollars for it has always been below, while some others say that no matter how much high or low amount they have constantly be using to stake in order to win millions it has never favoured them that it has only been a few thousand bucks they had been lucky to win.

But then, I also find out that there are people that will just start gambling for a short time and boom they have won a jackpot in millions when people that have been there years before them are struggling to win even thousands.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

How you propose that we can prove or disprove such thoughts? According to some physicists the future is as real as the past, if they are correct then anything that is bound to happen will happen and nothing else, and you could think of this as destiny, but since we do not know what will happen on the future, you have no way to be sure if you will be one of the few lucky winners or not, so what to do? And the answer is simple, if you like to gamble do so and if you win that is good for you, but if you do not then at least you got some fun out of gambling.

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Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

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Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

I am afraid what you are asking about goes beyond the realm of things we can prove, as human beings. Actually, this is a discussion which have been going around in the forum for years, perhaps even more, before I started to post around here.
There will be people who believes in destiny, but is that another name for "luck" or "chance"?
If you asked this question to a mathematician, he would tell you everyone who enter the casino has the same chances to exit it with money. What I am trying to say is this is something which depends much on the personal point of view each one of us could have on things we cannot control, you will only see personal opinions in this thread, nothing else. Once I have made that clear, I would like to share my personal opinion: there are things we cannot understand and may never understand, so there is a chance some people have something indeed special waiting for them, but we never know.

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In life, nature has programmed one destiny to either be a success or failure in the things they do. That's why, you get to find out that, there are things one can engage in and fail woefully, while others will do the exact thing and succeed in those same thing. That's how life has projected everything to be because our destinies are far different from each other.

Relating gambling to one destiny, I don't think it does work in that area, you know why? Gambling is about luck. For instance, assuming my destiny is to be rich in real life if I find myself to be addicted to gambling, what do you think will happen to me in a short time? To broke like hell because I steadily gambled with the money I had rather than making good use of it to invest or gamble with a little amount.

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I don't believe in something called "destiny".

You can do anything you want and you can change anything from now on, you can change your life, you can stay in your mediocre life or you can become poor, because it caused by your activities.

If gambling can make you happy, it will affect you to become more creative and have a better spirit to doing your daily activity.

If you can't control yourself while gambling, it will make you get addicted and lost everything including your life.

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Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

But then, I also find out that there are people that will just start gambling for a short time and boom they have won a jackpot in millions when people that have been there years before them are struggling to win even thousands.

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

I don't think its a matter of destiny because some persons eventually gets to win a very huge amount after a very long time but then gambling is most dependent on luck much more than its skill dependent or even destiny dependent as you may want to say it, if you look in the concept of destiny then you may most likely not get to wan to based it on gambling luck as it doesn't relay corelate well enough but then one thing I'm very sure about is luck and proper risk management and little of skill can get you to eventually get to win some day.

the concept of destiny even requires you to actually getting to do work to be able to get to the desired destination to achieving that which you desire to achieve apparently luck isn't a relay key factor in the concept of destiny rather its preparation and hard work meeting opportunity that gets one to their destiny but then luck helps accelerate the speed to your destination which eventually turns out to your destiny.

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It's not destiny that affects you, it's your belief in it that affects your outcome when you gamble, you see when you are thinking that stuff is predetermined or that there's already something that is set to happen already, your mind is conditioned to belief that it's useless to do your best because you think that things are already done and it's just a matter now of finding out what's in it for you. Your destiny doesn't have anything to do with this and if it does, it's probably small or a trivial matter on the grand scheme of things. Gambling is pure mathematics and it's a really complicated math that it's easy to just lie to yourself that it's not that and that it's something else.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on May 16, 2024, 04:01:04 PM

In some religions, destiny is what is predicted for someone to become. But if it is not about religion, destiny is what someone became. I will prefer to go for the later. If someone failed in life, become poor, or rich or make progress than his mates, that is that person's destiny. Anyone that lose to gambling very well that gambling let him to become not rich, that is the person's destiny. If someone wins huge amount of money from gambling, that is also the person's destiny. But win or lose in gambling will not be the end story of a gambler if he is still living.

This kind of mentality can make people careless and even lazy. Since life is predestined, people will assume that they don't have to put in much effort because they are already destined to be rich or poor. My position is that even if one is destined to be rich through any means including gambling, there is also a need to work hard. Gamblers need to understand and gain deep experience in games before betting. You shouldn't just depend solely on luck to win big. There is also a place for risk-taking, many gamblers who win big, also take big risks.

Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

Some events are unexplainable, so we will have to accept them as they happen. I have seen first-time gamblers winning big even without any deep gambling experience. That's why I have the belief that gambling win is a product of knowledge and luck.

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Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

The problem of these people who've been complaining a lot, is the they always got fascinated with lucky of experiences that other players had been through.
Their mindsets didn't align to other gamblers who been playing despite of losing for several times. This is what make sense here, if a person's choice is having fun then that losses of winnings was just a mere reality and not by destiny. Once you don't like the scenario of casino's gameplay, the decision is yours to stop nobody forces you to drain the funds that you have.

Big wins obtained by other players as if fate was on his side, I do not agree with this, Yes, gambling games cannot be said to be fate that we make ourselves, no one knows the fate that is in the scenario by the creator, no one knows, that's just God's secret to his people. We are well aware before playing the gambling game, we know the bad impact will be losing, why do we keep trying to get in there, is it fate? Gambling games are just a matter of luck for every gambler.

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Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

But then, I also find out that there are people that will just start gambling for a short time and boom they have won a jackpot in millions when people that have been there years before them are struggling to win even thousands.

I am not sure if we can call that "Destiny". I have read about some users who miss click a max bet on low odds and win a massive amount, sometimes it happens, but you need to be really lucky for that. And i have seen in the past people making max bets on their first bet and winning huge, but i remember that user was sure his bet was about to lose and did it to prove to other users how unlucky he was. But destiny had other plans for him.

Sometimes random big wins happen, and the newbies' luck is real, i don't have any doubt about that.

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Quote from: alani123 on May 16, 2024, 04:57:24 PM

This is yet another superstition related topic. I wonder if this topic is ever going to subside. It's quite funny that nearly any religion denounces gambling, and yet still superstition finds a way towards it. Well, if destiny is a thing it's not only a religious thing but also philosophical. What do our choices matter if everything is predetermined?

If I lay down on the floor and decide to do nothing was this meabt to be and my destiny, or was it a result or my own volition and free will? It's hard to answer these questions. But at least most religions allow for the existence of free will in their philosophy. So to believe in Destiny especially in relation to gambling is something that is very contradictory.

That's what I wanted to write. If there is destiny, it is often related to religion. And most of the time religion forbids gambling. I think destiny and gambling are a contradiction.

But maybe the OP wanted to talk about deterministic elements. A materialist can be as fatalistic as a religious person when he/she strictly adheres to deterministic conditions. Yes, we have free will. But we cannot fully intervene in the events taking shape around us. When we open our eyes, we are exposed to the events that take place. And we cannot escape them. And sometimes we are influenced by them.

I think destiny and gambling are a contradiction. If you believe in destiny, you cannot create expectations from something that is forbidden for you. If you create expectations of something that is forbidden for you, then you don't believe in destiny.

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Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

And this makes me to come to a hypothetical conclusion that in gambling each and every person is individually destiny to within the range of certain amount of win. And that if you are not destined to win the high amount you are after, you will never be able to no matter how much you use or the strategy you apply to your bets.

Not to bore us with many words... I want to ask to know about forum members opinions and views about this. Is it what it is or it's just a fallacy?

Nah everything is all about luck. Sometimes, there are just people who are born lucky and they are also have this itch for gambling.

I consider myself as someone who is very unlucky with bets. I betted hundreds of times in the past and all of my bets amounted to a loss of at least 80% of my total bets. On my last gambling activity, I lost a total of $400 and there was no reward even when I try to bet in small amounts.

While this may be the case, I may be unlucky with gambling but I am also blessed with things outside the gambling world. This is not to say that those who are lucky in gambling are unlucky in some parts of their lives, but I just see it on a different perspective that the compensation of my losses was through some blessing outside that world.

Quote from: Judith87403 on May 17, 2024, 07:48:51 AM

Op, to an extent you are absolutely correct. There are people who have been playing bet for years yet there winnings is not something to talk about I mean it's very poor and not encouraging but there are people who will started today and before next week if they should show you there betting history will marvel and I think that is grace.

However, those people who use to win thousand dollars that's below million and also those who will win millions it's not just destiny but also Grace. It's very important and necessary for someone to be operating on Grace .

I think this also boils down to the frequency of gambling.

Naturally if a person bets more, they will incur more expenses in the process regardless if they win or not. On the other hand, there are people who just bet once in a blue moon and they quickly take advantage of their winnings as they completely stop to gamble.

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I can't stop myself from laughing when I saw this thread,Mehnn.
There is nothing like Destiny in gambling, it completely a big lie and scam. No one is destined to win or loss in gambling, it simply by chance.

How can we talk about Destiny in gambling, so it then means some are destined to be addicted gamblers as there Destiny, No Mate, nothing like that exist it all sprout from our decisions and action.

Nothing influence how big or small you win but how much your staka amount was compared to the odds.

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Quote from: Lida93 on May 16, 2024, 03:53:27 PM

Does destiny has influence in the amount we can win in gamble?

We often hear that in gambling, luck is the essence of common words that are often heard and read, talking about fate in gambling, My understanding is that it is something that is bound and united, where we can define destiny as a decree that exists in the human soul.

In the nature of fate, it gives birth to bad and good, as well as someone who comes to gamble where if good fate accompanies them, it doesn't take long to win the jackpot, that's where the thing called good luck and fortune that has been determined is born.

And vice versa, bad luck accompanies gamblers, even though they have been betting for decades and playing various kinds of games, they still experience bad luck, so fate has a big connection with winning and losing when gambling, from my personal point of view.

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