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Quote from: uneng on February 18, 2024, 03:06:27 PM

Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

Not anyone, but something called addiction can force you to practice what you consciously dislike or wouldn't like for yourself, due to knowing the implicit negative consequences it will bring. Still, many people are doing what they dislike, because they have become slaves of addiction. That is why the self-exclusion feature was implemented at online casinos, so gamblers can freeze their accounts in sane moments they aren't being afflicted by temptations of addiction. However, by your report, it seems not every casinos are taking this feature seriously, as they are enforcing 90 days account activity before finally closing it.

In my opinion, that shouldn't be a requirement, because addictions may not take so long to manifest. In 90 days the damage an addicted gambler can do may be already huge, what means it's going to be harder to fix it. Self-exclusion should be available at any moment, despite how old our account is.

That is a critical point regarding the effectiveness and accessibility of self-exclusion features in online casinos, especially in addressing the immediate needs of people struggling with addiction. Addiction can indeed lead people to engage in behaviors they consciously dislike, often despite being fully aware of the negative consequences. The implementation of self-exclusion tools is a step in the right direction, providing individuals with a mechanism to take control of their gambling habits and seek respite from the cycle of addiction. But the effectiveness of these features can be compromised if there are barriers such as lengthy waiting periods before account closure.

Given the urgent nature of addiction and the potential for significant harm within a short timeframe, it's crucial for online casinos to prioritize the accessibility and responsiveness of self-exclusion mechanisms. Waiting periods of 90 days may not adequately address the immediate needs of people in crisis and could allow for further harm to occur during this time. Ideally, self-exclusion should be available at any moment that allows people to take decisive action to protect themselves from the harmful effects of addiction as soon as they recognize the need for intervention.

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Probably, those 90 days have something to do with their KYC policy and the way casinos have to comply in providing personal data to authories. There is something similar going on with exchange accounts, you can ask for the casino staff to delete your account, but your personal information won't be deleted after some months within data base of clients.
Since, we are talking about policing money laundering and stopping criminals from having access to their funds, it is logical they would not allow someone to delete their account after opening it pretty much the same day, if the casino allows it, I am sure regulators would suspect on such activity.

Either way, people have already told you all you need to do is just stop using it. Perhaps, I would also add some alarm or reminder on my phone calendar, so I could try to delete the account again in three months. It is worth a shot.
One should not have account one does not use laying around, it creates a cyber security risk against you.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

I opened a betting account today _{(don't have to mention)} but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

Nobody is forcing you to play. If you don't want to play, then don't play. You can't force them to block/delete your account too. It is their business and they will do whatever they want with it. Yes the account is yours but the host (website) is theirs... If you think you won't resist and play again, then you should take professional help. Even if that casino blocks/deletes your account, you will probably find some other place to play anyway. It is not the casino's responsibility to treat your addictions. They can show you the way like we do here but ultimately it is your duty to get rehabilitated.

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This is just a trivial thing, at least you can make withdrawals and deposits smoothly, and in general casinos say that, I once applied for an account blocking because I intended to stop gambling, but they said they would block my account within 6 months. there is no activity whatsoever, that's the casino's trick to keep its customers from leaving, because we will definitely open the account occasionally

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Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

Not anyone, but something called addiction can force you to practice what you consciously dislike or wouldn't like for yourself, due to knowing the implicit negative consequences it will bring. Still, many people are doing what they dislike, because they have become slaves of addiction. That is why the self-exclusion feature was implemented at online casinos, so gamblers can freeze their accounts in sane moments they aren't being afflicted by temptations of addiction. However, by your report, it seems not every casinos are taking this feature seriously, as they are enforcing 90 days account activity before finally closing it.

In my opinion, that shouldn't be a requirement, because addictions may not take so long to manifest. In 90 days the damage an addicted gambler can do may be already huge, what means it's going to be harder to fix it. Self-exclusion should be available at any moment, despite how old our account is.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

I opened a betting account today _{(don't have to mention)} but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

You are not being forced by the support team to deposit more money and play again. Since you have already withdrawn your funds, you are not required to deposit again or request to block your account, as there is no money left in your account. If you do not wish to play again on that website because there are no games that suit your interests, simply refrain from opening it again.

There is a distinction between being forced to play and receiving an answer based on the policy that requires using your account for 90 days before requesting to be blocked. If you believe that customer support is pressuring you to use your account due to their response, you misunderstood him.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

I opened a betting account today _{(don't have to mention)} but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

No one can as long as you don't deposit any money to the platform.You need to check thoroughly the platform before depositing any money as most casinos and sport betting gives you the option to register without depositing any money to just search around the different options they provide and if you like it you deposit money and enjoy their games which are in synchrony with what you love and expect.

If you don't you simply don't fund the account and leave the account inactive until the policy of the casino delete it when 3,6 or 12 months have passed and the account has 0 activity tied to this.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

I opened a betting account today _{(don't have to mention)} but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

Virtual games are completely pointless, the casino behind the scenes controls all the levers and can manipulate you to lose at the rate that they decide. You are basically playing on a glorified random number generator with a fancy front end and some entertaining noises coming out of it. It's definitely a much better idea to wait until the funds are returned to your external wallet before letting the casino know that you do not want to use their services again. Why use two double negatives "don't dislike", it makes it very hard to understand the point that you're trying to convey. Are you trying to say nobody can force you to place bets, well that is plainly obvious and a casino would not last long unless they honor the wishes of their customers.

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Quote from: piebeyb on February 13, 2024, 05:36:41 AM

I think your method is correct, it's best not to contact them to freeze your account, whereas as far as I know, accounts that don't have funds and are no longer active will usually be blocked by the casino. I've also had cases like that where I've left the casino account. for a long time and didn't have funds there but then I tried to log in to my account but it seemed like it had been frozen and blocked so I couldn't make deposits, withdrawals and play.

The point is, if you really don't like the games at the casino, you don't have to continue playing there as long as you have withdrawn all your money, just leave, unless you have already given your identity to the site, of course it might harm you too, but If indeed you have never sent your identity to the casino and have withdrawn all your money, just leave it like that because they will freeze your account and your remaining funds there in the next few months, therefore it is better to withdraw all the money then just leave it and move to a site that you think has more complete bets than you want.

Same to what happened with my old gambling accounts, where at first I thought I forgot my password but I wonder why no emails arrived after I attempt to recover them and I asked the support about it only to find out that they are deleting inactive accounts.

I guess it's needed in order to reduce the load on their system but I think they can also give an announcement about it on our registered emails if we still want to retain the account or not anymore, so it's important to pay attention to it. If the site is trusted then we should not worry about your KYC, unless only if they got hacked but this is why it's important to choose a casino that don't require a KYC.

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 14, 2024, 12:45:37 PM

You are the one who created the issue which in the first place, shouldn't be an issue.

There are no such actions done by the platform which actually looks like they are forcing their user to use the account. From the very first place, their platform, their own rules. Even let's say there's an act of forcing their user to use the account before blocking, you can't use the argument that it's your money, your rules since you should know the terms from the very start, and no one forces you to join the platform.

Next time, don't make simple problems too much to handle.

That's right. The OP is making a mountain out of a molehill. No one is forcing you to use their platform, and no one made you sign up in the first place. I understand that you want to close an account that you're no longer planning to use, but it's a simple issue that's resolved with simple solutions; just don't use them. Put a reminder up to send them an email in 90 days to block your account; till then, withdraw your funds and abandon your account. Their platform, their rules, and you agreed to them upon signup, but you probably didn't read them as most of us don't; they're might be doing it to tempt you, not to force you; that's not possible.

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After reading your whole story, I dont see any issue at all because you are the one who make it as an issue. If you take it as an issue, means that the issue is on yourself because you are not forced to be in the casino to spend your money. Dont rely on the casino if you want to stay away from any casino by asking the casino to block your account or to have self exclusion. Start it from yourself, delete your browser history and forget your account is better things to do than asking the casino to block your account.

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Quote from: wiss19 on February 14, 2024, 08:24:33 PM

Quote from: aioc on February 14, 2024, 11:18:12 AM

There's nothing you can do it's their casino and they have the right to implement their own rules, they are not scamming you, it is about the issue of your account, they don't to close it immediately because they know the psychology of gamblers they will always come back to play and sometimes forgot that they requested their account to be close.
It benefits the casino because they can always regain what you've won or you will continue to play and lose money, so the solution to this is to practice control of your behavior in gambling, you should stop when you want to stop or go on leave when you want to leave, and don't leave your fate to the casinos

I don't know the actual reason behind it, but most companies have this policy where you can get your account disabled but it can't be deleted or removed before about 2 months or 60 days. It might have something to do with what you mentioned but it's not confirmed because there can be some other reason behind it. However, someone needs to make sure that they are aware of all the terms and policies of a company or platform before using it.

Most gamblers, or general users on the internet, don't read the terms and conditions or policies of a platform or service that they are about to use, and later when they face some sort of problem, they start blaming the platform for it instead of thinking that the policy existed even at the time they were registering for the platform or service.

Indeed, most gamblers or people do not read the terms and conditions of a service carefully so they will experience problems after knowing that the service prohibits it. And the same goes for casinos. They have their own regulations, so they won't want to block user accounts immediately if there is no cheating or things that endanger the casino business. That's a normal thing so as gamblers, we have to know what we need to do before we register at the casino so that we won't do something like that. Casinos know that gamblers will return to the casino again shortly, whatever their results so the casinos will not want to block their users' accounts.

When the gambler returns to the casino and deposits some money, the casino will be prepared to get the money again if the gambler loses at gambling. As gamblers, we have to be wise in responding to this, and if we really don't want to go back to the casino, we can just leave our gambling account and not use the casino.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

I opened a betting account today _{(don't have to mention)} but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

Are you able to withdraw the mother since you said that you withdrew the funds and then mailed them to block your account? If you already withdrew your funds then there was no problem with that for sure since you already withdrew your funds they are just saying that it would take 90 days before they can block your account, probably normal so you could think about it if you really wanted to block deactivate the account, I mean it's a gambling website you could make a lot of decisions base on your emotion so its probably there thing to have 90 days time.

There will be a problem if the gambling websites do not allow you to withdraw your money and then it would take 90days before you could withdraw it, at that time you could easily lose your money since that is probably what they wanted that is why they put 90days to hold your account first, That's a big red flag for sure, You should be able to deposit and withdraw your funds on the website at any time that you wanted. They just need 90 days for the account to be blocked then just dont play if you dont have a choice but after withdrawing the funds dont play on that website again.

As long you do able to withdraw then i dont really see any issues to this, you are really just that complaining because they cant be able to block out your account just because you dont like for you to play anymore.
You do find it non appealing because they cant just grant your request on which it is really just that normal that they would really be following their own rules and not yours. If you do find out that this thing isnt good for you then you are free anytime on finding another platform that would really be able that suits out your needs or interest but just like on what others been saying that this isnt really that much of an issue.

The only important thing when you do play gambling on a particular platform is that you do able to make withdrawal and this is something that should really be that standard thing
and this is why it would be always best that you should really be that dealing into those sites on which does have that reputation and does have that credibility.
So it would really be just vary, dont make yourself that loving on making some demands. lol

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Quote from: aioc on February 14, 2024, 11:18:12 AM

There's nothing you can do it's their casino and they have the right to implement their own rules, they are not scamming you, it is about the issue of your account, they don't to close it immediately because they know the psychology of gamblers they will always come back to play and sometimes forgot that they requested their account to be close.
It benefits the casino because they can always regain what you've won or you will continue to play and lose money, so the solution to this is to practice control of your behavior in gambling, you should stop when you want to stop or go on leave when you want to leave, and don't leave your fate to the casinos

I don't know the actual reason behind it, but most companies have this policy where you can get your account disabled but it can't be deleted or removed before about 2 months or 60 days. It might have something to do with what you mentioned but it's not confirmed because there can be some other reason behind it. However, someone needs to make sure that they are aware of all the terms and policies of a company or platform before using it.

Most gamblers, or general users on the internet, don't read the terms and conditions or policies of a platform or service that they are about to use, and later when they face some sort of problem, they start blaming the platform for it instead of thinking that the policy existed even at the time they were registering for the platform or service.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

I opened a betting account today _{(don't have to mention)} but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

Are you able to withdraw the mother since you said that you withdrew the funds and then mailed them to block your account? If you already withdrew your funds then there was no problem with that for sure since you already withdrew your funds they are just saying that it would take 90 days before they can block your account, probably normal so you could think about it if you really wanted to block deactivate the account, I mean it's a gambling website you could make a lot of decisions base on your emotion so its probably there thing to have 90 days time.

There will be a problem if the gambling websites do not allow you to withdraw your money and then it would take 90days before you could withdraw it, at that time you could easily lose your money since that is probably what they wanted that is why they put 90days to hold your account first, That's a big red flag for sure, You should be able to deposit and withdraw your funds on the website at any time that you wanted. They just need 90 days for the account to be blocked then just dont play if you dont have a choice but after withdrawing the funds dont play on that website again.

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You have the option to not log in to that account anymore. You don't have to ask support to close that account on your behalf. You knowingly dolislike thw options in there, and there is that possibility from you to deposit to that account if ever you thought of playing. Better not do it like that, else you're only creating trouble for yourself and your funds as well.

Closing an account is an option, but choosing not to log in play is another, too.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

I opened a betting account today _{(don't have to mention)} but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

The winning was made with the multiple of the money based on the money,it was the reason many gamblers get into the casino.The gamblers who get the multiple with the maximum of 12x of the initial will change the entire game.Because the gamblers who made the winning will surely back to the game to earn the same multiple of 12x in the game.But the gamblers need to understand the 12x will not occur all the time.The gamblers should target on the other multiples to increase their wallet balance.The multiple of 2x,3x,4x,6x also should be used by the gamblers instead of targeting the maximum multiple of the gambling site.

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If you never want to return to their casino again, why do you need to open an account there? Gamblers who open an account at one casino are interested for many reasons, and they will use the casino for a while, or maybe they will use it for a long time. You do not need to contact the casino to block your account because your account will be automatically blocked if you do not use it for some time. So you don't need to bother asking them to block your account. Moreover, they can check the accounts of all their members and see who is still actively gambling at the casino. If they see that you never gamble at their casino again, they will immediately close your account without asking you because they can do it easily.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on February 12, 2024, 04:32:54 PM

I opened a betting account today _{(don't have to mention)} but when I bet on their virtual games, they don't have the kind of options I am expecting to see but only provides more like only 4 options which are home win, away win, draw and over. So I bet if I could win but luckily for me I won ×2 of what I deposited, then I withdrawed the funds and mailed them to block the account because I don't find anything suitable for my liken but they replied me saying they can't and I have to make use of the account until 90 days before they can block the account.
However, it's my money and they can't force me to use it, so they have to block the account. I see that the only way to stay away from the betting account is not to fund it again.
So can anyone force you to make use of what you don't dislike?

It's very simple on what to do mate, just ignore the casino since you have already withdrew your funds. I don't know but it's seem you might have played atleast a bet with the money you deposited for them to actually allow withdrawal back because that's the rules of some casino site over because it shows that the account is not used for money laundering and I say this because I have come across many casino which I deposited funds and tried out their platform and found no interest and withdrawing back my funds took time because I had to wager the money first before withdrawal.

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Ones you are making use of something a all of a sudden you don't feel much comfortable with it, you just have to quite because you don't see anything that's interesting in it anymore.
Many casinos don't entertain people anymore because their options are not much and I can say when the options are more the predictions looks interesting also because bet predictors will want to take more of their time to make sure that their predictions are accurate, but when there is only 4 of the options it will be bored.

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