Does it helpful when blockchain integrated to government system? - page 5.

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Ask yourself the question, why is all that accountability important to them? Is it in their main interest to show everyone what they are doing and how they are spending your tax money? A lot of these governments are corrupt to the core and they do not want transparency and efficiency, so this would not be a priority concern for them. Angry

Yes, as citizens we would like it if they were totally transparent and it would be nice if we knew where our tax money are going and how it was spend, but that is just a pipe dream.

They might use some "private" Blockchain technology to create a smoke screen that they are using it to the benefit of their voters, but it would be controlled by them. Tongue

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on June 07, 2019, 09:14:58 PM

Blockchain as a tech, is so far superior to most systems we have now. Some governments have already adopted it, albeit in just a few portions. For example I believe a few countries have already started using blockchain for keeping land titles since that reduces the likelihood of getting the records destroyed by in a burning building. I can't find the thread but I heard some charity group has planned on using it for dispensing donations, which could become a blueprint for the government using it for welfare to reduce fraud.

right as a database in land will make the blockchain a backup, so that state administration is not disturbed in bad conditions, such as disasters or fires. still not many governments use it. I think that soon there will be many governments who realize it

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on June 07, 2019, 11:16:34 AM

Quote from: Genemind on June 07, 2019, 09:17:45 AM

That will be possible if leaders and politicians would agree to use and adopt cryptocurrency. If they will implement those things for the good of cryptocurrency and the users, there will be transparency and both the economy and blockchain will improve. If the leader is against cryptocurrency, there will be lots of conflicts.

conflicts will probably will going to happen. Clearly other politicians had their own agenda and to which most likely if they will not agree then clearly they are corrupt politicians. The reason for this corrupt politicians starts with vote buying. Of course they use their pocket monet to buy votes and to win during the election as a result, they will become a corrupt official just to compensate all their spenditures during the election campaign. After that self interest will always follow taking advantage on every last cent of money they can get from.their budget allocations.

correct, corrupt politicians will decline the adaptation of block-chain technology in the government if it will halt, interrupt
or stop the corruption they have been doing. also citizen will doubt this technology since they are unfamiliar with it and will
accuse that who ever want to implement this technology a dictator or want to control the government for him/her self.

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Blockchain as a tech, is so far superior to most systems we have now. Some governments have already adopted it, albeit in just a few portions. For example I believe a few countries have already started using blockchain for keeping land titles since that reduces the likelihood of getting the records destroyed by in a burning building. I can't find the thread but I heard some charity group has planned on using it for dispensing donations, which could become a blueprint for the government using it for welfare to reduce fraud.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on June 07, 2019, 06:51:41 PM

Quote from: CryptoBry on June 07, 2019, 07:54:09 AM

Blockchain technology is considered to be revolutionary and game-changing that can hopefully transform many entities and organizations for the better and that certainly includes the government. However, we know that most governments are not open to the use of the blockchain on their ecosystem. Now, is it possible that one day we can have a government that incorporates some of the blockchain technology and really make it work? I am seeing a big potential on the electoral process maybe that this the best way to have a taste of blockchain in the government.

Transparency is one thing that most governments dreaded of.
They don't want the public to know what is going on behind those curtains.
Though they always claim to be honest and transparent because it should be in the first place.
Yet, the actual scenario is the opposite. Most of the corrupt government institutions want to hide their transactions as much as possible.
With blockchain technology, it will address the transparency issues, hence, their rebuttal or hesitation to use this system.

yeah dirty politician will surely would not one a block chain integration in the government section. If only there are good politicians that could see this thread and would give a support then therr is a high chance that the block chain system integration introduction will have the chance to happen.

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Blockchain hype started years ago, and people still didn't create anything great with this technology, people only talk about vague ideas how blockchain be applied here and there, but nothing comes out of it. "Blockchain can help banks, blockchain can help governments" - I've seen it 3 years ago, but still no one build a blockchain that is now proudly used by some big names, in fact mentions of blockchain projects tend to disappear over time - first someone loudly says that they will use blockchain, then years later there's still no updates on it, as if it never happened.

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Quote from: CryptoBry on June 07, 2019, 07:54:09 AM

Blockchain technology is considered to be revolutionary and game-changing that can hopefully transform many entities and organizations for the better and that certainly includes the government. However, we know that most governments are not open to the use of the blockchain on their ecosystem. Now, is it possible that one day we can have a government that incorporates some of the blockchain technology and really make it work? I am seeing a big potential on the electoral process maybe that this the best way to have a taste of blockchain in the government.

Transparency is one thing that most governments dreaded of.
They don't want the public to know what is going on behind those curtains.
Though they always claim to be honest and transparent because it should be in the first place.
Yet, the actual scenario is the opposite. Most of the corrupt government institutions want to hide their transactions as much as possible.
With blockchain technology, it will address the transparency issues, hence, their rebuttal or hesitation to use this system.

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Quote from: creeps on June 07, 2019, 05:47:15 PM

Quote from: Genemind on June 07, 2019, 09:17:45 AM

That will be possible if leaders and politicians would agree to use and adopt cryptocurrency. If they will implement those things for the good of cryptocurrency and the users, there will be transparency and both the economy and blockchain will improve. If the leader is against cryptocurrency, there will be lots of conflicts.

We can’t know this one not until government shows some support to use blockchain technology. Transparency is the key that blockchain can assure to the government but since politics are politics, they might not want to become more transparent and they see blockchain as a threat to them. If they are against with it, then progress will be delayed.

This will be a huge problem for dirty politicians. I guess that is one of the reasons why government are aloof with blockchain tech and crypto since they see it as a threat not to mention it might eliminate the usage of banks where government has power over.

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Quote from: Genemind on June 07, 2019, 09:17:45 AM

That will be possible if leaders and politicians would agree to use and adopt cryptocurrency. If they will implement those things for the good of cryptocurrency and the users, there will be transparency and both the economy and blockchain will improve. If the leader is against cryptocurrency, there will be lots of conflicts.

We can’t know this one not until government shows some support to use blockchain technology. Transparency is the key that blockchain can assure to the government but since politics are politics, they might not want to become more transparent and they see blockchain as a threat to them. If they are against with it, then progress will be delayed.

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2. The freedom of information - block chain offers the public the freedom of information regarding on how a department utilize the money being allocated to them.

I think that this could materialise as an idea. The rest, I'm not so sure on. If fiscal spending can be tracked, then storing it on a public ledger could make sense in order to add transparency to transactions, especially in countries where this is a prominent issue.

If you're strictly talking about the government (and not of the currency, or monetary policy), then integrating blockchain technology is probably going to be something of an internal infrastructure project that will add to the efficiency of their existing databases, and to add immutability to records, etc.

It's not going to be anything decentralised or anything resembling a cryptocurrency - all the government would use blockchain for is as a database, essentially.

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Governments wouldn't want public records to be left hanging in the open as it could easily be tampered and used in a lot of nefarious ways possible. Perhaps they will seek a workaround for that once they integrated the blockchain in public service/record keeping (hopefully). As for point #10, I don't think those alone are enough to keep the community happy. Mind you, no matter how perfect the government is, the public would always find flaws and faults of the government just because.

Quote from: jademaxsuy on June 07, 2019, 04:32:37 AM

8. Quality service - a quality service will be surely provided by the government after eradicating corruption.

So far I haven't seen my government provide a quality service even though the systems are already upgraded and equipment is also top notch and up-to-date. It highly depends on who sits on the public office at the end of the day and not technological advancements per se.

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Of course, if states introduce blockchain technology into the economy and other branches of state activity, it will be very useful for everyone - for the state, for citizens, and for cryptocurrency. It should be noted that almost all states recognized the revolutionary and promising blockchain technology and began to introduce this technology. Moreover, such a technology is being introduced even by those states that do not relate well to cryptocurrency, and China, which issues the largest number of patents for inventions using this technology, is an example of this.

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It depends on which side of the government is needed and whether it will also give feedback to the blockchain later?
If we look at it now, the development on the side of the government and its politics with this blockchain is not suitable because the scope is not just online

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I've been pursuing this idea for quite a lot of time. Because the blockchain is really an effective technology to innovate almost everything in the system when it comes to data and information. The objectives you have provided are really the pointers. Imagine an election with the blockchain technology integrated within its system? It would be a more secure and clean election. However, since most of the people in the government are egoistic, they would choose to stay what they are and won't open their minds with the possibility and innovation that the blockchain could give.

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Quote from: Genemind on June 07, 2019, 09:17:45 AM

That will be possible if leaders and politicians would agree to use and adopt cryptocurrency. If they will implement those things for the good of cryptocurrency and the users, there will be transparency and both the economy and blockchain will improve. If the leader is against cryptocurrency, there will be lots of conflicts.

conflicts will probably will going to happen. Clearly other politicians had their own agenda and to which most likely if they will not agree then clearly they are corrupt politicians. The reason for this corrupt politicians starts with vote buying. Of course they use their pocket monet to buy votes and to win during the election as a result, they will become a corrupt official just to compensate all their spenditures during the election campaign. After that self interest will always follow taking advantage on every last cent of money they can get from.their budget allocations.

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That will be possible if leaders and politicians would agree to use and adopt cryptocurrency. If they will implement those things for the good of cryptocurrency and the users, there will be transparency and both the economy and blockchain will improve. If the leader is against cryptocurrency, there will be lots of conflicts.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on June 07, 2019, 08:46:06 AM

BTC might be more suitable for a store of value, to replace gold, even though many people argue about this idea. People like Peter Schiff lol

Peter Schiff is fighting the good fight, but unfortunately he's soo obsessed with Gold that he doesn't want or can't see how Bitcoin is a useful alternative. Yes, Gold has a major advantage and doesn't need to prove itself, but that doesn't mean the new generation will continue to hop on the Gold-bandwagon. Bitcoin appeals to the new generation way more because they grow up in a time where everything is based on tech and digital alternatives.

I think the average nocoiner-joes will only accept Bitcoin being a store of value when their government starts buying it up just like how they buy up Gold right now.

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Transparency and accountability should be the main benefit for governments to use blockchain technology. However, I don't know which blockchain that is suitable for this purpose.

BTC might be more suitable for a store of value, to replace gold, even though many people argue about this idea. People like Peter Schiff lol

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Blockchain can be implemented everywhere where there is in need of transparency,its nothing related to crypto so governments are free to implement and it happened on some countries as well.Many countries tried it even on vote polling but they stopped for some reasons.

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Blockchain technology is considered to be revolutionary and game-changing that can hopefully transform many entities and organizations for the better and that certainly includes the government. However, we know that most governments are not open to the use of the blockchain on their ecosystem. Now, is it possible that one day we can have a government that incorporates some of the blockchain technology and really make it work? I am seeing a big potential on the electoral process maybe that this the best way to have a taste of blockchain in the government.

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