Topic: Don't trust LAUDA (Read 2024 times)

Lauda has managed some signature campaigns which did last very long the first one which was Bitmixer and the second one which is ongoing Coinpayments. So far I have not seen this person scam a single cent to the users or the managers of the campaign.

I am neutral in the stance regarding tagging accounts from Lauda but since this topic is about trust I think until now Lauda is a trustworthy member of this community.

Think again! But you only realize it when your shiny pretty account is suddenly spammed with red trust for nothing.

I never communicate directly with lauda, ​​but see it as one of the best in the forum I really believe it. She/He is the one who will clean the forun of spammers and scammers. What's wrong with that?
Why are you afraid if lauda gives you negative trust? If you do not make mistakes, I'm sure she/he will not do anything to you.

In the course of time you and lauda is far a little bit of time interval when registered. 
I think if you do it in voting who is the most popular and thrust worthy, lauda will surely win.
1774 vs. 350         activity
1440 vs. 264.        merit

so far. Let get ready to grumble.   

QS claims to have over 100 btc... odd that he is scamming for pennies, isn't it?

Quiet in here today.. has QS been busy shitposting on all his alt accounts for his mad sig moniez ?? I wonder how little that fool actually makes from his scamming ways?

Lauda is the person that has a lot of accusations which I often read in meta and in here. Actually who says that you should trust this person, trusting here to anyone is a kind of a great foolishness of a person. Everyone's identity is hidden, aside from this all have different motivation.
Most specially, this forum has many transactions which are money is involve, and everyone knows that money can ruin the trust.
Even I myself is not convinced by your statement and who cares with this opinion stated by a newbie like me.

Here is my last words: only a saint here which is a product of bitcoin you that can trust. But who is he? Even that person deserves no trust base on personal standard.

Somewhat, yes. This is one of the examples where I believe an alt account is justified (in most other cases, it isn't).


I expected it to be written after you getting tagged, which is what busted people usually do (and/or just simply attack the user that tagged them with whatever they can think of[1]). However, that is not the case here and I did notice the date before I even read it. That means that you aren't the classic type which became pretty predictable; good.
There are some things that I don't agree with on your article. However, I believe that this is not the place to continue this or address it. You might want to open your own thread in this section (about the article or the abuse) and continue there.

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[1] The OP and this whole thread is an example of this.

Wow ---> now we're on the same page!  And, I wasn't only bringing this up because it happened to me ---> if you notice, the article I cited above was written two years ago ---> ( https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@cjmoles/exposition-of-bitcoin-s-hidden-exploit )  And, since that time, I've engaged diligently in quite a bit of research.  I do know a little more than I've been letting on.  Actually, I know A LOT more than I've been letting on.

To clarify: This is me just sharing an example of what happened to others *by someone's hand* not long ago. "Thou shalt not speak of my abuse!" - seems to be their motto.

Sure, but your concerns are misplaced and the motivation behind them isn't pristine. Even if we assume that what was done to you was abuse, you are complaining about it because it happened to you. There is abuse on a much larger scale, by higher placed members going on right now[1]. That's where the complaint should be. If the tree is rotten at the root, then you shouldn't be blaming the branches. Because of this rot, we are here today. There is an absurdly high number of cases and the number of honest DT2 members is very limited. The number of active (honest) ones is even lower.
Once fixed at the core, the tree should start rejuvenating itself.

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[1] Backroom collusion by DT1 members.

Okay ---> I will take your advice and shut up before  ---> "things go downhill" for me.  I know how it works!  (Laugh Out Loud at the irony)  It truly has been a pleasure having this conversation with you and I apologize if it seems as though I were being an agitator because that wasn't my motive.  I only meant to engage in an honest discourse.

I've actually never seen any DT member state that publicly, in semi-private chatrooms or otherwise. Therefore, another baseless statement. You thread with care in your statements though; If you were to start naming people in these baseless accusations it would only go downhill for you (*someone* tagged some people for speaking out).

How about you just take a temporary break or completely leave the forum? That would be the best solution for your imagination.

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The rating is well deserved, even though I'm not tagging people for advertising that scam. I should, but I don't. There's only so much that can be done.

SMILE ----> Favors?  Is that how works?  See, that's the problem....I'm not asking for favors; in fact, the "you do this for me and I will do that for you" trust manipulation is exactly the problem I am trying to point out ---> the quid pro quo harassment and favoritism is the problem.  I just call it how I see it and I don't care about the red paint --->I care about being part of an honest community and it seems as though things have gone astray with the reputation system here ----> it's backassward!  It's not new; I've been saying this for a long time ---> https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@cjmoles/exposition-of-bitcoin-s-hidden-exploit

There is very little to no substance in your words. Although I do see the, what I usually point out as "whiny bullshit". Acting the way that you currently are is not going to get you any favors either.

Really?  Wearing a signature from a site I trusted and spent my own money at for several years could get me tagged red?  But extortion, running phony escrows, managing signature campaigns for fake cloud mining sercvices, and endorsing altcoins that pull exit scams will get one green trusted?  See ---> that's your problem, you're ethically challenged!  That's why your credibility is being questioned.  That is the philosophy of those within your trust manipulation syndicate ---> you see nothing wrong with green trusting those ripping people off for thousands and thousands of dollars while, at the same time, tagging people red for "giving too much merit," "posting too frequently," "using broken English," "having alt accounts," "requesting loans with unqualified collateral," and "wearing signatures advertizing competitive markets."

You know what's funny?  I never scammed anybody, yet I was tagged by somebody who was wearing the signature from a campaign manager who represented two separate clients which had both scammed me personally!  Yet, not so much as a neutral "Hey Bud, maybe it's not cool to be managing advertisement campaigns which are scamming thousands of dollars from people" was tagged in their profiles!  LOL ---> You creeps are just straight up dirty!  That's all.  That's all there is to it.  I'm done now.  Got that off my chest. Thanks for listening.

EDIT:  Awesome Avatar though ---> good job!

If you knowingly advertise some shady service[1], then don't be surprise if you get tagged. I don't see anything wrong in getting tagged for advertising Betcoin.

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[1] In no way can a objective tag of this sort be any kind of abuse.

Lauda, everything doesn't have to be about you! (SMILE) To be clear, I have lost much more than that on the forum....that's just the amount (7+ bitcoin) I've lost participating in specific campaigns promoted by campaign managers with green trust (who I do not blame) who's participating members, however, marked my trust red for merely wearing a competitive campaign's signature.  Trust abuse ---> by members who are also in your support network.  That's all.  The trust abuse is very corrosive and it needs to be exposed.

Well, the thread is about me thus my previous question. You said you'd lost over $70k to scammers. Elaborate?

I have no evidence of you personally scamming anybody....However, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence regarding the issue of "trust abuse" surrounding the reputation network that supports your position.  I am not here to accuse anybody ---> I am simply pointing out that the trust abuse needs to stop ---> My comment was a just a response to Yahoo's comment for which he may have some personal insight.  My main complaint is that there have been plenty of highly questionable events that have received no reputation demerits, while at the same time there has been a practice of ruining other user's reputations for extremely minor nuances.  The big question is thus: why does a small group of associated members, many of which have been involved in seriously negative events, have green trust, while a much larger base of members, whom have not been involved in any scams whatsoever, have red trust?  Isn't there something wrong with that correlation?

Again, I am not accusing anybody of a scam, but I am claiming that trust abuse is a serious concern.

Are you trying to state that I'm a scammer? Please clarify.

Really?

I have been silent on this for too long.  I also have problems with this syndicate of trust abusers.  It's been going on for too long now.  They use shills and sock puppets to discredit their competitors reputations while boosting the reputation of their own syndicate.  In today's BTC value, I have lost over $70,000 to scammers through campaigns this group has managed, yet my reputation has been painted red while their reputations continue to move up in status.  It's absurd!  I have been resigned to take my losses, but they are becoming significant enough now for me to consider judicial remedies of retrieval....This has to stop!

Laura lives in my basement ok.. enough of this shit - its out there.....

Mrs has been in the UK and the kids have been at Ski school all week, Laura has really been fucking me off though. Following me all over the house, coming in my office and sitting near my desk..



Personally I wish they would take the catnip and fuck off.

Laura is/was (dont remember) the reincarnation of the Cat who has been silently partolling this forum for a long time now. I dont know about you but I stumbled onto this Cat several times already. But sometimes I have felt that is not always a cat but something else - a mutual consensus of conscience.

^ Just my imagination.

Some people occasionally call me Laura. In most cases, it's unintentional. Some have, however, done it intentionally. Is it a fitting name to call me? Well, I can't neither confirm nor deny that. Let your imagination do its thing.

Who's laura? LOL.

He might have killed us all till now if he had the chance to get us all in a room. But his actions were enough to hit someone remotely.
I'm little bit scared about the bulldozer he is preparing though, soon we all be in jail (those who posted in this thread). 

He is not considering his crime as legit even there is a solid proof.

I asked him once about the reason for buying a hero account, but he intentionally ignored to answer. This also proofs that his intention was malicious.

You're throwing your hatred to everyone who posts this thread and has a different opinion of you. months ago I saw a guy doing the same thing you're doing and the results were not good... living with threats, vengeance and hate will not solve your problem.


We are in a forum where each person is anonymous, but as you can see I do not use any tool to make me anonymous... buy account is wrong and have very serious implications. But if you do not want to understand that then the problem is yours, but do not throw your hatred at everyone who disagrees with you


now you threat, you really need to take a vacation, go to the beach, take a coconut water and enjoy seeing many beautiful things... you will relax. imagine the following:

If you had the opportunity to be in a room where everyone from this forum was in this room, what would you do with everyone who gave you negative feedback:

1- ) Kill all?
2-) hit everyone?
3-) forget and move on (leave some time and then ask them to remove the negative feedback)?

If you want to receive negative ratings from the monkeys and their alts, sure.

But but, he wouldn't never attempt to do something shady with the account he/she would have bought.

can i join the gang? i like so much untrusted red from another red trust
red trust tried to buy account in past... for scam and spam

very funny point



retard shitty idiot, you win my red trust too, gg <3
the evidence you tried to buy account https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20233141 >> http://archive.is/1U1gX

The proper wording, that you should have used, is *gang*. Welcome.

I didn't know that I'm in Lauda's group gang till Thule pointed out this to me    for this reason he painted me with red.

@Lauda, you should now officially announce that I'm in your group gang. Any thoughts?  
I deserve a spot because I've taken a bullet from Thule in my chest which painted me with red.  

@Thule
Do whatever you want to do, but remember to mention the reason with proof and also answer the questions which you have intentionally ignored so far.

If you are referring to DT that will never happen. So neg them now and move on.. or bring your toy bulldozers whatever makes you happier special one

Anyone can post a negative trust
Not need particolar power or rank
Go in profile > trust > leave trust

Once given the power I will.

Then Neg Lauda and move on...

False moderation = red trust...

To see for all who open their eyes.

Trading accounts = red trust...

Nothing to see here move along folks

I guess you need the discovery of a false red tag at login to realize that the truth is quite different.

Lol!! Nothing will happen for sure!

You say one thing right
Community arent composed of stupid guys


I see your history, you try to buy accounts by auction
This is a bad action .. people going to buy accounts arent good

In most case who buy accounts want to scam or spam

You are just saying to don't trust Lauda. But I didn't find the right logic on it. They are making forum as a trusted platform and a good source. Always green trust on such folks. Forum needs more folks like him/her.

LOL, it wasn't a failure at all.  True, I have to retract all the negs I left shitposters, but I'm cool with that--very cool, because now Theymos implemented the merit system.  I don't know if that was already in the works, but I'm grateful it came about.  And the campaign of tagging shitposters got all of them to wake the fuck up.  I call that a success.

Blazed has been putting up with requests ad nauseam from members looking to have Lauda scratched out of existence for as long as he's had Lauda in his trust list.  Blazed seems to be a rock in that respect--so good luck trying to get anyone booted off DT.

Like i said it takes a bit longer to collect all evidences and to make sure a large scale of crypto users will read it.
I like to hit like a bulldozer.
Once hit you won't stay up anymore.

You guys are already clearly afraid so lauda already edited the mistakes he posted in public as he feeled so confident nothing could happen at his position.Some other group member start to not join and support you guys like they did in the past .....i guess to not get hit too.



The beauty of this community is that a big part is not stupid.Not posting much since they are making money but are reading a lot.And once they will read about your actions you can expect a shitstorm over you since you were destroying every value this board has with your moronic actions .

Blazed will be held responsible since i belive it was his only decissions to use you morons for it and still keeps justifying the abuse of hundreds of legit accounts even he admited it was a big failure.

I guess thats also the reason he doesnt reply to the accusation against him since he is now aware that he fucked up

Is anyone here a friend of Bill's?

But as to this topic....weren't we supposed to be privy to some bombshell that Thule was dropping on us at some point in the last 48 hours?  I seem to recall predicting it would be yawn-worthy, but I've not seen anything yet.  Just empty threats and trolling.  Boy, that almost sounds like something QS would do.  Thule, do you take two sides of a three-sided escrow deal, by any chance?

i want to spent two words on lauda
is kind moderator and answers to my stupid questions always

and i use him like escrow, never ONE problem with him
and cooperate for SMAS list, never ONE problem

i'm not in lauda gang (lol) but i trust him
i'm not trust in a "new" guy with alt-account

i would recommend keep searching there is another post where you also said to call these managers corrupt.

Happy searching and editing


Here from the same thread where Lauda edited his text to force and basicly abuse project managers and ITO's which deny to accept their rules


from LoyCev


And at the same time admits hundreds of legit accounts got destroyed and defamed because of their action .....and he is fully aware of it but didn't even care to fix them

I don't even..

I saw you edited your posts.I got it already archivised by a 3rd party service.
Let's see who the people are going to belive.
Your new sentence seems so educated and concerned about project managers LOL

Yeah Lauda thats you full of bullshit.It just proofs you are getting nervous and since i knew you are going to edit it i made before talking about it archives which can't be denied since they are made by 3rd party services.

So i wish you happy editing.It won't help you anymore

For the public.

He changed his sentence to force all managers and defame if needed into



Luckily i got everything archivised which will be posted on the article including proof Lauda is editing his own words to destroy all evidences.
People will see themself and can ask Lauda why he is editing it now or maybe ask Blazed why he isnt replying at all

None of those are my words. You're doing some strong drugs, it seems.

Hey Lauda you deny your own words you where talking in your group together with blazed ?

Whats up ?Why don't you stand to your own words?

Let me repeat this again:

You don't do that ?..... but already plan your next step to force (your own words) project managers or ITO's to accept your own made rules who they are allowed to accept and who not and if they won't agree you will defame them with your group and call in public corrupt (your own words) to make them comply against their will else you will destroy their reputation just because they disagree with your self made rules ?  

Is that a lie ?

I don't even do that. You need to get your head examined.

when are you going to call them scammers and destroy their accounts for low quality ?

i sent 0.025 btc to lauda. i received what was promised.

You're not offering any logical arguments here. Anybody that tries to argue against you is automatically part of Lauda's scam team and thus their opinion is invalid. Anybody that sides with you is automatically right.

With that kind of labeling, of course you would never be at fault.

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You seem to continually talk about the arbitrary rules that 'Lauda and his group' declared. Here's the thing: the trust system actually allows for that—subjectivity in feedback—since it is given at a user's discretion. Like for example, the feedback that you sent Slow death: "I don't like you.Am now going to use the Trust feedback the same way like Lauda and his group is doing which you support".

You're allowed to send negative feedback to someone you don't trust. That is, after all, how it's supposed to work. So if several community members don't think that account trading is trustworthy, are we not then allowed to send negative feedback?

which rules ?
The one Lauda and his group created themself ?

Maybe we will enforce now also the new rule they talked about to force project managers or ITO's to accept their guidelines which will tell them which users they are allowed to accept and which not and if they disagree the group will start defaming him or the whole ITO.

Seems to me a very legit person/group and a great plan with a positiv benefit for the whole community

But since you are also in Ad management i can understand why you join this scam

Probably, with some minor exceptions, the only actual competitor to ALU. Most campaign management services offered here are practically a joke. The whole argument being made is exactly that, a joke.

You people need to grow up. Tossing out scam accusations just because you are butthurt over a tag given to you. If you feel the tag was given in error, then contact the person whom tagged you and try to work it out. No amount of bullshit threads will help you.

And just an FYI, I am a competitor of Laudas and I do just fine. I would also trust Lauda to hold any amount of funds for myself or a project if they asked for an escrow, so your argument of Lauda is tagging all competitors is FALSE.

If you are following the rules of the forum and doing things as they should be done, you will have no problems with Lauda or any other of us DT users. Just common sense

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what drugs are you on? I want some.. I really do.

as for NA help I hear that OG Nasty and his fanclub are still recruiting

Have you ever been slapped by the famous wet trout? I have, it has given me more hopes and I'm addicted, do you know any NA sponsor?
Where is QS to merit the OP? and please don't address Lauda as a he, I have plans, they would only work on a she.
I'm looking for a topic on Lauda where no signature campaign is mentioned, OP has negative trust and he knows there is no way to participate in any signature campaign, he is just worried about other beggars.

OP, quote me, because I need those 400K people to know about my ITO a.k.a activity tokens and if there is any orphan teenage girl for holy matrimonial purposes, I am here (why orphan? because there is no family to force me to work, I could just make a paid prostitute out of her to earn for both of us).
(no I don't really care if my wife is a prostitute, I'd only have a jumping experience once in a week).

A heavy article? whooo I bet Lauda is shitting in underwear right now.. are you upset that your scam plans are all fucked? or are you just genuinely suffering with multiple retardation's ? I ask as I am worried about you.

let me know if you need some help, I know there is AA, GA and NA.. maybe a LA for people like yourself who cant get over your Lauda addiction??

False. The forum is not decentralized and if you read into the system as much as you say you have then you would come to that conclusion as well.

By the way, what the heck is an ITO?

Who? Do you want to finally answer a question or are you going to ignore it again?

I'm going to force them to take action.
I got defamed by them calling me a scammer where guideline clearly says its allowed and most important i asked a mod before doing it and who approved it.
They didn't fixed it in 24h so now they can expect a bulldozer to come which will also give shit about their opinons.

I read over the last 24h a lot of their posts and i can only say these people are total nuts and power hungry.

They clearly have no understanding of decentralisation but they try everything to centralise.
This forum was build with decentralised power so noone can get abused.

What they are trying to implement now is a centralised power able to abuse anybody and compeition without being responsible for that
they are even so nuts that they want force project managers and ITO's to follow their rules to only accept their recommended users or else they will be defamed.


They are clearly out of control

Soon there will be a heavy article which at least 400k crypto people will read and it will spread very quickly all over the internet


They abused so massivly the trust system that theymos was forced because of the high amount of complaints to add a new solution (merit)
These fuckers even celebrate that they got it done thanks to the trust feedback abuse.

They are the garbage of that forum and people should start reading their posts and threads and add the the hate they deserve

It is really bad that you got negative feedback from the DT member for involved in account sales transaction alone. Since they are DT they will not check you are good or not and all but you can create a thread to discuss in the meta section for make clear with that. Moderators will help on it accordingly. I too noticed that merit manipulation done by lauda.
In meta also there was the discussion created for this but still nothing to them. Hope theymos may watch DT members and others equally to check how the merit system working. Report to him directly.

Please use to report moderator option to share the power misuse to them. Good luck but don't get trouble with them that is my advice.

Let's see how quickly somebody is going to start selling a "trust bot" on this board to destroy accounts in seconds or push to heaven in seconds


Once the trust abuse and merit abuse is going to spread that forum will have a serious issue

@akamit i clearly proofed how dumb your are.Now go fuck yourself and your friends

for a poor guy like you who is already so long on this board here the guideline / rules of BCT

first two points

Q: Why haven't you banned who is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.

Q: Do you moderate/delete (possible) FUD, accusations and untrue information?
A: No. We don't have enough time to check every single piece of information and verify the validity of the sources. Also, just like scams - too much room for bias and abuse.

Q: I saw a guy selling Bitcointalk accounts. Why is that allowed?
A: Since we can't effectively prevent these sales (proxies, TOR, sales in other forums), we don't because otherwise we would be giving the users a false sense of security.


You already broke first 2 points.
Moderators don't want to abuse but a small group allows themself to abuse it massivly in the name of scam because they bought with their old lending businessess massivly accounts before.
They had no issues taking accounts as collateral and are now running bounty compaigns and destroying legit account and competition in the name of scam.
The only scam is the group which has been proved so many times to be wrong to abuse and they give a fuck.

Everything will be exposed soon.

Oh and the master defender of that forum are already massivly abusing the merit system but thats ok because its them.

FUCK YOU

You are supporting an exposed scammer and his group ?
Who are now absuing the trust and merit system for their own benefit and most important want soon to start treaten project managers and call them corrupt managers if they don't agree on their terms ?

You wanna read how Lauda has no issue calling project managers corrupt if they won't execute their recommendation ?Destroying a whole ITO because its not like they want it to be and as they don't make money out of it ?

The whole community needs to know proof and you can bet i will expose everything

Anyone taking Lauda for his ITO must be insane.He is so hated by the community because of his massiv abuse that he has to defend himself with his group everywhere.

He has already been in the past exposed for a big scam and lost his position as moderator.

Anyone taking him needs to know it will light a very bad light on your ITO.

TMAN was part of that scam thats why he keeps defending Lauda as he is part of the group.


You can read it here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17624090
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17811352

another scam of TMAN

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22327483
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17703267

Have a look who exposed them and have a look at their profil how they are trying hard to destroy his rep

What you are doing now is total spam and soon you will be ban from accessing this forum.

You have been negged because you did a wrong thing and also there is a solid proof which you cannot deny.
At that time you were Full member, so in common sense, you knew about buying & selling account is discouraged by the community. Still, you approached to buy a Hero member account.
Why you needed a Hero account? To abuse sig. campaign? To abuse bounty campaigns? To scam someone? Why, Why you needed that high ranked account?

It is not prohibited to create multiple accounts by Theymos nor it is against the forum rule. It is because someone may need an alt account for different needs.
Such as Darkstar, he has 2 accounts and he uses the other one when he is accessing the forum from an insecure place maybe. Though he has declared his alt account in "Known alts of everyone".

Accept that you are guilty and you have been punished > move forward, peace out!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827620.new#new

why can not we trust Lauda? do you have facts on this matter? I suggest better before you include the facts in the post. so others can believe what you say

   
Lauda/TMAN/minifrij extortion attempt

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/laudatmanminifrijironmarvel2owlcatz-extortion-attempt-1764757


funny always the same people

Lauda lost after that moderator status

OH i just saw TMAN got merit from Lauda and Lutpin
Lutpin from TMAN and Lauda
and Lauda from TMAN and Lutpin

Lauda already abusing the merit system in their inner circle

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/atriz-and-lauda-just-got-merit-2829282

Ohh did i mentioned that theymos has been informed about everything ?

@Lauda why are you deleting all posts on your threads ?

add so many negativ feedback as you want......Everything comes back tomorrow even to you

Here, have another negative on the house.  We all bought you a round.

Why you account buyer/sellers do crap like try to besmirch the fine name of some DT members, thereby calling attention to your own shady dealings is beyond me.  But this is exactly what dishonest scammers & spammers do all the time.  You go ahead and post evidence that Lauda is a scammer.  Start with that admittedly ill-advised sting operation, because that's never been mentioned before.

Going to add each day facts about Lauda and
how the trust system was abused by their team

Don't trust Lauda.

Abusing the trust system and destroying competitor with fake scam accusation.
Laura was accused for scam and was kicked out of staff as a result.

DO NOT TRUST THEM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrowing-on-demand-1938190