Does the ETH/BTC ratio present a trading opportunity ? - page 2.

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Quote from: Thavash on January 20, 2020, 12:56:11 AM

Guys , I'm NOT saying sell BTC to buy ETH , that is risky ( given what we expect from BTC over the next 12-24 months , and the unknowns around ETH ).

What I'm saying in the video is that - should you want to buy more BTC now ( as we're still in the accumulation phase ) , it might be a good idea to invest some funds into ETH , and when the ratio climbs , you swop for BTC , this way you get more BTC than if you invested directly into BTC.

A valid way though but it depends on how much risk you can put on rather than going into the safe side.

If you can handle it out and do accept the risk then go ahead yet this one would really give out opportunity to accumulate even more BTC and same as yours i wont
consider on selling btc to buy ETH.You can accumulate btc without the need on doing such thing.

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Although ETH is still the second largest currency in the market, since the scam ICO appears regularly and the delay in updating to the 2.0 update has caused ETH to lose investor confidence. A lot of investors have abandoned ETH and no appointment to return.
If you think the current ETH / BTC ratio is good I think you should buy it, but I think this is not the right time to buy more ETH.

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Quote from: Thavash on January 19, 2020, 04:10:04 PM

Whatever your views on Ethereum, the fact is that the value of ETH to BTC is still very low ( even compared to historical performance ). Does this present a trading opportunity to perhaps buy more Bitcoin for your dollar ? ( By buying ETH and when the ratio goes up trade it for Bitcoin ? ) - There is some insight on this here : https://youtu.be/hY2m0HtAw7g

I think that it is good if we buy crypto using fiat or dollar. Because when the Ethereum price was moving the Bitcoin price also be moved, they have almost tied up the price and I think I will rather hold my bitcoin than investing in an altcoin. That's why when Bitcoin was drastically going down there is USDT (a stable coin) that you can divert to cut your lose and reinvest again in Bitcoin once you feel that it will surge back in the market. However, due to the market unpredictable, we should have a perfect timing in trading.

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Quote from: Thavash on January 19, 2020, 04:10:04 PM

Whatever your views on Ethereum, the fact is that the value of ETH to BTC is still very low ( even compared to historical performance ). Does this present a trading opportunity to perhaps buy more Bitcoin for your dollar ? ( By buying ETH and when the ratio goes up trade it for Bitcoin ? ) - There is some insight on this here : https://youtu.be/hY2m0HtAw7g

The low conversion value of ETH to BTC is the indication that ETH is no longer a promising investment as it was an year or two ago. Due to ICO boom couple of years ago, prices of ETH skyrocketed. But since then it is continuously falling. ICO trend is outdating, people no longer taking risk by investing in new coins, rather they are buying coins already listed on exchange.
Hence, near future of Ethereum is also looking bleak as compared to Bitcoin. Don't be surprised if ratio falls further in coming months. Better keep your funds in BTC than ETH.

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Quote from: Assface16678 on January 20, 2020, 05:02:51 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on January 20, 2020, 12:26:43 AM

It's just as valid as any other trading opportunity on any other Bitcoin to altcoin pair out there. I also agree that it does seem like the ETHBTC ratio has bottomed out in the past few months and doesn't seem very likely to go down in the near future, but it's still pretty risky, though the rewards could also potentially be good. Bitcoin rising in price also doesn't guarantee that something like ETH will necessarily rise in BTC value; the little bull run we had in 2019 didn't do much to change the downtrend in ETHBTC at all, and actually accelerated it when things began turning around.

Today we are now experiencing the price of the bitcoin and ethereum got drop and this is an excellent chance to make a lot of investment because after the price goes down because of the amount of the bitcoin and eth on the previous week shows a reasonable market price now we are experiencing a crisis. It is better to grab the opportunity to make more investment, so in the future it can give a good market value and profit.

The drop is not bad actually compare on what happen last year and the price is reasonable also the volatility is profitable if you know how to day trade. The crisis you man subsides little by little due to the halving hype and maybe we can experience the bullish season starting this month or maybe in next so best to grab the opportunity so that you will not buy an expensive BTC and left out when the hype for it gone.

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Both are profitable as long you know when enter and out, the problem only about moment. Value always make people think to replace money but both have good foundation to keep going, slow movement but in up mode. The point is you try to invite us invest with eth but how we can buy eth if not sell btc, people like me doesn't have enough money for investment. Your target is Eth 2.0 but you must understand market is unpredictable, so btc still become priority.

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Quote from: leowonderful on January 20, 2020, 12:26:43 AM

It's just as valid as any other trading opportunity on any other Bitcoin to altcoin pair out there. I also agree that it does seem like the ETHBTC ratio has bottomed out in the past few months and doesn't seem very likely to go down in the near future, but it's still pretty risky, though the rewards could also potentially be good. Bitcoin rising in price also doesn't guarantee that something like ETH will necessarily rise in BTC value; the little bull run we had in 2019 didn't do much to change the downtrend in ETHBTC at all, and actually accelerated it when things began turning around.

Today we are now experiencing the price of the bitcoin and ethereum got drop and this is an excellent chance to make a lot of investment because after the price goes down because of the amount of the bitcoin and eth on the previous week shows a reasonable market price now we are experiencing a crisis. It is better to grab the opportunity to make more investment, so in the future it can give a good market value and profit.

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I understand that you are trying to figure out which one will provide more returns for the same level of investment, right? There will be no guarantee that ethereum will test its previous high whereas bitcoin will definitely scale even one million dollar level too. For fiat calculations bitcoin is always the better and safest option and if you look for multiplying your bitcoins then altcoins are good still you need to diversify your investments across multiple thing and not just only with ethereum.

I choose fiat calculations rather than risking with altcoins for the reason of multiplying my bitcoin stash. Investment life is simple and I do not want to complicate it with uncalculated risks.

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Guys , I'm NOT saying sell BTC to buy ETH , that is risky ( given what we expect from BTC over the next 12-24 months , and the unknowns around ETH ).

What I'm saying in the video is that - should you want to buy more BTC now ( as we're still in the accumulation phase ) , it might be a good idea to invest some funds into ETH , and when the ratio climbs , you swop for BTC , this way you get more BTC than if you invested directly into BTC.

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It's just as valid as any other trading opportunity on any other Bitcoin to altcoin pair out there. I also agree that it does seem like the ETHBTC ratio has bottomed out in the past few months and doesn't seem very likely to go down in the near future, but it's still pretty risky, though the rewards could also potentially be good. Bitcoin rising in price also doesn't guarantee that something like ETH will necessarily rise in BTC value; the little bull run we had in 2019 didn't do much to change the downtrend in ETHBTC at all, and actually accelerated it when things began turning around.

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Isn't the idea basically the same as buy low and sell high? Just that more avenues open if you use other coins, but at the same time, could also be used to send you down if eth to usd goes down. It isn't like the eth to btc pair almost always goes up,since most coins follow the pattern of btc. If btc goes down, most likely sooner or later, eth would follow.

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Quote from: Thavash on January 19, 2020, 04:10:04 PM

Whatever your views on Ethereum, the fact is that the value of ETH to BTC is still very low ( even compared to historical performance ). Does this present a trading opportunity to perhaps buy more Bitcoin for your dollar ? ( By buying ETH and when the ratio goes up trade it for Bitcoin ? ) - There is some insight on this here : https://youtu.be/hY2m0HtAw7g

Yes, this is the basic concept of trading anything. Buy low and sell high. Eth is extremely low in price right now. If you buy it at the current price of around .02 and it ends up pumping to .15 or more, you will have made more BTC. Now, I don't really focus too much on the fiat dollar amount when I'm doing trades simply because I just want to stack up as much Bitcoin as possible. However, I'm sure that if ETH is pumped up to over .10 or whatever, Bitcoin will probably also be at a high. So, you will not only have increased your BTC amount, but your dollar value as well.

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Btc is more profitable than ETH.though I'm holding eth because to make balance my portfolio.I know If i look forward to btc pairs then i can see that i am in loss.but is usd pair is profitable.But hoping eth will be boom. For those who are telling that because of ICO eth going down or thinking that it can't go up,you guys wait for 2.0

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Quote from: Thavash on January 19, 2020, 04:10:04 PM

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Does this present a trading opportunity to perhaps buy more Bitcoin for your dollar ? ( By buying ETH and when the ratio goes up trade it for Bitcoin ?
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For me, I'd rather hold my Bitcoin than using it to buy some altcoin like Ethereum, as what you said ETH/BTC pair is still and no sign for any bull movements.
If you just use your US Dollar to buy Ethereum, then it's much better than using your existing Bitcoin especially if you bought that lower than the price of if now.
I also thinking about this, I'd rather hold my BTC than using to to buy some ALTCOINS.

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Sure it does. This is one of the biggest markets in crypto and definitely the most popular dApp platform and it's been historically low. What more do you expect from a coin? Promises? All you get from ADA or similar EOSes is 'we will' and here you have a working community as well as huge amount of resources to build your projects on. GL anyone recruiting crypto specialists for your business who are real experts in anything besides top5.

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You want people to buy ETH because there are updates that can lift its price when its finally going POS?

The investors I guess would first buy BTC and goes to ETH but I wouldn't expect much to invest to ETH now that its BTC halving is where these investors are watching. Its not the ones that will give profit for them, not until BTC touches the $20k again.

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Quote from: Thavash on January 19, 2020, 04:59:27 PM

Yes, but there may be gains based on the ETH 2.0 launch - watch the video and let me know your thoughts

Here are they:
Your idea is that BTC is high and ETH is low now and we could sell BTC and buy some ETH. I don't agree. If we look at BTC mining power that is at ATH now and the coming halving and compare them to the state in 2017 when Bitcoin was at 20 thousand dollars we can see that it can not only go to 20 but far beyond that.

Selling it now to buy ETH is not what I'd do. It's still a better option than buying some worthless shit like SV or XRP but not as good as holding Bitcoin in anticipation of the halving.

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Yes, but there may be gains based on the ETH 2.0 launch - watch the video and let me know your thoughts

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But why should the exchange rate be any different? ETH was high because of the ICO boom. Now we all know what ICOs were and how many of them lost money for investors. The price of ETH is reflecting that.

Vitalik dumping some of his ETH in 2017 also doesn't make a believer out of me and works like a deterrent for those who know about it.

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Whatever your views on Ethereum, the fact is that the value of ETH to BTC is still very low ( even compared to historical performance ). Does this present a trading opportunity to perhaps buy more Bitcoin for your dollar ? ( By buying ETH and when the ratio goes up trade it for Bitcoin ? ) - There is some insight on this here : https://youtu.be/hY2m0HtAw7g

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