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Topic: Donation page 50 Bitcoins??? (Read 2318 times)

newbie
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October 09, 2014, 03:42:16 AM
#24
the rate was much lower back then.

so it's not relevant in my opinion
global moderator
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October 08, 2014, 09:51:14 AM
#23
Yeah, it's easy for people to say now in retrospect that those people are foolish or whatever, but they donated to something they felt needed the money at the time and for a service they probably valued. I'm sure many now regret that decision, but some will not and still be glad to be a part of this forum in some way or another. Regardless of that, most of those donators still probably have more coins than all the naysayers put together so they might not be all that angry about the fiddy coins  Cheesy.
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donator
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Shitcoin Minimalist
October 08, 2014, 09:36:42 AM
#22
that entire list of donors are morons. lost so much money to look cool on the internet in front of geeks? could of bought a fancy car with 50BTC and picked up a pack of girls at your local university. idiots. but... to be fair a lot of those donations came in when BTC was well below $100.
Ah, the heartwarming gratitude of later generations. Roll Eyes

Laszlo, who bought a couple pizzas for 10.000 BTC, an idiot.
Donators and VIPs who funded this forum in times of financial need, morons.
Miners who made the network strong with their time and investments, lunatics.

Thank you so much for the kind words Wink
legendary
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1514
October 08, 2014, 09:17:36 AM
#21
oldest price I could find on bitcoincharts [3] is from 2011-09-13 ~5 USD per BTC. The donations come from a time when BTC wasnt worth as much. It was discussed often if the amount to donate for VIP should be lowered, but theymos and others in charge think it would not be fair to those that donated 50 BTC in the past. I also think its a good idea that VIP essentials says: I have been here a long time and I believed in it. If the amount to donated would be lowered to e.g. 0.4 BTC (~ equivalent in USD to 50 BTC 2011) we'd see way to many VIPs.

With the price of a single bitcoin increasing every year, I think there should be a third category for people who donate a lesser amount, e.g. 1 BTC. Or perhaps different tiers such as bronze donator: 0.01 BTC, silver: 0.1 BTC, gold: 1 BTC, and platinum: 10 BTC. Existing donators would be given platinum status and VIPs would remain as VIPs.


It's not fair for the people who donated earlier for this to happen.
DFS
newbie
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October 08, 2014, 02:56:05 AM
#20
Donations were for people who were early adopters to Bitcoin and would usually have a lot of Bitcoins in their wallets to be able to donate.
full member
Activity: 191
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October 04, 2014, 11:17:19 PM
#19
At the rate bitcoin is going down, you'll all be able to donate again shortly!  Roll Eyes
HAHA very funny. Hopefully the price of bitcoin will not fall that low, although if it does it would make for quite the buy.

Also if the price of bitcoin did get that low the forum would likely be more pressed for donations as the value of it's existing bitcoin will be lower but it's expenses will be priced at a constant amount in fiat.
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legendary
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October 04, 2014, 10:51:41 PM
#18
At the rate bitcoin is going down, you'll all be able to donate again shortly!  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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July 20, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
#17
Really, from a business perspective, it makes no sense for them to keep the price that high, because nobody is donating now. Why are they not just scaling it to dollar value?
the forum is able to make enough money off of ad sales so they really do not need donations anymore
legendary
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Keep it real
July 20, 2014, 11:04:11 AM
#16
Really, from a business perspective, it makes no sense for them to keep the price that high, because nobody is donating now. Why are they not just scaling it to dollar value?

Because when donations were introduced it was said that the price would be pegged to BTC not $.  Anyways, it's not like the forum needs more money.
member
Activity: 239
Merit: 10
July 20, 2014, 09:40:36 AM
#15
Really, from a business perspective, it makes no sense for them to keep the price that high, because nobody is donating now. Why are they not just scaling it to dollar value?
legendary
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Merit: 1001
July 20, 2014, 01:02:34 AM
#14
is there a place that users can view the forums current financial status (like the monthly income, likely from advertising, expenses, and assets and liabilities if applicable)?

This thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/forum-funds-155000 shows how much bitcoin the forum has and where the bitcoin is, and it was last updated in March 2014. Smiley
newbie
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July 20, 2014, 12:21:59 AM
#13
We wouldn't necessarily need to make VIP status cost the same as it did in 2011 in terms of fiat as $50 would not go as far as it would today since there are many more users using the forum's resources today.

I would suggest to maybe lower the price for VIP status to maybe $500 or $1,000 as this would probably pay for the same amount of bandwidth and hosting in terms of time.

This has been discussed countless times already, and theymos' answer is a "no".

I said a long time ago that the prices would remain the same, so I can't change this policy now in any case.

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Are the new ranks' price going to be variable or adjusted every x days or months depending on BTC price?

Maybe. I haven't thought about it much yet. The forum doesn't need donations, so I'm not going to create another donator level soon.
is there a place that users can view the forums current financial status (like the monthly income, likely from advertising, expenses, and assets and liabilities if applicable)?
sr. member
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July 19, 2014, 09:57:06 PM
#12
oldest price I could find on bitcoincharts [3] is from 2011-09-13 ~5 USD per BTC. The donations come from a time when BTC wasnt worth as much. It was discussed often if the amount to donate for VIP should be lowered, but theymos and others in charge think it would not be fair to those that donated 50 BTC in the past. I also think its a good idea that VIP essentials says: I have been here a long time and I believed in it. If the amount to donated would be lowered to e.g. 0.4 BTC (~ equivalent in USD to 50 BTC 2011) we'd see way to many VIPs.

With the price of a single bitcoin increasing every year, I think there should be a third category for people who donate a lesser amount, e.g. 1 BTC. Or perhaps different tiers such as bronze donator: 0.01 BTC, silver: 0.1 BTC, gold: 1 BTC, and platinum: 10 BTC. Existing donators would be given platinum status and VIPs would remain as VIPs.
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 100
July 19, 2014, 04:48:13 PM
#11
OK cool.   The last donation in 2011 was only $50......so I guess bitcointalk is rich now   Tongue
The forum likely spent a lot of the bitcoin that was donated on server hosting and bandwidth so all the donations of 50 BTC are likely spent.
legendary
Activity: 858
Merit: 1000
July 19, 2014, 01:03:01 PM
#10
OK cool.   The last donation in 2011 was only $50......so I guess bitcointalk is rich now   Tongue

Yeah, they are. There was a debate about it, but theymos said it is a No.
member
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July 19, 2014, 09:22:17 AM
#9
OK cool.   The last donation in 2011 was only $50......so I guess bitcointalk is rich now   Tongue
hero member
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Merit: 500
July 18, 2014, 07:30:59 PM
#8
We wouldn't necessarily need to make VIP status cost the same as it did in 2011 in terms of fiat as $50 would not go as far as it would today since there are many more users using the forum's resources today.

I would suggest to maybe lower the price for VIP status to maybe $500 or $1,000 as this would probably pay for the same amount of bandwidth and hosting in terms of time.

This has been discussed countless times already, and theymos' answer is a "no".

I said a long time ago that the prices would remain the same, so I can't change this policy now in any case.

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Are the new ranks' price going to be variable or adjusted every x days or months depending on BTC price?

Maybe. I haven't thought about it much yet. The forum doesn't need donations, so I'm not going to create another donator level soon.
full member
Activity: 183
Merit: 100
July 18, 2014, 06:51:46 PM
#7
If you check the donation address [1] as its linked under donate you will see that the last donation for 50 BTC was in 2011[2].
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2011-08-29 18:27:47

oldest price I could find on bitcoincharts [3] is from 2011-09-13 ~5 USD per BTC. The donations come from a time when BTC wasnt worth as much. It was discussed often if the amount to donate for VIP should be lowered, but theymos and others in charge think it would not be fair to those that donated 50 BTC in the past. I also think its a good idea that VIP essentials says: I have been here a long time and I believed in it. If the amount to donated would be lowered to e.g. 0.4 BTC (~ equivalent in USD to 50 BTC 2011) we'd see way to many VIPs.



[1] https://blockexplorer.com/address/17RTTUAiiPqUTKtEggJPec8RxLMi2n9EZ9
[2] https://blockexplorer.com/tx/d893352488aedbd229e908acd10bd2650ce6254a32e2f6ddfc84f18c0e3e666e#o0
[3] http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg60zczsg2011-08-13zeg2011-09-13ztgSza1gSMAzm1g10zm2g25zv
We wouldn't necessarily need to make VIP status cost the same as it did in 2011 in terms of fiat as $50 would not go as far as it would today since there are many more users using the forum's resources today.

I would suggest to maybe lower the price for VIP status to maybe $500 or $1,000 as this would probably pay for the same amount of bandwidth and hosting in terms of time.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
July 18, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
#6
I was looking at the donation page and it says people donated 50 and 10 bitcoins?Huh isn't that like 10,000 to 50,000 dollars depending on the price of bitcoin?

You are surprised only because you don't know how much expensive can be a pizza.  Tongue

Very true. When you can get a VIP tag for the price of 1/200 of a pizza, it is a bargain lol. Cheesy


hero member
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a clockwork miner
July 18, 2014, 08:27:28 AM
#5
I was looking at the donation page and it says people donated 50 and 10 bitcoins?Huh isn't that like 10,000 to 50,000 dollars depending on the price of bitcoin?

You are surprised only because you don't know how much expensive can be a pizza.  Tongue
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