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If we are being discipline while betting then we may not lose much money so yeah it can be considered as successful in gambling but it can be depends on lot of factor especially when someone looking to play to hit jackpot then they will feel success only when they hit it,when someone want to get the pleasure of adrenaline they will be successful as long as they can able to bet without losing much.

On that point if adrenaline comes for sure we cannot control our bettings,that’s why it’s better to just play without intentions of winning at all,why not play like you are in cinema watching movie?you are paying but winning nothing?
So in case that you won then it will be considered as extra bonus?you enjoyed and win?

I don’t know why gamblers treat this as profession when there are many jobs that is appropriate for us and gambling is only a hobby to bing us happiness

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If we are being discipline while betting then we may not lose much money so yeah it can be considered as successful in gambling but it can be depends on lot of factor especially when someone looking to play to hit jackpot then they will feel success only when they hit it,when someone want to get the pleasure of adrenaline they will be successful as long as they can able to bet without losing much.

the point is when someone expects to win in gambling then at that moment you will lose more, but when you can do it with discipline then you will not continue to bet and have the right time to stop before all your money is lost in gambling because of a strong desire to win the bet

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Quote from: Botnake on October 28, 2019, 08:06:56 AM

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To be very honest, I don't consider gambling as form of entertainment at all. Anyway, everyone has his own perception and I am not ere to pass judgments. My reason behind such belief is the nature of this game. Gambling is all about luck and no one can really master the art of controlling fate. Moreover, the house is always against the player. It is good to be disciplined but difficult to do this in real.

I can't blame you to think that gambling is not fun or a form of entertainment because you think every type of gambling has a house edge.
Maybe if we are playing like dice or other luck based type of gambling, you can say you will never win in the long run, and it only requires luck to win, of course by the name it self, it will tell a lot.

I understand the stand about this because luck is indeed and no one can hold this on his palm instead it will just come to the deserving

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However, you tend to forget that there are other type of gambling which we called a skilled based gambling, which some gamblers are even making a living on it. To give one example, I would state sports betting as this is the type of game that I also love to play.

This combines skills and luck and the maturity of player is indeed helpful to win,but on the other hand luck will always interfere and might bring us opposite outcome if it’s not on our side

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To be very honest, I don't consider gambling as form of entertainment at all. Anyway, everyone has his own perception and I am not ere to pass judgments. My reason behind such belief is the nature of this game. Gambling is all about luck and no one can really master the art of controlling fate. Moreover, the house is always against the player. It is good to be disciplined but difficult to do this in real.

I can't blame you to think that gambling is not fun or a form of entertainment because you think every type of gambling has a house edge.
Maybe if we are playing like dice or other luck based type of gambling, you can say you will never win in the long run, and it only requires luck to win, of course by the name it self, it will tell a lot.

However, you tend to forget that there are other type of gambling which we called a skilled based gambling, which some gamblers are even making a living on it. To give one example, I would state sports betting as this is the type of game that I also love to play.

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Quote from: btc78 on October 27, 2019, 10:35:08 PM

I mean discipline in sense that we control our self from spending a lot or losing huge amount,discipline in ways of we can stop whenever we need to and not risking everything fo gambling,anyway IMO and I may be wrong also

Hey dude you may misunderstood the real explanation of my previous reply and i don't know what actually force you to say that i am missing the best part of this topic. I think you should take a deeper look what i actually explained on my previous reply.

I have already explained about discipline where its only applicable for professional gamblers but not so bold. You talked about their control but i don't think its gonna make real senses during placing bet with an expectation of getting huge amount of money in return. I would like to see them as a trader rather than a gambler who can control their emotions.

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Quote from: Polar91 on October 27, 2019, 06:49:17 PM

Are you tyring to imply that gamblers are not disciplined? I don't think so. Being a disciplined individual isn't about risking something, it's about how you manage it. If I'm not wrong, risk management is under the disciplinary act in which you're correct that it must be the term for that. A good gambler with risk management/discipline doesn't go against his/her plan no matter what.

You're right. When someone has good management in risk handling, he can make a plan or strategy about what next he will do. He will have a note or a line that will help him to guide in any situation. Risk management is a must that gamblers should have because that is the way for him to manage his money and time so he can be able to do what he wants. And in gambling, he will be able to control himself and prevent himself from spending too much money. And discipline can help someone not just in gambling, but also in other activities he does, and he can work in his day without having a problem.

Risk management is part of your discipline. A person with discipline will always know how much to gamble, how much to lose, how much time to spend in casinos, how much win before saying enough, and so on. Although a disciplined person can still experience and face problems, contrary to what you said, he will always end up getting them solved or avoided smoothly. But problems are minimized if one is disciplined. Many problems arise because people cannot do things in moderation.

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Quote from: TalkStar on October 27, 2019, 01:15:35 PM

I don't think that the word "Discipline" is going to bring any change for gambling during placing their bet. Actually it doesn't fit with the platform of gambling where you should have wide luck to make handsome profits. I have seen two type of gamblers where some like to gamble for enjoyment and others take it professionally. Professional gamblers have higher chances to win because usually the don't play for entertainment. Before placing their bet they make enough research during choose their side and its specially works for sports betting where most new gamblers like to go with their favorite one. So if you wanna find discipline on gamblers then professional gamblers would have little amount of that but not sharply.

I think you have misconception what Op trying to say mate as what I understand is the word discipline was pointed the whole system of us being gambler and not on how we bet.
I mean discipline in sense that we control our self from spending a lot or losing huge amount,discipline in ways of we can stop whenever we need to and not risking everything fo gambling,anyway IMO and I may be wrong also

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Quote from: Polar91 on October 27, 2019, 06:49:17 PM

Are you tyring to imply that gamblers are not disciplined? I don't think so. Being a disciplined individual isn't about risking something, it's about how you manage it. If I'm not wrong, risk management is under the disciplinary act in which you're correct that it must be the term for that. A good gambler with risk management/discipline doesn't go against his/her plan no matter what.

You're right. When someone has good management in risk handling, he can make a plan or strategy about what next he will do. He will have a note or a line that will help him to guide in any situation. Risk management is a must that gamblers should have because that is the way for him to manage his money and time so he can be able to do what he wants. And in gambling, he will be able to control himself and prevent himself from spending too much money. And discipline can help someone not just in gambling, but also in other activities he does, and he can work in his day without having a problem.

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Yes, if you have good discipline in gambling, you have a chance not to waste your money. It has a great part because it avoids you from being greedy.

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Discipline for yourself will bringing you to the next step to consider gambling as enjoyment moment because unlike other people who only thinking gambling to earn money but if you discipline during gambling then it makes you more confident when starting gambling but if you lost then you will consider that as usual thing and never thinking to recover your losses so in my opinion discipline in gambling not makes your gambling results better but it will makes your mentally better when facing lost or won

The OP I think pertains wether the discipline helps in gambling or not; not necessarily to make the result better which means that the output should always (most likely) be favorable of you. It's indeed that discipline is vital in gambling but it's just a factor though. Some irresponsible yet fortunate gamblers exist but of course we should never have the same mind set as they have since we're not too fortunate like them thus it'll just lead us to losses, making our decision most likely be inappropriate.

OP is seeking discipline from gambling, and I think that if a person is really disciplined he would not take gambling in the first place, Because gambling is a Risk magnet and it will certainly cater a lot of losses if this is the mindset for people then I guess there isn't someone that will play gambling and casino anymore, but a person if they had discipline in taking money for granted I think he will have a great time in making the right decision even if you are the one that is playing in a casino, I guess discipline is really needed, A good decision can not blur your choices when it comes to gambling.

Are you tyring to imply that gamblers are not disciplined? I don't think so. Being a disciplined individual isn't about risking something, it's about how you manage it. If I'm not wrong, risk management is under the disciplinary act in which you're correct that it must be the term for that. A good gambler with risk management/discipline doesn't go against his/her plan no matter what.

Gamblers are not the same, some of them have disciplinary methods while the others don't have it. As an individual, we have different characteristics and approaches on such things so it's kinda wrong when saying that gamblers don't have discipline. Some people that aren't gamblers don't have discipline, like what I've said, it depends on the people.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 27, 2019, 12:33:39 PM

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Quote from: bering on October 27, 2019, 09:45:09 AM

Discipline for yourself will bringing you to the next step to consider gambling as enjoyment moment because unlike other people who only thinking gambling to earn money but if you discipline during gambling then it makes you more confident when starting gambling but if you lost then you will consider that as usual thing and never thinking to recover your losses so in my opinion discipline in gambling not makes your gambling results better but it will makes your mentally better when facing lost or won

The OP I think pertains wether the discipline helps in gambling or not; not necessarily to make the result better which means that the output should always (most likely) be favorable of you. It's indeed that discipline is vital in gambling but it's just a factor though. Some irresponsible yet fortunate gamblers exist but of course we should never have the same mind set as they have since we're not too fortunate like them thus it'll just lead us to losses, making our decision most likely be inappropriate.

OP is seeking discipline from gambling, and I think that if a person is really disciplined he would not take gambling in the first place, Because gambling is a Risk magnet and it will certainly cater a lot of losses if this is the mindset for people then I guess there isn't someone that will play gambling and casino anymore, but a person if they had discipline in taking money for granted I think he will have a great time in making the right decision even if you are the one that is playing in a casino, I guess discipline is really needed, A good decision can not blur your choices when it comes to gambling.

Are you tyring to imply that gamblers are not disciplined? I don't think so. Being a disciplined individual isn't about risking something, it's about how you manage it. If I'm not wrong, risk management is under the disciplinary act in which you're correct that it must be the term for that. A good gambler with risk management/discipline doesn't go against his/her plan no matter what.

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If you somehow realize a short term advantage to yourself, have a few rules in place before you sit down to a gambling session and stick to them unconditionally:

1) A max. loss limit, think of this as your venture capital, if you hit this loss, simply means you lost an amount you anticipated in the first place, something you willingly agreed to risk beforehand, not a big deal, absorb it and move on. Do NOT add a new bankroll, stick to your game plan

2) A target profit amount, ideally should be multiples of your max. loss limit. If this number is hit, your short term "venture" was a success, great, mission complete. Walk away while you are a winner, don't ever let the house catch on with you.

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Quote from: leowonderful on October 27, 2019, 04:47:36 PM

Having good discipline might not make you win more in gambling because many games are purely luck-based, but for games that don't completely rely on luck, I can definitely see confidence being a good thing for your chances of winning.

That's part of the characteristics that is required from the gambler, if you have the discipline, you will not lose easily as you always think of tomorrow which is opposite from gambler who does not have discipline where they always want to end a day with a profit and that would result to chasing loses which might make them lose more than what is budgeted to gamble in a certain session.

The approach is systematic for gamblers with discipline.

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Having good discipline might not make you win more in gambling because many games are purely luck-based, but for games that don't completely rely on luck, I can definitely see confidence being a good thing for your chances of winning.

If you've got extremely weak discipline, you probably shouldn't be gambling in the first place because you're more prone to gambling more than you can afford. Gambling's certainly nothing to mess around with, especially when many people get hooked and can't stop, and others that just don't seem to learn from losses and continue to do the same thing over and over again in an attempt to 'earn back' their losses and more. A long time ago, I also used to rather recklessly gamble my money, and though I get less adrenaline from gambling now compared to then, I get a better feeling afterwards knowing I've still got plenty of money left compared to nothing or almost nothing.

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Quote from: Maotezi on October 25, 2019, 03:40:32 PM

How strong does a character need to be to set aside some amount of money on a weekly gamble?

strong enough to not be faltered or influenced by other trivial things. (i.e buying unnecessary stuff just because you think it's cute)

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What needs to happen to make it happen?

will and determination are what you need. if you don't have it you'll give up easily

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Does the great loss solidify our character?

it could crumble a person or it could strengthen his/her resolve to win.

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What exactly does it mean to discipline yourself in gambling (in the narrow sense)?

to have control over yourself in any situation. no matter how dire or great the situation is.

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Should we be disciplined in gambling, does it mean that we are better at gambling, or that we put less money at stake with more enjoyment, less fear, adrenaline, etc. ?
Me interested in answering the last question?

Yes, Discipline is one of the fundamentals in gambling which every gambler should have. but it doesn't mean you are better at gambling than others.

gambling is not as easy as ABC it is a mental game having mental strength means having more opportunities to win.

For sure its good to follow rules and to be disciplined as it helps to manage to lose. In gambling, one should try not to go beyond the limits. It’s good to learn before getting in any casino or game I know it's not easy to become a gambler one will have to work allot learning it. Rules and instructions need to follow and don’t invest in unknown sites as I have heard about some scamming sites nowadays.

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Quote from: TalkStar on October 27, 2019, 01:15:35 PM

I don't think that the word "Discipline" is going to bring any change for gambling during placing their bet. Actually it doesn't fit with the platform of gambling where you should have wide luck to make handsome profits. I have seen two type of gamblers where some like to gamble for enjoyment and others take it professionally. Professional gamblers have higher chances to win because usually the don't play for entertainment. Before placing their bet they make enough research during choose their side and its specially works for sports betting where most new gamblers like to go with their favorite one. So if you wanna find discipline on gamblers then professional gamblers would have little amount of that but not sharply.

But this theory works only for sports betting Cheesy

like because only in sports gambling one can analyse and apply predictions professionally and make money. In traditional gambling, it's really hard to predict such. And hence, the option of being professional is not available. Self controlling is the key in traditional gambling!

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on October 27, 2019, 01:06:34 PM

Setting aside some amount of money for gambling is a strategy used in other not to make a gambler loss more than the amount of money he can afford while the act of discipline is stuck to the amount purposed for gambling only without touching money kept for other expenses which are also a sign of being able to control ones buzz.

Discipline is not about controlling yourself but it is all about not even thinking about breaching your own set of rules. Yes, a disciplined gambler will never think about gambling beyond their limits. Being discipline in gambling is not possible in the beginning days for any gambler but it could be get into practice over the time but all the time you need to follow set of all your rules so that you can get into the zone of being disciplined.

Honestly I'm not a disciplined gambler because I do plan about gambling for free of cost but usually ending up by spending my hard earned money. Yes, in the beginning I do plan for only faucet gambling but, out of greedy to test my luck factor I do deposit my BTC and then lose it eventually at most of the times.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 27, 2019, 12:33:39 PM

OP is seeking discipline from gambling, and I think that if a person is really disciplined he would not take gambling in the first place, Because gambling is a Risk magnet and it will certainly cater a lot of losses if this is the mindset for people then I guess there isn't someone that will play gambling and casino anymore, but a person if they had discipline in taking money for granted I think he will have a great time in making the right decision even if you are the one that is playing in a casino, I guess discipline is really needed, A good decision can not blur your choices when it comes to gambling.

Depend on the culture and mind setting of a person. If he really don't like gambling then he won't. And playing a gambling game in a legit casino does not mean that the person do not have a discipline. That is a common misconception to people planted by the group of "feeling" righteous people(they hate gambling but they do raffle events lol). Gambling is a sort of entertainment that can give you an opportunity to take back more than what you spent. It is the same as going to Cinema, outing, and other entertainment. In a sense it is much better because as what I stated, there is a possibility to win back more than what you spend while spending on the latter will only exhaust your money without return.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on October 27, 2019, 01:01:35 PM

Frankly from my experience, you can't just learn to control gambling. You have to develop a habit whichwont come overnight. You have to form it slowly and gradually.

Experience plays an important role during gambling. No strategy can help. The losses you suffer, the embarrassment you face, the problems you get into, will shape you and your kind and make you mature enough to control the greed of gambling. You will know by instinct when you are gambling money which is "important". And this takes time until you know it.

You're wrong buddy cause a gambler can learn how to control gambling if he's discipline, understand the truth about gambling not been a means of getting rich overnight and also know the basic rules of gambling profitable. However, a gambler who has face an embarrassment in gambling is already a gambling addict and new gambler need to have knowledge about gambling and how to exit the game first in other to be self-discipline and not gambling first till the extent of suffering from losses, embarrassment and facing problems which may shape him into trouble.

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I don't think that the word "Discipline" is going to bring any change for gambling during placing their bet. Actually it doesn't fit with the platform of gambling where you should have wide luck to make handsome profits. I have seen two type of gamblers where some like to gamble for enjoyment and others take it professionally. Professional gamblers have higher chances to win because usually the don't play for entertainment. Before placing their bet they make enough research during choose their side and its specially works for sports betting where most new gamblers like to go with their favorite one. So if you wanna find discipline on gamblers then professional gamblers would have little amount of that but not sharply.

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Setting aside some amount of money for gambling is a strategy used in other not to make a gambler loss more than the amount of money he can afford while the act of discipline is stuck to the amount purposed for gambling only without touching money kept for other expenses which are also a sign of being able to control ones buzz.

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