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legendary
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November 11, 2018, 10:59:20 PM
#43
If Donald Trump and his supporters are all racists, what happened between Obama being elected and Trump? Did all the people who voted for Obama suddenly become racists? Because in order for Obama to win a very large percentage of those who voted Trump would have had to have voted for Obama as well.

It's fair to say that blacks voting for Obama is racist.

But I won't.

We know that today, the term is thrown around all the time and in any direction in which a politically correct insult is considered useful.

I happened to see Trump in a meeting with a black man who had lost a son to gang violence in 2015, before he ran for POTUS, and I know he wasn't and isn't racist.

It's just amusing to see the attempts to pin the label on him.

It has nothing to do with the truth, and everything to do with the smear.
legendary
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November 11, 2018, 10:22:33 PM
#42
If Donald Trump and his supporters are all racists, what happened between Obama being elected and Trump? Did all the people who voted for Obama suddenly become racists? Because in order for Obama to win a very large percentage of those who voted Trump would have had to have voted for Obama as well.
legendary
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November 11, 2018, 10:08:49 PM
#41
Ellis Island Medal of Honor in celebration of "patriotism, tolerance, brotherhood and diversity"

^That doesn’t sound like a medal they’d give to a racist, yet Donald Trump received it. I’d say OP either has no idea what he’s talking about, or he’s some Liberal with an agenda he’s desperately trying to push.

Regardless of motive.

Such a medal is solid proof of the opposite of racism.

Let him show the best evidence he can, that Trump is racist.
donator
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November 11, 2018, 07:06:57 PM
#40
Ellis Island Medal of Honor in celebration of "patriotism, tolerance, brotherhood and diversity"

^That doesn’t sound like a medal they’d give to a racist, yet Donald Trump received it. I’d say OP either has no idea what he’s talking about, or he’s some Liberal with an agenda he’s desperately trying to push.
legendary
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November 11, 2018, 06:42:45 PM
#39
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He's wasn't a racist because it was okay to be racist back then?

Alrighty then, I'm pretty sure he "was" a racist and "is" a racist.

Well, you really are reaching back to when it was okay to be a racist to make your arguments.

Whether that's true is another matter.

Just pointing out that that's a ridiculous argument to support your case.

But since your argument is a lie to start with, why expect sound supporting facts?
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November 11, 2018, 06:13:14 PM
#38
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NO DOGS ALLOWED.

Man, if we were like Trump, we could just say "NO TROLLS ALLOWED" and ban all people like TECHSHARE.

Should probably read the FBI paperwork on that case. It's pretty sad.

You don't understand what you are arguing. The 1968 law was intended to correct a large number of issues, and it was used for that purpose. Many practices were endemic in the real estate industries. They were corrected through the use of the 1968 law.

So what if there was a case of it's use against Trump ending in a settlement in 1975?

Same with a thousand other companies, dude.

You're proving the reverse of what you seek. By having to go back to ancient history to drag up things that look bad (back when they were the standard practice of the day) you are actually proving that Trump's not a racist.

Thanks.

He's wasn't a racist because it was okay to be racist back then?

Alrighty then, I'm pretty sure he "was" a racist and "is" a racist.
legendary
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November 11, 2018, 04:21:42 PM
#37
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NO DOGS ALLOWED.

Man, if we were like Trump, we could just say "NO TROLLS ALLOWED" and ban all people like TECHSHARE.

Should probably read the FBI paperwork on that case. It's pretty sad.

You don't understand what you are arguing. The 1968 law was intended to correct a large number of issues, and it was used for that purpose. Many practices were endemic in the real estate industries. They were corrected through the use of the 1968 law.

So what if there was a case of it's use against Trump ending in a settlement in 1975?

Same with a thousand other companies, dude.

You're proving the reverse of what you seek. By having to go back to ancient history to drag up things that look bad (back when they were the standard practice of the day) you are actually proving that Trump's not a racist.

Thanks.
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November 11, 2018, 03:45:55 PM
#36
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NO DOGS ALLOWED.

Man, if we were like Trump, we could just say "NO TROLLS ALLOWED" and ban all people like TECHSHARE.

Should probably read the FBI paperwork on that case. It's pretty sad.
legendary
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November 06, 2018, 08:45:32 PM
#35

If you are going to repeat my own words back to me thinking it makes you look smart, it doesn't. It helps if you know what they mean to begin with. I didn't "shotgun" anything, I replied to the shotgun of arguments within that opinion piece so you lazily substituted for your own arguments. Tell me, what part of your argument about the definition of what a "few" years is proves Donald Trump is racist when the government suit was settled without admission of guilt? is that your standard of evidence? He was accused? Oh right that is the new standard of the left, everyone we don't like is guilty upon accusation.

FBI FIOA from an investigation is an opinion piece. Your "counter-argument" was 'it's in the past so it doesn't count" which is a pretty shitty argument. I want a real argument instead of this meta-bullshit concern troll you're constantly doing.

When you confuse toting of a fake victory with undisputed evidence of racism. Aww yiss

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Court records showed that "four superintendents or rental agents confirmed that applications sent to the Trump organization's central office for acceptance or rejection were coded by race." A rental agent said Fred Trump had instructed him "not to rent to blacks" and to "decrease the number of black tenants" "by encouraging them to locate housing elsewhere." A consent decree between the DOJ and the TO was signed on June 10, 1975, with both sides claiming victory—the TO for its perceived ability to continue denying rentals to welfare recipients, and the head of DOJ's housing division for the decree being "one of the most far-reaching ever negotiated." It personally and corporately prohibited the Trumps from "discriminating against any person in the ... sale or rental of a dwelling," and "required Trump to advertise vacancies in minority papers, promote minorities to professional jobs, and list vacancies on a preferential basis with the Open Housing Center of the Urban League." Finally, it ordered the Trumps to "thoroughly acquaint themselves personally on a detailed basis with ... the Fair Housing Act of 1968."

Ok then, please do quote the exact statement that declares Donald Trump guilty of the accused violations within the FOIA documents. None of what you states is that, you just prefer to interpret the words that way. What you have there is some statements by people, not of the activities of D.J.T. specifically. As usual I am sure you are quite familiar with the source information, as you always are, so this should be no trouble at all for you right? Again, don't cry about it. You are making a claim, the burden of proof is on you. Quote the proof within the document.

Let me make this simple for you. If there was proof, they would have lost the lawsuit. There is no proof, because it was settled without admission of guilt. Since there is no proof, in summary what you have are accusations.
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November 06, 2018, 08:37:10 PM
#34

If you are going to repeat my own words back to me thinking it makes you look smart, it doesn't. It helps if you know what they mean to begin with. I didn't "shotgun" anything, I replied to the shotgun of arguments within that opinion piece so you lazily substituted for your own arguments. Tell me, what part of your argument about the definition of what a "few" years is proves Donald Trump is racist when the government suit was settled without admission of guilt? is that your standard of evidence? He was accused? Oh right that is the new standard of the left, everyone we don't like is guilty upon accusation.

FBI FIOA from an investigation is an opinion piece. Your "counter-argument" was 'it's in the past so it doesn't count" which is a pretty shitty argument. I want a real argument instead of this meta-bullshit concern troll you're constantly doing.

When you confuse toting of a fake victory with undisputed evidence of racism. Aww yiss

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Court records showed that "four superintendents or rental agents confirmed that applications sent to the Trump organization's central office for acceptance or rejection were coded by race." A rental agent said Fred Trump had instructed him "not to rent to blacks" and to "decrease the number of black tenants" "by encouraging them to locate housing elsewhere." A consent decree between the DOJ and the TO was signed on June 10, 1975, with both sides claiming victory—the TO for its perceived ability to continue denying rentals to welfare recipients, and the head of DOJ's housing division for the decree being "one of the most far-reaching ever negotiated." It personally and corporately prohibited the Trumps from "discriminating against any person in the ... sale or rental of a dwelling," and "required Trump to advertise vacancies in minority papers, promote minorities to professional jobs, and list vacancies on a preferential basis with the Open Housing Center of the Urban League." Finally, it ordered the Trumps to "thoroughly acquaint themselves personally on a detailed basis with ... the Fair Housing Act of 1968."
legendary
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November 06, 2018, 08:34:29 PM
#33
Roll Eyes

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

Pretty sure some of those cases highlight pretty decent arguments; do you wanna start going into each case?

Oh, looks like TECSHARE started trying to argue case by case. Funnily enough; if you dig into each of his arguments slightly, they fall apart.

Like "oh, he didn't own the company but only ran day to day operations, so he's innocent".

Shit like that is why it's so hard to argue on the internet Wink

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Fred's son Donald Trump joined Trump Management Company around 1968, and rose to become company president in 1971.


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https://vault.fbi.gov/trump-management-company

Oh hey, look at that, government doing our work for us! FOIA and public distribution, oh look at the year, after 1971.

Yes, please do go into each individually, isn't that the topic of this thread? Also I already asked you to do this, break it down in your own words. Have a debate instead of shotgunning other people's opinions at me as if they are your own and are fact.

Tell me please, what exactly about you posted argues against what I stated?

>Additionally the company was Fred Trump's, not Donald Trumps, and he was only a few years into the business at the time.

Yall need to learn to actually check into some of the random shit yall say.

Like when you say "oh, he's a newb! he wasn't around during the investigation" when the guy's acting president pre-investigation; yall gonna have a hard time arguing.

Maybe if you were trolling less, and reading more evidence, you'd not try to "shotgun" retarded defenses.

Gotta remember, the amount of evidence required to refute bullshit is greater than the bullshit claim. Fuck, it's been 2k years and people still believe in shit like the bible.

If you are going to repeat my own words back to me thinking it makes you look smart, it doesn't. It helps if you know what they mean to begin with. I didn't "shotgun" anything, I replied to the shotgun of arguments within that opinion piece so you lazily substituted for your own arguments. Tell me, what part of your argument about the definition of what a "few" years is proves Donald Trump is racist when the government suit was settled without admission of guilt? is that your standard of evidence? He was accused? Oh right that is the new standard of the left, everyone we don't like is guilty upon accusation.
full member
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November 06, 2018, 08:04:10 PM
#32
Roll Eyes

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

Pretty sure some of those cases highlight pretty decent arguments; do you wanna start going into each case?

Oh, looks like TECSHARE started trying to argue case by case. Funnily enough; if you dig into each of his arguments slightly, they fall apart.

Like "oh, he didn't own the company but only ran day to day operations, so he's innocent".

Shit like that is why it's so hard to argue on the internet Wink

==
Fred's son Donald Trump joined Trump Management Company around 1968, and rose to become company president in 1971.


---

https://vault.fbi.gov/trump-management-company

Oh hey, look at that, government doing our work for us! FOIA and public distribution, oh look at the year, after 1971.

Yes, please do go into each individually, isn't that the topic of this thread? Also I already asked you to do this, break it down in your own words. Have a debate instead of shotgunning other people's opinions at me as if they are your own and are fact.

Tell me please, what exactly about you posted argues against what I stated?

>Additionally the company was Fred Trump's, not Donald Trumps, and he was only a few years into the business at the time.

Yall need to learn to actually check into some of the random shit yall say.

Like when you say "oh, he's a newb! he wasn't around during the investigation" when the guy's acting president pre-investigation; yall gonna have a hard time arguing.

Maybe if you were trolling less, and reading more evidence, you'd not try to "shotgun" retarded defenses.

Gotta remember, the amount of evidence required to refute bullshit is greater than the bullshit claim. Fuck, it's been 2k years and people still believe in shit like the bible.
legendary
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November 06, 2018, 07:36:57 PM
#31
Apparently there are a whole lot more people who are racists.

From the hills and the mountains, from the plains and the bayous, in the millions they're coming



Voted early in very red Nye County, Nevada on Thursday, November first. Republicans so dominant here that some run unopposed for local offices, some draw challengers only from the (more conservative) Independent American Party.

To support Donald Trump, the Brunette re-registered this year for the first time in years. (Like so many, she worked tirelessly on a couple of state-level campaigns, Libertarian of course, watched as the message got watered down, “massaged” and re-packaged so as not to offend anyone. How the sausage is made.)

We encountered 20-minute lines at the polling place, which are unheard-of here, even on a Presidential election days. The precinct captain said 32 percent of the town had early-voted as of Wednesday, with two more days of early voting to go — normal early-voting turnout is 20 percent. They’re planning to set up many more machines than usual on Tuesday.

Nevada only looks “blue” because of all the Culinary Union (hotel/casino) workers — many of whom speak little English — pressured to register by their union and then bused to early-voting stations in supermarket parking lots in Las Vegas.

Up till recently those using a “green card” to get a driver’s license or alternative “DAC” at the Nevada Dept. of Motor Vehicles were routinely asked by staff whether they’d like to also register to vote. (Current Republican Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske MAY have put an end to that.) Plus all those refugees to Las Vegas/Clark County from California and Chicago who fail to leave their voting habits behind, of course.

Electronic signature check and “random” spot-checks of photo ID at the polls seem to have tightened things up a bit; a knowledgeable activist tells me the big remaining concern is that the final vote tallies from the electronic machines apparently move to the Secretary of State via the Internet, with an uncertain level of security.

The “Walking Away” by Libertarians to Trump (Not to the Paul Ryan-Mitch McConnell GOP; to TRUMP), though not universal, is real, and totally unnoticed by the pollsters, who of course still oversample Dems, “yout’s,” and land-lines, missing those of us who screen our calls and see no need to abet their manipulative schemes.


These people are basically voting for Trump, it seems. Trump's got it.


Cool
legendary
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November 05, 2018, 11:46:13 PM
#30
Mr Trumps is that racist he has give more jobs to the black community than a black guy called Obama ..

I will will show all race communities from the DEMS how silly they can be AND how easy your minds are TRICKED..

Obama said don't be scared of the Central American migrants traveling in the caravan they are only migrants they pose no threat to the USA..

Ok Obama if the migrants pose no threat do your OWN Americans pose more of a threat?..  What do you think Obama would say?..

Barack Obama 'has authority to use drone strikes to kill Americans on US soil' President Barack Obama has the authority to use an unmanned drone strike to kill US citizens on American ..

Obama decided he would give the power to drone his "OWN PEOPLES".. Go and check it out if you don't believe me google it..

Ex-Drone Pilot: Obama can give order to any Predator from his office..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVNN_Je7RgM

Obama claims US drones strikes have killed up to 116 civilians ..

The Obama administration "formally acknowledged for the first time that it had killed four American citizens in drone strikes outside the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq..

Now i wonder who OBAMA really cares for ?   I would say all Obama gives you is the word HOPE and that's it   TRUMPS gives you a job and that means a life not HOPING
for something that will never ever be < THE DEMS..

The DEMS want all those migrants in because it means more poor votes PLUS  Hollywood can ACT that they care for the POORS..

Do you rememeber bowing to the SAUDI KINGS   but he will drone your asses ..Just goes to show how easy you people are mislead..
legendary
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November 05, 2018, 10:11:37 PM
#29
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I doubt I'll be able to find any video of Trump speaking clearly and equivalently.....

It's soooo easy.

"You're fired!"


I know you're handed scripts, but you gotta remember most people don't get paid to read something off a piece of paper.
...

Why don't you just man up and admit it?

You done been Trumped.
legendary
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November 05, 2018, 09:29:49 PM
#28
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I doubt I'll be able to find any video of Trump speaking clearly and equivalently.....

It's soooo easy.

"You're fired!"

I know you're handed scripts, but you gotta remember most people don't get paid to read something off a piece of paper.

Roll Eyes

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

Pretty sure some of those cases highlight pretty decent arguments; do you wanna start going into each case?

Oh, looks like TECSHARE started trying to argue case by case. Funnily enough; if you dig into each of his arguments slightly, they fall apart.

Like "oh, he didn't own the company but only ran day to day operations, so he's innocent".

Shit like that is why it's so hard to argue on the internet Wink

==
Fred's son Donald Trump joined Trump Management Company around 1968, and rose to become company president in 1971.


---

https://vault.fbi.gov/trump-management-company

Oh hey, look at that, government doing our work for us! FOIA and public distribution, oh look at the year, after 1971.

Yes, please do go into each individually, isn't that the topic of this thread? Also I already asked you to do this, break it down in your own words. Have a debate instead of shotgunning other people's opinions at me as if they are your own and are fact.

Tell me please, what exactly about you posted argues against what I stated?
legendary
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November 05, 2018, 08:26:52 PM
#27
....in 1971....after 1971....

Excuse me I didn't bother with your click bait.

What's 1971 going to tell us about anything relevant today?
full member
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November 05, 2018, 05:54:47 PM
#26
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I doubt I'll be able to find any video of Trump speaking clearly and equivalently.....

It's soooo easy.

"You're fired!"

I know you're handed scripts, but you gotta remember most people don't get paid to read something off a piece of paper.

Roll Eyes

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

Pretty sure some of those cases highlight pretty decent arguments; do you wanna start going into each case?

Oh, looks like TECSHARE started trying to argue case by case. Funnily enough; if you dig into each of his arguments slightly, they fall apart.

Like "oh, he didn't own the company but only ran day to day operations, so he's innocent".

Shit like that is why it's so hard to argue on the internet Wink

==
Fred's son Donald Trump joined Trump Management Company around 1968, and rose to become company president in 1971.


---

https://vault.fbi.gov/trump-management-company

Oh hey, look at that, government doing our work for us! FOIA and public distribution, oh look at the year, after 1971.
legendary
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November 05, 2018, 05:53:31 PM
#25
retarded troll comment being troll

Counter troll; http://bfy.tw/Ki5J
I know, those trolls always demanding sources. You made the claim, stop acting like I am being unreasonable asking you to source it. It is irrelevant anyway, there is nothing even racist in that statement. Try again.

Pure verbal diarrhea source is pretty easy to find. I'm amazed that with the power of the entire internet, you failed at finding the source of that quote. I know google is hard to used in a 3rd world censored nation, but there's easy ways to bypass their censors.


Try again troll.

Oh, check out this source; https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

Just click the highlighted blue links on each of those events, and study them out buddy.

It doesn't matter how easy it is to find. You are making an argument. You have the burden of proof. You are required to provide sources. You don't get to shit out stuff and demand people look it up for you. That is not how logic works. That is the peak of intellectual laziness and demonstrates your familiarity with the source material because you can't even link it (little to none).


Again, still nothing in your first quote was racist, so the entire post was pointless beginning to end.

Now, a New York Times opinion piece! There are bound to be lots of facts there right? All kinds of specific facts which you mysteriously again can not specify, because you like to claim authority but never even actually review any of this material yourself. Its ok little boy, I will do the reading for you since you are having such difficulty.

1. A country/nation is not the same thing as a race. Just because it hurt some ones feelings doesn't make it racist, nor was the statement addressed to the public.

2. "The Trumps admitted no wrongdoing and were prohibited from “discriminating against any person in the terms, conditions, or privileges of sale or rental of a dwelling.” They were also required to take out advertisements notifying minority individuals that they had an equal opportunity to seek housing at Trump properties." Their settlement (no admission of guilt) was to notify minorities of available housing.  Additionally the company was Fred Trump's, not Donald Trumps, and he was only a few years into the business at the time. I suppose he was working extra long hours to make sure everyone was fully discriminated against right? So, in short, nothing proven, no admission of guilt. Just pure speculation.

3. "according to multiple sources" hey, they are starting to sound like you! In this case there is one source. One, former disgruntled employee that was fired.

4. If you actually bother to read the statement (I know you never do) you will see it is generalized call for stronger law enforcement and penalties for crimes. Nothing in that statement is racist, nor do I see anything in there where he demands the execution of the accused.

5. He says well educated black people have an advantage. Man, what more proof do you need he is Hitler?

6. Another selectively cropped quote making claims he said things he never said. Here is what he really said:

"The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems. … When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."  ≠ all Mexicans are rapists

Anyways... I am not going any further down this increasingly insane list, and you are too lazy to even pick a premise to support so I am not going to refute entire articles you shotgun at me. You want to debate, debate. Any retard can source other people's work, well except you apparently...

Try picking a point and lets debate it. You are quite confident in your conclusions. I am sure it should not be hard to pick a complaint you can back knowing the source material as you do right?
legendary
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November 05, 2018, 05:52:08 PM
#24
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I doubt I'll be able to find any video of Trump speaking clearly and equivalently.....

It's soooo easy.

"You're fired!"
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