All I know is that Satoshi is comfortably wealthy now.
Any idea by how much ? 
Topic: Doesn't the fact that this thing was created by someone who can't be .... (Read 1354 times)
January 14, 2013, 08:45:05 AM
January 14, 2013, 05:50:50 AM
Now obviously we can't compare this to fiats, but every other technical and crypto invention out there can be traced back (although sometimes with a bit of founder-discrepancy) to the inventor .. apart from this.
I rather put my faith in a technical or crypto invention that inherently doesn't NEED the ability to be traced back to anyone, in order to be able to trust it.Suppose nobody would have ever heard of the famous Greek mathematician Pythagoras, and he published his mathematical proof for the a²+b²=c² rule anonymously. Would that make the proof, and thus the rule, any less trustworthy?
January 14, 2013, 05:46:58 AM
It doesn't matter who Satoshi is (could be even multiple persons). He published an idea, and once the idea was out there, everybody could pick it up and work on it.
The software based on his (or their) idea is fully open source, transparent, and open for review to anyone.
The software based on his (or their) idea is fully open source, transparent, and open for review to anyone.
Great replies so far. ..... just checking - not a gram of suspicion from anybody ?
Suspicion about what? January 14, 2013, 05:11:42 AM
Indeed, sometimes it seems that the Bitcoin protocol must have been developed over many years by many smart people, then sent back into an alternate past (ours) as a fully-formed gift for us to benefit from. Whoever it was, thanks 
John Titor has been brought up on this forum in 2011. He said something about a global currency but did not mention Bitcoin by name. you are funny. Lets look up John Titors father and ask him as John Titor visited him last time he was here. The present John Titor is 15 years old now and was a baby when he visited his father the last time.John Titor, lol. Didn't he have to come back from the future to get an old IBM computer because someone discovered an ECDSA crack that would only run on that model's CPU? Or maybe due to the nuclear war the network hash rate had gotten so low that he thought he could mount a 51% attack using it. Whatever
LOL even funnier. He claimed he had military rank, but he could just as easily have stolen the singularity generator from an army depot. Maybe he's a quant from JP Morgan?
January 12, 2013, 12:49:28 PM
Indeed, sometimes it seems that the Bitcoin protocol must have been developed over many years by many smart people, then sent back into an alternate past (ours) as a fully-formed gift for us to benefit from. Whoever it was, thanks
John Titor has been brought up on this forum in 2011. He said something about a global currency but did not mention Bitcoin by name. you are funny. Lets look up John Titors father and ask him as John Titor visited him last time he was here. The present John Titor is 15 years old now and was a baby when he visited his father the last time.John Titor, lol. Didn't he have to come back from the future to get an old IBM computer because someone discovered an ECDSA crack that would only run on that model's CPU? Or maybe due to the nuclear war the network hash rate had gotten so low that he thought he could mount a 51% attack using it. Whatever
January 12, 2013, 06:24:57 AM
The paper is there for you to read, and so is the code. Not just to read, but to build upon, improve it, ruin it, ignore it, use it. Lots of people have contributed to Bitcoin, before and after "Satoshi".
Let me ask you this: what would change regarding your and my use of Bitcoin if it turned out that "Satoshi" was a CS university professor? Or that he was a she? Or a shemale? Or a group of quants? Or employees of the Chinese government? Or former employees of the Chinese or Romanian or Irish Central Bank? Or a retired cryptanalyst and his 30-year old wife, who works for the Federal Reserve?
Does any of this change anything in the source code and in various implementations the community is working on?
Let me ask you this: what would change regarding your and my use of Bitcoin if it turned out that "Satoshi" was a CS university professor? Or that he was a she? Or a shemale? Or a group of quants? Or employees of the Chinese government? Or former employees of the Chinese or Romanian or Irish Central Bank? Or a retired cryptanalyst and his 30-year old wife, who works for the Federal Reserve?
Does any of this change anything in the source code and in various implementations the community is working on?
Indeed, sometimes it seems that the Bitcoin protocol must have been developed over many years by many smart people, then sent back into an alternate past (ours) as a fully-formed gift for us to benefit from. Whoever it was, thanks
John Titor has been brought up on this forum in 2011. He said something about a global currency but did not mention Bitcoin by name. you are funny. Lets look up John Titors father and ask him as John Titor visited him last time he was here. The present John Titor is 15 years old now and was a baby when he visited his father the last time.
January 12, 2013, 06:12:46 AM
ok - so perhaps the avoidance of being political target was incredible foresight on his behalf - after all if you could predict that the most written about early adopters (note I did not say the most use - but just what the press focus on) of this currency is silk road, gambling in the US etc etc - then wouldn't any govt. love it if they could also drag up an email or two from the past where the founder of this "criminal enabling" currency also once attended a "99% rally". Cue daily mail rant ...
Please note that I am using quotes as this is exactly what the anti-bitcoin press would love to be able to print.
Please note that I am using quotes as this is exactly what the anti-bitcoin press would love to be able to print.
January 12, 2013, 06:10:59 AM
I took the pictures of Hitler and Stalin and tried to come up with a Frankenstein's monster combination of the two. I've put the originals in the background for comparison, what do you think?
That you have a bad taste of humor!
January 12, 2013, 05:47:29 AM
I took the pictures of Hitler and Stalin and tried to come up with a Frankenstein's monster combination of the two. I've put the originals in the background for comparison, what do you think?
January 12, 2013, 02:53:22 AM
The paper is there for you to read, and so is the code. Not just to read, but to build upon, improve it, ruin it, ignore it, use it. Lots of people have contributed to Bitcoin, before and after "Satoshi".
Let me ask you this: what would change regarding your and my use of Bitcoin if it turned out that "Satoshi" was a CS university professor? Or that he was a she? Or a shemale? Or a group of quants? Or employees of the Chinese government? Or former employees of the Chinese or Romanian or Irish Central Bank? Or a retired cryptanalyst and his 30-year old wife, who works for the Federal Reserve?
Does any of this change anything in the source code and in various implementations the community is working on?
Let me ask you this: what would change regarding your and my use of Bitcoin if it turned out that "Satoshi" was a CS university professor? Or that he was a she? Or a shemale? Or a group of quants? Or employees of the Chinese government? Or former employees of the Chinese or Romanian or Irish Central Bank? Or a retired cryptanalyst and his 30-year old wife, who works for the Federal Reserve?
Does any of this change anything in the source code and in various implementations the community is working on?
Indeed, sometimes it seems that the Bitcoin protocol must have been developed over many years by many smart people, then sent back into an alternate past (ours) as a fully-formed gift for us to benefit from. Whoever it was, thanks
January 12, 2013, 02:47:43 AM
Let me ask you this: what would change regarding your and my use of Bitcoin if it turned out that "Satoshi" was a CS university professor? Or that he was a she? Or a shemale? Or a group of quants? Or employees of the Chinese government? Or former employees of the Chinese or Romanian or Irish Central Bank? Or a retired cryptanalyst and his 30-year old wife, who works for the Federal Reserve?
Or (since you missed the most obvious which I've already proposed) a Frankenstein's monster of Hitler and Stalin.
You guys are crazy.
It was Ben Bernanke.
January 12, 2013, 02:19:25 AM
Great replies so far. ..... just checking - not a gram of suspicion from anybody ?
Suspicion of what? (I know, DannyHamilton beat me to it.) The paper is there for you to read, and so is the code. Not just to read, but to build upon, improve it, ruin it, ignore it, use it. Lots of people have contributed to Bitcoin, before and after "Satoshi".
Let me ask you this: what would change regarding your and my use of Bitcoin if it turned out that "Satoshi" was a CS university professor? Or that he was a she? Or a shemale? Or a group of quants? Or employees of the Chinese government? Or former employees of the Chinese or Romanian or Irish Central Bank? Or a retired cryptanalyst and his 30-year old wife, who works for the Federal Reserve?
Does any of this change anything in the source code and in various implementations the community is working on?
January 12, 2013, 02:01:57 AM
Great replies so far. ..... just checking - not a gram of suspicion from anybody ?
Suspicion of what? I've read the code. I'm not sure what you are thinking there is to be suspicious of. 
January 12, 2013, 01:39:24 AM
All I know is that Satoshi is comfortably wealthy now.
January 12, 2013, 01:10:57 AM
It has nothing whatsoever to do with the man. It might speed adoption that he can't be smeared as a kitten rapist but that's only because of mood affiliation fallacy or something like that.
January 12, 2013, 12:40:36 AM
Great replies so far. ..... just checking - not a gram of suspicion from anybody ?
If Bitcoin were a closed system, I would be suspicious. It's open source and anyone suspecting anything can review the code to their satisfaction. 
January 11, 2013, 11:27:40 PM
Great replies so far. ..... just checking - not a gram of suspicion from anybody ?
If Bitcoin were a closed system, I would be suspicious. It's open source and anyone suspecting anything can review the code to their satisfaction. 
January 11, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
.... identified bother anybody?
Please don't judge me as a naysayer. In fact the more I read about the bitcoin phenomenon the more I am hooked.. If only I didn't have such large outgoings right now !!
But the biggest thing that sticks in my mind is the fact that Satoshi - the genius that he is - hasn't been truly identified or congratulated for his work so far.
Now obviously we can't compare this to fiats, but every other technical and crypto invention out there can be traced back (although sometimes with a bit of founder-discrepancy) to the inventor .. apart from this.
Any comments ?
If Satoshi had revealed he's identity he would have become a public figure and possibly a political target for the rest of he's life, generally something that the sort of person who develops software would propably be keen on avoiding. I can completeley understand why he/she/they remain anonymous and it does not bother me, the sourcecode has been read by thousands of capable persons and no back door exists. Please don't judge me as a naysayer. In fact the more I read about the bitcoin phenomenon the more I am hooked.. If only I didn't have such large outgoings right now !!
But the biggest thing that sticks in my mind is the fact that Satoshi - the genius that he is - hasn't been truly identified or congratulated for his work so far.
Now obviously we can't compare this to fiats, but every other technical and crypto invention out there can be traced back (although sometimes with a bit of founder-discrepancy) to the inventor .. apart from this.
Any comments ?
January 11, 2013, 09:05:13 PM
Great replies so far. ..... just checking - not a gram of suspicion from anybody ?
January 11, 2013, 08:54:31 PM
There's something noble about sharing what your hard work creates without want for fame.
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