Topic: Donating to the Freenet Project [Now Accepting] (Read 3144 times)
Old topic, fortunately still relevant. Donations are dripping in, and project is moving on. Personally, I find it extremely interesting as a concept, even though I can't find use for it.
Toad, the Freenet paid developer, has posted regarding bitcoin donations to his flog: http://amphibian.dyndns.org/flogmirror/
(Freenet link) http://127.0.0.1:8888/USK@yGvITGZzrY1vUZK-4AaYLgcjZ7ysRqNTMfdcO8gS-LY,-ab5bJVD3Lp-LXEQqBAhJpMKrKJ19RnNaZMIkusU79s,AQACAAE/toad/35/
(Freenet link) http://127.0.0.1:8888/USK@yGvITGZzrY1vUZK-4AaYLgcjZ7ysRqNTMfdcO8gS-LY,-ab5bJVD3Lp-LXEQqBAhJpMKrKJ19RnNaZMIkusU79s,AQACAAE/toad/35/
Freenet accepting donations!
Sent coins to address!
Sent coins to address!
I have pledged to donate 200 BTC once the freenet project decides to take donations. 
The problem with Freenet is that a) it's written in Java b) it's super fucking slow.
Otherwise I'd love the idea in practice
Otherwise I'd love the idea in practice
Java is not causing the slowness.
The slowness is mostly the price for anonymity, how ever there IS a room for improvement (in last months it is working x3 slower then it could sometimes).
Still, it works good enough in example for discussion (FMS, Freetalk, well and Frost) and for not too huge files, or even huge files like 700 mb files (if you start downloading while it's "hot", it should finish in few days up to a week... sorry ADHD users
Join FMS and setup a Bitcoin forum! 
There already is one and there's been discussion about bitcoin in it in the past. One of the freenet developers (Toad) said he'd be willing to accept bitcoin donations privately on behalf of the project if the value was greater than $100 USD and people can contact him directly about it.
I am not using gmail either, but AFAIK gmail accounts come with free IMAP, so you don't have to use their web stuff.
I've had files stay for ~3 months without being accessed.
If you are really paranoid just setup a cron that polls your USK or CHK every so often. Also, you'll likely refresh/change the backup within 3 months anyway.
If you are really paranoid just setup a cron that polls your USK or CHK every so often. Also, you'll likely refresh/change the backup within 3 months anyway.
BTW, is storing a file on FreeNet reliable ? I mean, as I understand it, FreeNet is P2P. This means that a file is there only if people use it. If I am the only one who need a file, isn't it likely to disappear from the network if I don't consult it regulary ?
It might stay for a week or two (unpredictable). It's certainly not a good destination for backup.
They are working on two of the main issues with persistence:
First, things aren’t getting routed to the right spot, so they are hard to find; the new load management code should relieve much of the issue as nodes that _should_ have the data will be much less likely to be 'backed-off', an overloaded state, and reject the insert.
Secondly, there is an ongoing work to spread the word of freenet, the more people who run nodes, the more places there is to store data
Still, I doubt FreeNet is suitable for backup.
I wonder if online mail provider, such as Gmail, is not a good idea for that. I don't like webmails. I think this concept is silly, but it exists and it provides almost unlimited amount of storage. It's also easy to access, for all you have to do is to send an email and attach your encrypted wallet. Of course, it should not be the only backup solution, since at any time Google could destroy your data. But still, it can be added as a complementary solution. The more backup copies you have in different places, the better.
I don't have any Gmail account right now, but I seriously consider creating one just for this purpose.
BTW, is storing a file on FreeNet reliable ? I mean, as I understand it, FreeNet is P2P. This means that a file is there only if people use it. If I am the only one who need a file, isn't it likely to disappear from the network if I don't consult it regulary ?
It might stay for a week or two (unpredictable). It's certainly not a good destination for backup.
They are working on two of the main issues with persistence:
First, things aren’t getting routed to the right spot, so they are hard to find; the new load management code should relieve much of the issue as nodes that _should_ have the data will be much less likely to be 'backed-off', an overloaded state, and reject the insert.
Secondly, there is an ongoing work to spread the word of freenet, the more people who run nodes, the more places there is to store data
BTW, is storing a file on FreeNet reliable ? I mean, as I understand it, FreeNet is P2P. This means that a file is there only if people use it. If I am the only one who need a file, isn't it likely to disappear from the network if I don't consult it regulary ?
It might stay for a week or two (unpredictable). It's certainly not a good destination for backup.
A CHK is the main type of Freenet URI. The file is already encrypted on the network, and the key is in the CHK, so if you keep the CHK secret the wallet can't be recovered.
Oh, ok.
BTW, is storing a file on FreeNet reliable ? I mean, as I understand it, FreeNet is P2P. This means that a file is there only if people use it. If I am the only one who need a file, isn't it likely to disappear from the network if I don't consult it regulary ?
CHK ?
A CHK is the main type of Freenet URI. The file is already encrypted on the network, and the key is in the CHK, so if you keep the CHK secret the wallet can't be recovered.
Encryption isn't necessary if you keep the CHK secret.
CHK ?
Upload a backup of your wallet.dat (encrypt it first).
Encryption isn't necessary if you keep the CHK secret.
Sure!
Upload a backup of your wallet.dat (encrypt it first).
Join FMS and setup a Bitcoin forum!
Upload a backup of your wallet.dat (encrypt it first).
Join FMS and setup a Bitcoin forum!
all sent, I guess now we play the waiting game.
DUDE! I just re-tried it again and you're right!! It runs fine now compared to a few months ago when I test it
Maybe we should make a Bitcoin community there. I might try to use this as much as possible.
Maybe we should make a Bitcoin community there. I might try to use this as much as possible.
No rush for that right now. But eventually when the governments will begin to be aware of bitcoin, Freenet will be an appropriate place for this site.
The problem with Freenet is that a) it's written in Java b) it's super fucking slow.
Otherwise I'd love the idea in practice
Otherwise I'd love the idea in practice
Not to defend what Freenet was/is, (super fucking slow). The project has come a long, long way since even 2 months ago. The new load balancing code is in the process of being merged, this should make a world of difference to the speed of Freenet: read the "Load management and other things" post by Toad at http://amphibian.dyndns.org/flogmirror/ for more info.
Secondly I don't hold java to be as bad as it used to be, the main feature of it is the de-facto cross-platform compatibility, and high speed prototyping... On either note, I think that Freenet has a bright future.
amended, thankyou noagendamarket!
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