Donald Trump signed a new immigration Ordinance

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To a claim against the anti-immigrant decree of the President of Trump except Hawaii joined the States of Washington, new York, Oregon and Massachusetts. The new Ordinance may not take effect.

You are ill-informed about the American legal system. A few states can't block an ordinance. Doing so requires a majority in the house or in the senate (which the Democrats doesn't have). Else, the ordinance can be suspended by the courts, but that is not going to happen this time.

Why do you think so? Any law which provokes racial or religious hatred may be suspended in court. I think it will be this time. Discrimination on religious grounds 100% against the Constitution of America or any other democratic state.

How can you claim that the travel ban is a form of racial and religious hatred? If he was banning every Muslim from a particular country, then you could have said that. But the travel ban is applicable to every single citizen from these nations.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 11, 2017, 12:09:29 PM

Quote from: Lancusters on March 10, 2017, 05:15:30 AM

To a claim against the anti-immigrant decree of the President of Trump except Hawaii joined the States of Washington, new York, Oregon and Massachusetts. The new Ordinance may not take effect.

You are ill-informed about the American legal system. A few states can't block an ordinance. Doing so requires a majority in the house or in the senate (which the Democrats doesn't have). Else, the ordinance can be suspended by the courts, but that is not going to happen this time.

Why do you think so? Any law which provokes racial or religious hatred may be suspended in court. I think it will be this time. Discrimination on religious grounds 100% against the Constitution of America or any other democratic state.

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Quote from: Lancusters on March 10, 2017, 05:15:30 AM

To a claim against the anti-immigrant decree of the President of Trump except Hawaii joined the States of Washington, new York, Oregon and Massachusetts. The new Ordinance may not take effect.

You are ill-informed about the American legal system. A few states can't block an ordinance. Doing so requires a majority in the house or in the senate (which the Democrats doesn't have). Else, the ordinance can be suspended by the courts, but that is not going to happen this time.

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i think this decret is better than the old...

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To a claim against the anti-immigrant decree of the President of Trump except Hawaii joined the States of Washington, new York, Oregon and Massachusetts. The new Ordinance may not take effect.

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Quote from: Spendulus on March 09, 2017, 08:56:36 AM

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Hawali just sued to stop this order again.. it's probably going to get blocked again by the courts soon

How long the courts are going to block such measures? The SCOTUS will become majority conservative within a short period of time, as the hardcore liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to die soon as a result of cancer.

If the document is properly written and has been reviewed by the legal staff, there should be no problem.

Not sure about that. Liberals are very good in finding silly excuses. Even if the proposition is nicely written and compatible with the constitution, they will find a way to block it. The suspension may get overturned in the higher courts, but in due process valuable time will be lost.

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Quote from: Spendulus on March 09, 2017, 08:56:36 AM

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Hawali just sued to stop this order again.. it's probably going to get blocked again by the courts soon

How long the courts are going to block such measures? The SCOTUS will become majority conservative within a short period of time, as the hardcore liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to die soon as a result of cancer.

If the document is properly written and has been reviewed by the legal staff, there should be no problem.

The state of Hawaii filed a lawsuit against US President Donald trump to overturn a new ban on the entry of nationals of the six countries in America. This is the first state that was going to sue over new migration decree.
The essence of the lawsuit, which was filed by the state in a Federal court in Hawaii that this ban could hurt the entire Muslim population of the state. Besides, it will decrease the number of tourists and students from abroad.
"Hawaii is a very special state, because throughout its history, it was designed to avoid discrimination", - commented on the lawsuit the attorney General Doug Chin.
"Twenty percent of our population were born overseas, with 100 thousand of our inhabitants do not have citizenship of the United States, 20% of the workforce are people from other countries," said Chin.
This claim will be discussed on 15 March, the day before the new decree trump will enter into force.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 09, 2017, 01:19:03 AM

Quote from: fundyourself on March 08, 2017, 05:06:59 AM

Hawali just sued to stop this order again.. it's probably going to get blocked again by the courts soon

How long the courts are going to block such measures? The SCOTUS will become majority conservative within a short period of time, as the hardcore liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to die soon as a result of cancer.

If the document is properly written and has been reviewed by the legal staff, there should be no problem.

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Our president might look like an idiot but this move on Iraq is made as an economical decision and not a political one or maybe both. He wants to get cheap oil and Iraq has a lot of that. In order to re establish good relations with Iraq after president Bush massively destroyed it in the war of 2003 Trump is starting to be easier on Iraq. I don't like Trump as president but I want to congratulate him on such move, it is beneficial to us the US citizens.

Once again, I see a complete contradiction in actions Trump. I remember he said that under him America will increase the sale of oil on the world market. Why do Americans to reduce the price of the goods which they sell?

Perhaps rebuilding the military (in keeping with his stated objectives) is a higher priority than the price of oil. Why piss off the enlisted men and women when a manpower shortage is one of the stumbling blocks to rebuilding the military. As of 2006, about 1,500 visa requests had been made by U.S. military personnel for Iraqi spouses and fiancées. Maybe Trump has a heart.

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Quote from: adidas on March 09, 2017, 03:26:57 AM

Our president might look like an idiot but this move on Iraq is made as an economical decision and not a political one or maybe both. He wants to get cheap oil and Iraq has a lot of that. In order to re establish good relations with Iraq after president Bush massively destroyed it in the war of 2003 Trump is starting to be easier on Iraq. I don't like Trump as president but I want to congratulate him on such move, it is beneficial to us the US citizens.

Once again, I see a complete contradiction in actions Trump. I remember he said that under him America will increase the sale of oil on the world market. Why do Americans to reduce the price of the goods which they sell?

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Our president might look like an idiot but this move on Iraq is made as an economical decision and not a political one or maybe both. He wants to get cheap oil and Iraq has a lot of that. In order to re establish good relations with Iraq after president Bush massively destroyed it in the war of 2003 Trump is starting to be easier on Iraq. I don't like Trump as president but I want to congratulate him on such move, it is beneficial to us the US citizens.

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Quote from: fundyourself on March 08, 2017, 05:06:59 AM

Hawali just sued to stop this order again.. it's probably going to get blocked again by the courts soon

How long the courts are going to block such measures? The SCOTUS will become majority conservative within a short period of time, as the hardcore liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to die soon as a result of cancer.

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Iraq was excluded from the blacklist because the government has introduced additional verification procedures at the border crossing. In addition, improved data exchange between Iraq and the United States. These measures will prevent the infiltration of militants "Islamic state" on American soil.
The Ministry of foreign Affairs of Iraq had responded positively to the decision.

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Monday, March 6, the President of the United States Donald trump signed a new immigration Ordinance. The text of the decree trump was published by the press service of the White house.
According to the document, in the United States for 90 days to ban people 6 countries: Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. However, the effect of a decree would not apply to those individuals who already have current us visa or residence permits.
Note that in comparison with the previous decree, from a list of Muslim countries expelled Iraq.How long will the effect of this decree?

This is a surprise and I am puzzled on the amendments on the plan. This new ordinance was much less tighter than the previous issuance. But it delivers a good news to all residents coming from the banned countries that has already a resident permit. Further, expelling Iraq from the list is a big question. It brought many speculations and many are already discussing and talking about it.

Iraq has already stated that this is a positive sign, but other Arab countries will seek their removal from the list of sanctions and Iraq to help them in this. I think that Trump will not be able long to keep such a ban.

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Quote from: Casanova18 on March 06, 2017, 01:31:18 PM

Monday, March 6, the President of the United States Donald trump signed a new immigration Ordinance. The text of the decree trump was published by the press service of the White house.
According to the document, in the United States for 90 days to ban people 6 countries: Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. However, the effect of a decree would not apply to those individuals who already have current us visa or residence permits.
Note that in comparison with the previous decree, from a list of Muslim countries expelled Iraq.How long will the effect of this decree?

This is a surprise and I am puzzled on the amendments on the plan. This new ordinance was much less tighter than the previous issuance. But it delivers a good news to all residents coming from the banned countries that has already a resident permit. Further, expelling Iraq from the list is a big question. It brought many speculations and many are already discussing and talking about it.

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Monday, March 6, the President of the United States Donald trump signed a new immigration Ordinance. The text of the decree trump was published by the press service of the White house.
According to the document, in the United States for 90 days to ban people 6 countries: Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. However, the effect of a decree would not apply to those individuals who already have current us visa or residence permits.
Note that in comparison with the previous decree, from a list of Muslim countries expelled Iraq.How long will the effect of this decree?

It says 90 days - that's about 13 weeks south of the Mason-Dixon line and closer to 12.9 weeks above it where the people tend to be slightly more liberal.

In the first decree was 120 days. It's already easier. I wonder why you disappeared from the list of Iraq? Maybe Trump is preparing an invasion of Iran? There are many signs of this. Cancel the lifting of sanctions against Iran, Russian arming Iran, now Iraq disappears from the list. Maybe Trump has decided to raise its credibility over the war?

Most likely this is a political decision on Iraq. Trump looks like an idiot, but he's a very clever and cunning dude. And there are peers who will not advise the bad.

I do not see any intelligent decrees and action from Trump. Maybe he and advisers are the same? To combat migrants bans will not work. Maybe it would be easier to create the opportunity available and want America for foreigners online? Having in their country the opportunity to earn 500 dollars a month the migrants went to America. How do you like this method of dealing with illegal immigration?

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Hawali just sued to stop this order again.. it's probably going to get blocked again by the courts soon

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It's a strategy by the time the courts process it most of the time period passes.
Then he can just sign another one in.
All while keeping the masses distracted Wink

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Quote from: Maximilian_333 on March 06, 2017, 01:56:16 PM

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Quote from: Casanova18 on March 06, 2017, 01:31:18 PM

Monday, March 6, the President of the United States Donald trump signed a new immigration Ordinance. The text of the decree trump was published by the press service of the White house.
According to the document, in the United States for 90 days to ban people 6 countries: Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. However, the effect of a decree would not apply to those individuals who already have current us visa or residence permits.
Note that in comparison with the previous decree, from a list of Muslim countries expelled Iraq.How long will the effect of this decree?

It says 90 days - that's about 13 weeks south of the Mason-Dixon line and closer to 12.9 weeks above it where the people tend to be slightly more liberal.

In the first decree was 120 days. It's already easier. I wonder why you disappeared from the list of Iraq? Maybe Trump is preparing an invasion of Iran? There are many signs of this. Cancel the lifting of sanctions against Iran, Russian arming Iran, now Iraq disappears from the list. Maybe Trump has decided to raise its credibility over the war?

Most likely this is a political decision on Iraq. Trump looks like an idiot, but he's a very clever and cunning dude. And there are peers who will not advise the bad.

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Quote from: xhomerx10 on March 06, 2017, 01:46:23 PM

Quote from: Casanova18 on March 06, 2017, 01:31:18 PM

Monday, March 6, the President of the United States Donald trump signed a new immigration Ordinance. The text of the decree trump was published by the press service of the White house.
According to the document, in the United States for 90 days to ban people 6 countries: Sudan, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. However, the effect of a decree would not apply to those individuals who already have current us visa or residence permits.
Note that in comparison with the previous decree, from a list of Muslim countries expelled Iraq.How long will the effect of this decree?

It says 90 days - that's about 13 weeks south of the Mason-Dixon line and closer to 12.9 weeks above it where the people tend to be slightly more liberal.

In the first decree was 120 days. It's already easier. I wonder why you disappeared from the list of Iraq? Maybe Trump is preparing an invasion of Iran? There are many signs of this. Cancel the lifting of sanctions against Iran, Russian arming Iran, now Iraq disappears from the list. Maybe Trump has decided to raise its credibility over the war?

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