Topic: Don’t Buy Bitcointalk Account as a Newbie - page 3. (Read 721 times)

Regardless of your position, it's still discouraged in the forum to buy or even sell an account. Most especially for newbies where you should focus more on acquiring basic knowledge and information so you can understand the nature of bitcoin and its market itself.

Now, if your purpose is to participate and earn from a signature campaign, then the more that you should know bitcoin well and take the learning process.

Remember that, signature campaign aims to provide quality and valuable posts that will educate the reader itself, and any newbie in position won't be able to achieve that without taking much time learning and understanding not only the forum but most especially bitcoin and all its stuff that revolves around the crypto market.

From the title, it seems that only beginners should not buy BTT accounts, and what about others who are much more experienced? To be honest, it was never normal for me, but even there before 2015 it was quite normal to publicly buy and sell BTT accounts, things changed only after that.

I remember one case where a Legendary member was caught in plagiarism, and then he claimed that the plagiarized posts were from the previous owner, which was even proven by the forum administration.

In any case, you cannot forbid anyone from selling/buying BTT accounts and merits, and this is certainly happening in the background, the only question is to what extent.

It will be very easy to dictate a high-ranking account that a newbie handles. The level of knowledge about discussions, especially regarding the forum will be very shallow. These newbies can do research and engage in discussion but it takes time to understand the forum's culture. Sometimes you just see a high-ranking account applying for a campaign even when it is clearly written CFNP. Most of them do not understand these terminologies because they are not the owners of their accounts. Their intention is just to aim for money, so they just apply for these subscriptions without understanding. Buying an account is like building a house from the roof instead of starting from the foundation.     

Those who are in a haste to acquire an already established account raise questions. What exactly is their motive? Are they seeking benefits or trying to scam people by appearing trustworthy?

You know it's not easy to build a reputable account in the forum; it requires time, energy, and dedication. For someone to want to bypass this process, there's already a red flag. Similarly, when someone sells their established account, it raises suspicions. What went wrong after working hard to build it? Why sell it off?

Buying an account is not advisable because both parties usually have ulterior motives, which are unclear. It's best to take your time and work your way up the ladder. It's more profitable and safe.

Come on . Are you pretending now, or are you trying to pretend to be someone who doesn't know all the benefits of high ranks?
Everyone understands perfectly well that to raise an account to good ranks, not only knowledge is required but also time. Even those people who can write good posts, those who receive a sufficient number of merits, cannot quickly get the rank of legend. And here such "benefactors" come to the rescue, ready to sell an account with a high rank.
There is a big difference in the interests of people coming to the forum. Someone comes out of interest in Bitcoin, and someone is going to use the forum to earn money, and there are most of them. The one who buys an account will most likely be detected; on the other hand, to attract the attention of the company's signature manager, active participation in the forum is necessary. So even with a purchased account, getting into the company's signature is quite a difficult task for such accounts today.

That's true; the buyer has no idea all the transactions committed by the seller. You may be buying a scammer account and you will shoulder all the bad actions the seller has taken so its high risk buying an account because you have no idea what's the whole history of the account.
Its better to start with fresh new account and work your way to the ladder; there's a feeling of satisfaction for every rank you achieve, so challenge yourself and go to the process.

They can use their money to buy accounts but they must know risk of get reported in Old Accounts That Have Likely Been Hacked/Traded. Account change hands can trigger forum security to lock that account too.

If you are an account buyer, you will nearly not able to prove that your original owner and claim your account back through account recovery procedure in the forum. It's biggest risk by spending money for purchasing account, and at the end, it's locked and becomes useless.

If it won't be locked, you will not be able to use it too well because forum members will report it in the shared thread.

It's been frown upon to buy accounts, and this is the very reason why the merit system was introduced way back in 2018 to curb this practice.

So not sure if there are still people who buy accounts here.

Perhaps one reason though is to run a scam, specially if they will buy like a old Legendary account. Nevertheless, most of us here have been in this community for the last 7 years that we can smell if a account is bought and there are a lot of great members here who can do a full investigation and see that it really change hands already.

Well, you may be right about the versatile experiences of the campaign managers especially in selection of accounts based on quality posting but am not really sure they can always decipher which account is a bought account or not in the selection process except for where recent posting quality drops or a pattern change in posting style is suspected which is something any old forum member can also easily identify.  Having said that, I also believe not all bought accounts are identified in the course of time as there are persons who get smart enough to get away with it.

Well as starter if you buy some will tagged that account as purchased account. Though buying and selling is allowed the DT system doesnt permit it at least for users who has compassion on dont having multiple account.

Maybe for expert one already in here and got familiarity probably he/she can mind or handle it the only thing is how can he prove its not bought account.

there's always this stigma that comes with buying of account and it mostly suggest that you're the kind of person that doesn't follow due process and if that's the case, the likelihood that you bought the account to carry out scam activity is going to be high.

If there's a need to have an alternative account for some genuine reason of maybe expressing yourself in matters you wouldn't want to do with your main account like I've observed from some top forum members, I don't think that's against the forum rules but buying account generally is not the best of practice and will even make it look like all the people that struggle to build their account and reputation from scrash are being  foolish. Make the sacrifice of building your account from scrash, learn about the forum and Bitcoin and in the process of doing so  you're going to have the best of journey on the forum going forward.

So, does it mean buying an account as an user who already familiar with the forum is advisable, good and correct decision?

I don't see a good reason to buy Bitcointalk account even it's for participating in signature campaign because post frequency, quality post, merit history etc are important, just because you have a legendary account without negative trust, there's no guarantee you will be accepted.

More importantly, someone can use your account to commit scam, which harm your personal life if the victim is serious to find the owner.

One thing about buying an account is that is makes you shift your focus from learning to wanting to earn.

Buying that account requires you money and the typical human being will want to recover his money back therefore, it would lead to him being more interest in ways to earn from the forum and quick for that matter, this will lead to low quality posts from the users and in most cases 'spam'.

The forum isn't against account buying but you're going to get into lots of trouble from the community. It's quite easy to spot an account that has changed hands because the data are publicly available so if you have thought about buying one, give it a rethink.

There isn't a trusted market out there on account buying so you'll be dealing with scammers most of the time and you might end up getting scammed. It isn't worth it as building your account will benefit you in all angles from the knowledge part to the experience you get.

Such actions will only make things more difficult for yourself in the end, it will look premature trying to be at a high level without going through the process from the initial stage. Sometimes choosing shortcuts is not as effective as expected due to limited knowledge levels which can hinder the interaction process in the forum. If we talk in the context of Beginners, anyone can buy an account, but they will find it difficult to produce quality posts due to lack of knowledge.
The reason may be because they want to be accepted quickly into a signature campaign with higher pay, but who can guarantee that the campaign manager will accept them, especially since the level of competition is getting tighter.

If they want to join signature campaigns paid in bitcoin, that are good campaigns, they will not be able to join these good campaigns with bought accounts. These campaigns are managed by professional and experienced so they have enough skills to detect bought accounts and surely they will not accept bought accounts with low quality post history.

People who bought accounts can only join signature campaign in altcoin bounties, that don't require quality post history, and it is more easily for account buyers to join.

Asides cheating,I can help you with one major reason among many. Which is, they want to jump the gun! They think it's stressful growing an account in the forum from scratch and they just needed an already made, so in no time they can get acceptance into a signature campaign.

If not for a signature campaign what else could make a newbie or anyone buy an account when he can freely create one and grow it even as the user will gradually also grow in knowledge too.

Funny thing is, even users with bought account could still make it to this thread and make condemnation replies about account buying. Lol

Buying and selling accounts is allowed by forum rules but it is discouraged by forum rules and forum community because if a person does not want to be an organic member, there is something suspicious with bought account, for scam, for gain trust, for spam ...

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

We should also consider if and why the forum supports buying of account because to me it's like giving a passage for impersonations.
Other hand, if concluded,then anyone can always buy an account and study through on due processes of mastering how the forum works. Inclusively, newbies buying of high ranked accounts may not really know what it takes to build an account from scratch in the forum and so may lost cautiousness and the qualities of appreciating such a beared top acquired rank member in other to be utilized.

Perhaps you wrote highly of the disadvantages of buying a Bitcointalk account which equally means that it's advantage would probably be high too but I'm my opinion there is no advantage to buying an account that has been there for long mean while you can skip the limitations on a brand new account by purchasing the copper membership.

I don't see any reason why someone would want to buy an account in this forum except for cheating or selfish reasons that are probably going to be scams.

The forum is open to all as much as Bitcoin itself is open to all but there are some things that shouldn’t be done.

Buying an account as a newbie is like jumping high school to go to college ( you’ll just be floating)

Some of the effects of buying an account includes;
1. No Proper Knowledge:
A while back there was this post where a hero member was asking a question about merits which he isn’t supposed to, his question just exposed him and proved that he didn’t grow that account. In his defence he said he’s been away for a long time but no matter how long, if you’re truly the owner who got to Hero member level you won’t forget how the merit system works.
You miss the learning process, where you gather all confidence, Rules and regulations, experiences, a whole lot.

2. You Risk Loosing the Account:
Plagiarism which is a big offense in any write up, dissertation, Projects and publishing is also not acceptable here in the forum. The previous owner might have done one or two offenses in his/her early stages which you’re not aware of and this might cost you in the long run.

3. Reputation/Scam:
Depending on the level of account you purchased, I think You might not be able to keep up with the reputation of the person cos no two minds are alike.
Some people can even use it to scam other individuals, based on the reputation of the previous owner.

4. Making Low quality posts:
The experience and creativity garnered during the growing process will be lacking. Sometimes you see some posts from high level members looking weak and poor, due to laziness to properly research.


I think there are so many other Reasons why you shouldn’t buy an account but this is just as I’ve known.
It’s not advisable as a newbie to buy an account.

You can add other general disadvantages that concerns everyone.