Topic: Does Vod deserve VIP status? (Read 1031 times)

OK, this thread has been invaded by the cowardly trolls.   Thanks to everyone who posted, and to Suchmoon, who actually joined the forum before I did. 

I agree with the consensus that I should not get the Donator/VIP tag - they are limited to very specific contributions.  (Apologies to Foxpup, when I made this thread after closing the donator one, I did not realize VIP was worth more BTC than Donator.)

I would like a title that recognizes my contribution as being worth more than giving stolen coins to others (apologies to the honest donators who don't go around calling attention to their donation).  I think a good title would be Inventor.  Short, simple - I didn't give financial value a time the forum needed it, but I gave other value - the same kind the forum itself does to a community.  So I will lock this topic and hopefully wake up one day with a custom title. 

Is this wildly off topic, irrelevant, speculative and incorrect garbage meant to refute any of the points I just made?
Just wanting to give you another chance to redeem yourself.
Give it a real go next time. Take your time.

Said the person having to change their username every other month because they can't even maintain the confidence to stand by all the stupid shit they've said over the years.   

Looking forward to the next persona.  I think this one is already spent. 

Simply making posts on the forum? Yes nothing major has ever been achieved by people wasting time with that hey?

Certainly nothing that could measure up to being able to see your top 20 merit fans and recipients over the last year.
I think you'll find simply posting on the forum has in some instances  been far more important and useful to this movement than Bpip.

Even so their achievement would be subjective. If they donated 10 or 50 btc is not.
Notable contributors to this forum would be another mess if it wasn't objective.

Having looked through Vods history I can say I see nothing of note and no reason to believe he is important in the history of Bitcoin nor the forum. I really dont see things would have been different in any meaningful way had vod not existed. There is no sensible case to present that suggests he made any difference in any way to any project here.  

The end.

P.s your point about rank demonstrating what you've contributed here is even more stupid,  so I won't embarrass you by going into that further.

It almost sounds like you're asking for a "participation award" where everyone gets something just for taking part.  Your ordinary rank is what demonstrates what you've contributed to the forum.  But if you have done something special or unique, that's a different story.

I don't think it's unreasonable for the people who have gone above and beyond in terms of the useful service they provide to be recognised for their efforts.  If people are building infrastructure that supports the forum and lots of users find that really helpful, it's clearly a more significant accomplishment than simply making posts on the forum.

And with this suggestion of yours, do you think it would be fair to the average forum user?. Before this suggestion, you felt Vod or any other user that have contributed greatly to the forum, them getting a VIP status won't be fair to the past donators why then do you think a new rank just for them would be ideal?. If theymos wants to introduce a new rank to the forum, that I would support without second thoughts but it shouldn't be restricted to just those that are fortunate to have the skills to do such.

I'm sure others would had loved to contribute too but since they're not equipped to do such they have to turned to just keeping the forum active with quality discussion and clean from scammers and spamming which obviously is enough contribution to the betterment of the forum. They should get some recognition like the art contest winners did some months back, I'm sure everyone will be ok with that development.

That’s simple. Vod has never donated anything. He’s a selfish lying little prick that will be remembered as such. He’s far more likely to be banned or carry a Scammer Tag than receive a VIP title. This thread is a nice reminder at just how great of a disconnect there is between Vod’s delusions and reality.

Exactly this level of complete and utter failure/loser aka been here since 2011 and still on welfare is an outstanding performance.
Really Vod should be synonymous with utter failure, embarrassment and disgrace. It takes a lot of exceedingly poor judgement to avoid as much wealth as Vod has.

Like if someone tries to edit their past dishonest actions you say: did you just nutildah your post history?
So the same with Vod. For example someone asked me why I didn't purchase ETH at ico prices.  I would say nah I pulled a Vod on that one sadly. Of course that would be exaggerating the mistake.
Vod doesn't just have a single string to his bow either. There are many other notable and entirely disgraceful actions that add extra notoriety to his status.
In his own way he is a very very very important member. Not many others could be used as such a classic example of how not to proceed in this arena.  I expect these same lessons would apply to a great deal of other situations where the aim is not to end up old and broke after having been given one of the greatest opportunities in history. 

Bpip? That site that rips raw data from the forum so vod could rank and weight the raw data in such a way as that he was number 1 most popular member?  A vip if you will.
Thanks Vod, this was a very funny thread.
I tried to vote give it to him. He is a gem. VVVIP.

Jetcash? Of course admires Vod. He's 84 lives in a van and gets access to the internet when he can afford another happy meal. They are both VIP's. Get them both added asap.

Well, it looked like cheese and tasted like one, so I took their word for it

As Jet Cash says:
Sample:

Same old story about donation, lowering it, creating an ~ alternative which is copper member...
I prefer to keep VIP and donator as it is, just for the ones donated 50 or 10 BTC respectively, or else it will not be fair at all... However for some well known members that contributed too much for the community then a special name/tag/position may be more suitable imo. You have one in your mind Vod?

I am not sure how much you donated and when, but the value of your donation is probably higher than the value of the 50 BTC that were donated by early donators back in the time. And you created bpip, a site almost everyone here has used at least once. 

I remember that there was a discussion in Meta a while ago whether or not the 50 BTC threshold to become a VIP should be lowered, because it makes no sense in today's world where 1 BTC is worth more than those 50 BTC donated back in the times. Many members were against the idea, I thought it made sense. Taking all that into account, you will probably not get the community's approval to wear the VIP tag solely because of the fact that you didn't donate 50 BTC. 

I wouldn't mind you being awarded a special tag, if that is what the admins decide. 

Did you see someone put the cheese in there, or just take their word they would after you paid them?

So what you're saying is that if I have a bag of leftover cheese in my fridge, I am a billionaire?

~1 shred of cheese on a pizza

Actually, it's 10BTC:
Without checking, I always thought Donator was more expensive than VIP.

^^ Don't care what he posted then or in the future.  If I need to know when to turn left on a red I'll ask that idiot.

LOL.  You are a cancer to this forum.  You harass people who contribute a great deal more than yourself and you are so delusional you can't even see this place would be better off without you.  VIP status?  LOL.  The administrator of this forum has you on his distrust list because you're a known liar and troublemaker.  If you get a custom title, it should be Delusional Troll.  Even that would be too good for you, as fading away into nothingness more suits your contributions here.

I fully agree with the concept of atomizing - "Donator" just means someone who donated 50btc - even if it was worth pennies at the time, or the btc was stolen.  I'm OK with that.

It would be nice to have a title that recognizes I contributed a lot more than the donators.   During the same period they were donating pennies, I was donating valuable time and experience - the kind that you need to pay millions for today.  (see Epochtalk).

Finally, I recognize the human/evolutionary response of valuing something less if you did not witness it.   Besides Suchmoon, I joined before everyone else posting here, but my past actions are worthless to new members and my merit has been devalued because it's not "earned", whatever that means.   So I accept even though I did more for this forum than the donators, there was no recognized title for it at the time.

No doubt Vod you are an asset to this community and if VIP status will make you happy to appreciate your contribution to the forum, We would have given you that. however, the boss is the last to decide that. Good Luck though.

I agree with the "Contributor" title, and the BPIP logo added as a nice tie-in

VIP - I don't think it should be given who haven't donated 50 Bitcoins. Because you didn't done that.
But I really appreciate what you did for Bitcointalk and I'm sure that you deserve some custom rank. I think that theymos should give special rank for people like you. Maybe it can be called "Contributor".

Not special rank perhaps, but theymos has on a few occasions assigned custom subtitles to some users for fairly simple reasons, e.g.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54606624

Unless Theymos were to change the designations of those ranks, but I seriously doubt he's going to do that.  Those terms "Donator" and "VIP" have a very specific meaning on bitcointalk, and I don't think anyone who didn't fulfill the criteria for either one ought to have either title. 

That said, I think Vod has dedicated a lot of his time to the forum trying to bust scammers and keep order (especially in the Lending section), and he's been doing this for years.  Hell, he registered in 2011 and that's a long time to be a member of any forum.  I do think Vod probably deserves some recognition for all the good things he's done, just not the "VIP" title.

Is Theymos even considering doing that?  Did I miss a discussion about this? 

I can't remember what is was but there was a rank above "legendary" for 100000 posts (where it just stopped displaying post count).

Thatd be fun... 10000 merit and 10000 activity (10k activity is 27 years though).

And the vip and donator ranks are special, we can't just be handing them out. You should've dm'd Theymos and ask for a "bpip founder" custom text with a link to the bpip.

I like it! 2000+ Activity Rank should be "Random Internet Hobo".

This would not be fair to those that have donated although you could probably argue you have donated your time in helping the community but others will debate that your contribution has had more negative effects than positives (whether that is accurate or not should probably be judged on an individual basis) I think there should be a new rank added to those that have contributed a great amount to the forum without any monetary donation and the rank would be reserved for only those that have significant contribtions. I'm thinking Suchmoon and people who have pretty much dedicated a lot of time to helping the community.

I think you are being a little humble here because I can assure you that there's many members here who look up to the likes of you and other members that have made a contribution to the community. I think everyone has someone they either respect or hold as a role model in the community. I agree that the legendary rank has lost all meaning since the decision to allow members to get a free legendary rank but I think there are some truly legendary people who reside on the forum and not only contribute to the forums but Bitcoin and should be honored for that as much as possible.

How about we get rid of all displayed ranks and other trinkets and just leave the actual privileges, like avatars and stuff. Throw in some silly new ones for 2000+, 4000+, etc - like allowing bbcode in personal text or allowing to change the font of your username. We're not "Heroes" or "Legendaries", just random internet hobos who spend way too much time on a nerdy site.

Vod is vod - surely that is recognition enough.

Recent months, there is a story about a company account that has a custom title, with 'aka' at the end. I don't remember the username.

• Users with Custom Title. It is outdated because OP was banned. I guess you or @DdmrDdmr can help to update it.

The last donator is Claymore and with a donation at $1,242.

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Found. That account is MoparMiningLLC with a custom title as ^{aka Stryfe}

I don't think people should be given VIP status based on the current system. There should be more ranks though... or Legendary is made harder to get by requiring much more activity and/or merit. That would at least set users apart as its become quite common to be a Legendary now and the people who attained that rank before the merit system got it pretty easy just by making sure they posted once in 56 periods. At least if we required a high amount of merit people would have at least earned that rank and it would mean something special and become worth of its name. It would be nice to see an additional rank though for users that do attain an exceptional amount of it (Exceptional Member?  ) and with 3234 Activity and 2649 Merit maybe Vod would qualify. Maybe 2000 Merit and 2000 Activity would be a good benchmark.

I like it. I like it so much that I'll probably steal the idea to create some new starts on BPIP unless someone else steals it first (looking at TryNinja obviously).

VIP is nice but you have letter V in your name and you can have your own special VOD status
I expect this topic to be very long when all Vods archemenies wake up and see it.
Many thanks for BPIP again.

VIP doesn't sound like it included a donation (even though it did).

I think this boils down to the discussion to lower the donation amounts of 10BTC and 50BTC to an amount that's closer to the dollar-value it had at the time others donated. That didn't happen: 1 BTC = 1 BTC.

I've seen members who got a custom title by just asking theymos. That might work for Vod too.

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How about a new rank for users who have been around for a decade? This can be measured by reaching 10 full years in Activity periods, meaning a post in at least 260 Activity periods. This doesn't have to be 3640 Activity, one post per Activity period is enough.

I am also sharing YOSHIE's opinion. His suggestion can be set easy, with a custom title. VIP / DONATOR ranks have certain rules for being awarded, already highlighted by mk4. But a custom title would be able to reflect VOD's contributions.

rules are clear here, and VIP assumes that you have donated 50 BTC, did you? if you did not, then it does not make sense to ask for the status

you have done a lot for the forum, and some kind of appreciation should be given, but you cannot ask for the status, if you are not fit with the requirements

of course, decision is up to @theymos, but i have voted "no"

If VIP would be like we'd expect to be, the answer would be yes.
But here VIP means 50BTC donated and we're back to the same problem you had with the "Donator" position: it would be unfair vs the actual donators.

I also think that a special badge or status is the proper way to go. Sorry.

Perhaps some form of new status like "Forum Statistician" would be appropriate?  An officially recognised number-cruncher. I can think of a few users who would qualify.

Normally ^{[if it was a different kind of forum]}, "YES" but since this forum is a bit different in the sense that those sub-ranks are given after a certain amount in donations ^{[for the most part]}, I think a special badge would fit your description more.

But... VIP rank is higher than Donator.

Same answer to the "Donator" question. You deserve a special rank, but not the Donator and VIP rank. Completely up to Theymos what special rank he's going to give you.

VIP does not match.

I prefer to see the profile: @Vod as below:



@Vod: has tough challenges in fighting for Bpip's site and many sacrifices that he experienced while Bpip was founded.

I think the title for @Vod fits the profile better: (Bpip founder).

No politics - no drama - just the facts.  Theymos' ultimate decision. 

Ok - Donator was not acceptable to the community. 

I designed bpip.org as a hobby, got hacked, launched officially with ibminer, and the project was saved by suchmoon after my hard drives suffered a design flaw (same as my heart valve ha!).  I spent hundreds of hours in devotion to accountability of users.

People may copy this action or complain about it.   My standing grace is my early adoption, lack of any financial mistrust, and proven love of crypto and this community.

Is my contribution not worth a VIP status?