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June 13, 2012, 01:01:56 AM
#21
I've already donated to Zimmerman but I'd be happy to donate more

Just PM me with how much you want to donate and we can make a deal. This allows me to buy more btc anyway. I can send you a copy of my reciept etc after I make the paypal donation.
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June 13, 2012, 12:50:26 AM
#20
So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?


You sir, are a saint who will receive the highest reward in Aryan Heaven

That's a pretty massive misunderstanding of what happened.  Zimmerman was trying to get the police there to handle the situation, you don't call the police right before you "stalk and murder" someone.  Like it or not, the truth is Martin attacked him and Zimmerman defended himself from having his head slammed into the concrete.

The problem here is with the law, it should not be legal for private citizens to carry firearms like that.  A tazer or pepper spray is a perfectly reasonable form of self defense, they should leave the guns out of the equation and then this never would have happened.  Here in England the police don't even need to carry guns and they still manage to do their jobs.

911 operator:

"Are you following him?"

Zimmerman:

"Yeah."

911 Operator:

"OK, we don't need you to do that."

He was told not to pursue him thus he should be charged with and convicted of Murder.

You missed the part where Zimmerman replies "OK" and stops following him, so I'm glad you won't be on the jury.
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June 13, 2012, 12:40:21 AM
#19
Let the court decide whether or not the he's guilty. Everything else is just mad and wild speculation.
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June 13, 2012, 12:21:51 AM
#18
So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?


You sir, are a saint who will receive the highest reward in Aryan Heaven

That's a pretty massive misunderstanding of what happened.  Zimmerman was trying to get the police there to handle the situation, you don't call the police right before you "stalk and murder" someone.  Like it or not, the truth is Martin attacked him and Zimmerman defended himself from having his head slammed into the concrete.

The problem here is with the law, it should not be legal for private citizens to carry firearms like that.  A tazer or pepper spray is a perfectly reasonable form of self defense, they should leave the guns out of the equation and then this never would have happened.  Here in England the police don't even need to carry guns and they still manage to do their jobs.

911 operator:

"Are you following him?"

Zimmerman:

"Yeah."

911 Operator:

"OK, we don't need you to do that."

He was told not to pursue him thus he should be charged with and convicted of Murder.
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June 13, 2012, 12:14:15 AM
#17
What is clear from the call is that he is scared Martin might be planning to rob houses, was on drugs (he was right), and was approaching his car with something in his hands (Zimemrman clearly thought he was armed.)

Zimmerman was afraid of Martin, the only reason he followed after him to guide the police was the false sense of security brought on by having a firearm in his possession.  When the 9/11 operator tells him he doesn't have to follow, he says okay, and it is clear he has stopped running as he continues to talk without sounds of footsteps or heavy breathing and he makes it clear he doesn't even see Martin anymore, which is an obvious sign he wasn't following him at the time.
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June 13, 2012, 12:08:25 AM
#16
I will not continue posting here, it makes me angry and this is not a chat. Is a Bitcoin forum and is the only thing I want to read here
I never should have started
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June 13, 2012, 12:04:11 AM
#15
So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?


You sir, are a saint who will receive the highest reward in Aryan Heaven

That's a pretty massive misunderstanding of what happened.  Zimmerman was trying to get the police there to handle the situation, you don't call the police right before you "stalk and murder" someone.  Like it or not, the truth is Martin attacked him and Zimmerman defended himself from having his head slammed into the concrete.

The problem here is with the law, it should not be legal for private citizens to carry firearms like that.  A tazer or pepper spray is a perfectly reasonable form of self defense, they should leave the guns out of the equation and then this never would have happened.  Here in England the police don't even need to carry guns and they still manage to do their jobs.


If you're walking down the street at night and this guy begins to haunt you without any reason, and possibly showing a gun, of course you defend, Trayvon acted in self defense and was killed ...

That isn't what happened.  Zimmerman was walking away and Martin approached him from behind before violently breaking his nose and slamming his head into the concrete multiple times while Zimmerman screamed.  

Even if your version was true, I disagree that "of course" you should fight in that situation.  Do you know what happens when you bring your fists to a gun fight?

Well, it worked out for Martin like that usually will.  It's a much better bet to run away, hide, and call the police.  If Martin was thinking more clearly (Read:  Not on a dangerous, mind altering illegal drug at the time) he probably would have realized attacking Zimmerman was not a good idea.  Drugs and guns caused this tragedy, and it's just another example of why people should not be allowed to have access to them.


Transcript of 911 call

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

Clearly says that Trayvon ran away and he was chasing ...

You can hear him stop running before he hangs up.  He was walking back to meet the police.

What happens when the call ends is not clear, what is clear is that from the beginning the only one with an attitude threatening and harassing and clear position of superiority is Zimmerman
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June 12, 2012, 11:45:02 PM
#14
So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?


You sir, are a saint who will receive the highest reward in Aryan Heaven

That's a pretty massive misunderstanding of what happened.  Zimmerman was trying to get the police there to handle the situation, you don't call the police right before you "stalk and murder" someone.  Like it or not, the truth is Martin attacked him and Zimmerman defended himself from having his head slammed into the concrete.

The problem here is with the law, it should not be legal for private citizens to carry firearms like that.  A tazer or pepper spray is a perfectly reasonable form of self defense, they should leave the guns out of the equation and then this never would have happened.  Here in England the police don't even need to carry guns and they still manage to do their jobs.


If you're walking down the street at night and this guy begins to haunt you without any reason, and possibly showing a gun, of course you defend, Trayvon acted in self defense and was killed ...

That isn't what happened.  Zimmerman was walking away and Martin approached him from behind before violently breaking his nose and slamming his head into the concrete multiple times while Zimmerman screamed.  

Even if your version was true, I disagree that "of course" you should fight in that situation.  Do you know what happens when you bring your fists to a gun fight?

Well, it worked out for Martin like that usually will.  It's a much better bet to run away, hide, and call the police.  If Martin was thinking more clearly (Read:  Not on a dangerous, mind altering illegal drug at the time) he probably would have realized attacking Zimmerman was not a good idea.  Drugs and guns caused this tragedy, and it's just another example of why people should not be allowed to have access to them.


Transcript of 911 call

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

Clearly says that Trayvon ran away and he was chasing ...

You can hear him stop running before he hangs up.  He was walking back to meet the police.
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June 12, 2012, 11:34:29 PM
#13
So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?


You sir, are a saint who will receive the highest reward in Aryan Heaven

That's a pretty massive misunderstanding of what happened.  Zimmerman was trying to get the police there to handle the situation, you don't call the police right before you "stalk and murder" someone.  Like it or not, the truth is Martin attacked him and Zimmerman defended himself from having his head slammed into the concrete.

The problem here is with the law, it should not be legal for private citizens to carry firearms like that.  A tazer or pepper spray is a perfectly reasonable form of self defense, they should leave the guns out of the equation and then this never would have happened.  Here in England the police don't even need to carry guns and they still manage to do their jobs.


If you're walking down the street at night and this guy begins to haunt you without any reason, and possibly showing a gun, of course you defend, Trayvon acted in self defense and was killed ...

That isn't what happened.  Zimmerman was walking away and Martin approached him from behind before violently breaking his nose and slamming his head into the concrete multiple times while Zimmerman screamed.  

Even if your version was true, I disagree that "of course" you should fight in that situation.  Do you know what happens when you bring your fists to a gun fight?

Well, it worked out for Martin like that usually will.  It's a much better bet to run away, hide, and call the police.  If Martin was thinking more clearly (Read:  Not on a dangerous, mind altering illegal drug at the time) he probably would have realized attacking Zimmerman was not a good idea.  Drugs and guns caused this tragedy, and it's just another example of why people should not be allowed to have access to them.


Transcript of 911 call

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

Clearly says that Trayvon ran away and he was chasing ...

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If Martin was thinking more clearly (Read:  Not on a dangerous, mind altering illegal drug at the time) he probably would have realized attacking Zimmerman was not a good idea.  Drugs and guns caused this tragedy, and it's just another example of why people should not be allowed to have access to them.
Now if you go with a few drinks and ends with a shot in the chest just to deal with an aggressor, is your fault for drinking? No sir, no alcohol or  guns, is a man who shoots and kills him.
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June 12, 2012, 11:32:45 PM
#12
You could nominate it for the Bitcoin100. It would most assuredly be rejected though.

Drugs and guns caused this tragedy, and it's just another example of why people should not be allowed to have access to them.

The distorted values and aberrant behavior caused by a sick society built on the foundations of a false authority and imaginary economy allow these episodes to occur.
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June 12, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
#11
Drugs and guns caused this tragedy, and it's just another example of why people should not be allowed to have access to them.
People will find reasons to kill each other whether drugs and guns are available or not.
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June 12, 2012, 11:19:33 PM
#10
So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?


You sir, are a saint who will receive the highest reward in Aryan Heaven

That's a pretty massive misunderstanding of what happened.  Zimmerman was trying to get the police there to handle the situation, you don't call the police right before you "stalk and murder" someone.  Like it or not, the truth is Martin attacked him and Zimmerman defended himself from having his head slammed into the concrete.

The problem here is with the law, it should not be legal for private citizens to carry firearms like that.  A tazer or pepper spray is a perfectly reasonable form of self defense, they should leave the guns out of the equation and then this never would have happened.  Here in England the police don't even need to carry guns and they still manage to do their jobs.


If you're walking down the street at night and this guy begins to haunt you without any reason, and possibly showing a gun, of course you defend, Trayvon acted in self defense and was killed ...

That isn't what happened.  Zimmerman was walking away and Martin approached him from behind before violently breaking his nose and slamming his head into the concrete multiple times while Zimmerman screamed.  

Even if your version was true, I disagree that "of course" you should fight in that situation.  Do you know what happens when you bring your fists to a gun fight?

Well, it worked out for Martin like that usually will.  It's a much better bet to run away, hide, and call the police.  If Martin was thinking more clearly (Read:  Not on a dangerous, mind altering illegal drug at the time) he probably would have realized attacking Zimmerman was not a good idea.  Drugs and guns caused this tragedy, and it's just another example of why people should not be allowed to have access to them.
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June 12, 2012, 11:15:20 PM
#9
If you're walking down the street at night and this guy begins to haunt you without any reason, and possibly showing a gun, of course you defend, Trayvon acted in self defense and was killed ...

Glad this worked for you. I'll definitely think about buying this after I donate to GZ.

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June 12, 2012, 11:09:30 PM
#8
So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?


You sir, are a saint who will receive the highest reward in Aryan Heaven

That's a pretty massive misunderstanding of what happened.  Zimmerman was trying to get the police there to handle the situation, you don't call the police right before you "stalk and murder" someone.  Like it or not, the truth is Martin attacked him and Zimmerman defended himself from having his head slammed into the concrete.

The problem here is with the law, it should not be legal for private citizens to carry firearms like that.  A tazer or pepper spray is a perfectly reasonable form of self defense, they should leave the guns out of the equation and then this never would have happened.  Here in England the police don't even need to carry guns and they still manage to do their jobs.


If you're walking down the street at night and this guy begins to haunt you without any reason, and possibly showing a gun, of course you defend, Trayvon acted in self defense and was killed ...
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June 12, 2012, 11:06:18 PM
#7
Might not be the best idea given that the Zimmermans lied in court about how much was in the PayPal fund in order to get his bond reduced.  Bitcoin could do without being thought of as the means by which Zimmerman was able to flee the country.
Wife lied, GZ was not in a position to know. Fleeing the country, convicted of a pre-crime, brilliant. So Bitcoin would enable criminality, but Cash or Paypal won't.  Roll Eyes


So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?
He did not lie about money at all, his wife did. You've convicted already, brilliant! I know 16 year olds with more bodies than most war veterans. Yes I want to give him money, the state has unlimited resources and being poor limits your ability to a good defense.
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June 12, 2012, 11:02:50 PM
#6
So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?


You sir, are a saint who will receive the highest reward in Aryan Heaven

That's a pretty massive misunderstanding of what happened.  Zimmerman was trying to get the police there to handle the situation, you don't call the police right before you "stalk and murder" someone.  Like it or not, the truth is Martin attacked him and Zimmerman defended himself from having his head slammed into the concrete.

The problem here is with the law, it should not be legal for private citizens to carry firearms like that.  A tazer or pepper spray is a perfectly reasonable form of self defense, they should leave the guns out of the equation and then this never would have happened.  Here in England the police don't even need to carry guns and they still manage to do their jobs.
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June 12, 2012, 10:48:29 PM
#5
I'll pass, thanks.
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June 12, 2012, 10:29:40 PM
#4
So the guy is caught on record committing perjury, stalked and murdered a child, and even if he was innocent of everything is too dumb to not make himself look guilty as fuck (he is), and you still want to give him money?


You sir, are a saint who will receive the highest reward in Aryan Heaven
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June 12, 2012, 10:26:24 PM
#3
Might not be the best idea given that the Zimmermans lied in court about how much was in the PayPal fund in order to get his bond reduced.  Bitcoin could do without being thought of as the means by which Zimmerman was able to flee the country.
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June 12, 2012, 10:18:37 PM
#2
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