give it a rest
Seriously, the jealousy and butthurt vibe is near overwhelming. They can do what they like with their merit points, and it's not like legendaries need any of that anyway. Me, I could care less if I get merit points. It's a status symbol as far as rank goes if you're at the maximum already. But hey, keep creating mindless threads, hoping you'll accumulate enough merit so's you can rank your idiotic ass up. Whatever gets you off.
Topic: aTriz and Lauda just got merit! (Read 23258 times)
We should not waste time on it. There on screen we can see whats happened for 5 mins. I'm tired of trying to prove everybody legendary about their negative moves against newbies.
I tire of your crazed indignancyThese efforts in vain—a futility
Your words make no sense
Such a foolish offense
Won't you just stop this crass hostility?
That definitely has to be Eminem.
These rhymes are eminent.
/sReminded me more of this.
We should not waste time on it. There on screen we can see whats happened for 5 mins. I'm tired of trying to prove everybody legendary about their negative moves against newbies.
I tire of your crazed indignancyThese efforts in vain—a futility
Your words make no sense
Such a foolish offense
Won't you just stop this crass hostility?
That definitely has to be Eminem.
These rhymes are eminent.
/s 
We should not waste time on it. There on screen we can see whats happened for 5 mins. I'm tired of trying to prove everybody legendary about their negative moves against newbies.
I tire of your crazed indignancyThese efforts in vain—a futility
Your words make no sense
Such a foolish offense
Won't you just stop this crass hostility?
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Account connected Xynerise - 1250855 and DannyHamilton - 60820 - selling smerits.
That guy rewarded me "Merit farming (something intended to be EARNED) is a dishonest way to acquire it. Clearly this user is not trustworthy" without reference - good job
Betwixt your own cheeksAccount connected Xynerise - 1250855 and DannyHamilton - 60820 - selling smerits.
That guy rewarded me "Merit farming (something intended to be EARNED) is a dishonest way to acquire it. Clearly this user is not trustworthy" without reference - good job
You extract an argument
Yet, their posts are good.
Your proof does fall short of a framework
So go browse some more, that's your homework
Worry not little runt
And quit being a cunt
Least Xynerise can post 'bout the network
Poetic justice.
[...]
Account connected Xynerise - 1250855 and DannyHamilton - 60820 - selling smerits.
That guy rewarded me "Merit farming (something intended to be EARNED) is a dishonest way to acquire it. Clearly this user is not trustworthy" without reference - good job
Betwixt your own cheeksAccount connected Xynerise - 1250855 and DannyHamilton - 60820 - selling smerits.
That guy rewarded me "Merit farming (something intended to be EARNED) is a dishonest way to acquire it. Clearly this user is not trustworthy" without reference - good job
You extract an argument
Yet, their posts are good.
Your proof does fall short of a framework
So go browse some more, that's your homework
Worry not little runt
And quit being a cunt
Least Xynerise can post 'bout the network
Poetic justice.
Another proffesional spender 
Account connected Xynerise - 1250855 and DannyHamilton - 60820 - selling smerits.
That guy rewarded me "Merit farming (something intended to be EARNED) is a dishonest way to acquire it. Clearly this user is not trustworthy" without reference - good job
Account connected Xynerise - 1250855 and DannyHamilton - 60820 - selling smerits.
That guy rewarded me "Merit farming (something intended to be EARNED) is a dishonest way to acquire it. Clearly this user is not trustworthy" without reference - good job
I thought that initially Theymos had written something in the OP of the merit announcement thread about merit sources being prohibited from selling merit, but he seems to have reworded it and removed such language, but i am sure that he said it.
Therefore, I conclude that selling of merit is not illegal right? Since it is just a form of trading which theymos already have stated that it should not be an issue? Trading merit is pretty obvious tho. Unlike selling it in which it stays between the two persons involved. Good point there that if a certain user sells its merit then it isn't illegal? Correct me if im wrong then that certain user should not be tagged?https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/who-will-stop-lauda-2983886
The dude was doing merit abuse which AFAIK isnt against the rules yet but is 100% taggable by a DT member and that's what happened
BTW I haven't asked this thing to you anyway thanks for answering to questions, soon the public will know the real truth.
I thought that initially Theymos had written something in the OP of the merit announcement thread about merit sources being prohibited from selling merit, but he seems to have reworded it and removed such language, but i am sure that he said it.
Therefore, I conclude that selling of merit is not illegal right? Since it is just a form of trading which theymos already have stated that it should not be an issue? Trading merit is pretty obvious tho. Unlike selling it in which it stays between the two persons involved. Good point there that if a certain user sells its merit then it isn't illegal? Correct me if im wrong then that certain user should not be tagged?https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/who-will-stop-lauda-2983886
The dude was doing merit abuse which AFAIK isnt against the rules yet but is 100% taggable by a DT member and that's what happened
I thought that initially Theymos had written something in the OP of the merit announcement thread about merit sources being prohibited from selling merit, but he seems to have reworded it and removed such language, but i am sure that he said it.
Therefore, I conclude that selling of merit is not illegal right? Since it is just a form of trading which theymos already have stated that it should not be an issue? Trading merit is pretty obvious tho. Unlike selling it in which it stays between the two persons involved. Good point there that if a certain user sells its merit then it isn't illegal? Correct me if im wrong then that certain user should not be tagged?https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/who-will-stop-lauda-2983886
'Illegal' would not be the case as its just a minor issue on the forum, I can see how they might count it as a negative generally though. Merit to me is like a bookmark or a like on facebook, not a big deal just a nice feature. Its only at the low ranks its literally going to determine gaining a higher rank, to weed out poor use of forum. So in that context, enabling a spammer would still be really bad and merit would show evidence of that perhaps
I thought that initially Theymos had written something in the OP of the merit announcement thread about merit sources being prohibited from selling merit, but he seems to have reworded it and removed such language, but i am sure that he said it.
Therefore, I conclude that selling of merit is not illegal right? Since it is just a form of trading which theymos already have stated that it should not be an issue? Trading merit is pretty obvious tho. Unlike selling it in which it stays between the two persons involved. Good point there that if a certain user sells its merit then it isn't illegal? Correct me if im wrong then that certain user should not be tagged?When I wrote that statement, I was attempting to respond to Lauda's assertion that selling/trading merit was not clear from the forum rules. Further, in the past month, I had been a little bit concerned that some members were being tagged with Red trust in terms of accusations of selling/trading/soliciting merit even though the rules were not clear regarding that conduct.
So, yeah, I attempted to point out a couple of statements by Theymos regarding trading/ selling or soliciting merit.
I think that regarding merit sources, the rule is fairly clear that merit sources are prohibited to engage in any kind of behavior to sell or trade merit or to solicit such.
However, regarding regular members, it seems that technically it is not against the forum rules to sell/trade merit; however, it still would not prohibit other members from giving negative trust to regular members who are engaging in such selling/trading or even soliciting of merit (maybe if soliciting rises to the level of "excessive begging?").
So personally, I believe that for regular members it still probably would not be a good idea to sell or trade merit or to attempt to do so through soliciting, even though technically it does not appear to be against any specific merit rule - but it could still attract negative trust because it seems like a dubious kind of behavior....
I think that Theymos's is specific comment about NOT focusing on merit trading/selling of regular members being a "rounding error" is valid too, because the initially distributed merit is going to run out, and therefore the initial distribution of merit does not add up to a lot of merit that would end up being abused through selling/trading.
Therefore, it seems that it would be a kind of judgement call regarding how much selling/trading of merit behavior would justify giving negative trust.
Even if I do agree that selling or trading of merit is a complete dishonest. If the rules were not clear or would say that this certain act is not illegal then yeah probably giving a negative trust who is doing so is really a complete judgement call.
Tho this system was just released and it still has any loop holes that can be abused by anyone. I believe that there will be a lot of changes especially to this kind of issue which has always been issue for trust ratings.
I thought that initially Theymos had written something in the OP of the merit announcement thread about merit sources being prohibited from selling merit, but he seems to have reworded it and removed such language, but i am sure that he said it.
Therefore, I conclude that selling of merit is not illegal right? Since it is just a form of trading which theymos already have stated that it should not be an issue? Trading merit is pretty obvious tho. Unlike selling it in which it stays between the two persons involved. Good point there that if a certain user sells its merit then it isn't illegal? Correct me if im wrong then that certain user should not be tagged?When I wrote that statement, I was attempting to respond to Lauda's assertion that selling/trading merit was not clear from the forum rules. Further, in the past month, I had been a little bit concerned that some members were being tagged with Red trust in terms of accusations of selling/trading/soliciting merit even though the rules were not clear regarding that conduct.
So, yeah, I attempted to point out a couple of statements by Theymos regarding trading/ selling or soliciting merit.
I think that regarding merit sources, the rule is fairly clear that merit sources are prohibited to engage in any kind of behavior to sell or trade merit or to solicit such.
However, regarding regular members, it seems that technically it is not against the forum rules to sell/trade merit; however, it still would not prohibit other members from giving negative trust to regular members who are engaging in such selling/trading or even soliciting of merit (maybe if soliciting rises to the level of "excessive begging?").
So personally, I believe that for regular members it still probably would not be a good idea to sell or trade merit or to attempt to do so through soliciting, even though technically it does not appear to be against any specific merit rule - but it could still attract negative trust because it seems like a dubious kind of behavior....
I think that Theymos's is specific comment about NOT focusing on merit trading/selling of regular members being a "rounding error" is valid too, because the initially distributed merit is going to run out, and therefore the initial distribution of merit does not add up to a lot of merit that would end up being abused through selling/trading.
Therefore, it seems that it would be a kind of judgement call regarding how much selling/trading of merit behavior would justify giving negative trust.
I thought that initially Theymos had written something in the OP of the merit announcement thread about merit sources being prohibited from selling merit, but he seems to have reworded it and removed such language, but i am sure that he said it.
Therefore, I conclude that selling of merit is not illegal right? Since it is just a form of trading which theymos already have stated that it should not be an issue? Trading merit is pretty obvious tho. Unlike selling it in which it stays between the two persons involved. Good point there that if a certain user sells its merit then it isn't illegal? Correct me if im wrong then that certain user should not be tagged?
Lauda/aTriz, your boy just got caught plagiarizing. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-whole-truth-about-the-merit-system-2973511
Also you haven't mentioned where you met Lauda in the past?
I have never seen Lauda at any of the god parties.
Then you must seen somewhere to Lauda.
Back to on topic
You gotta admit you see their point.
There is no point. I can leave merit to whomever I want[1], wherever I want and in whatever amount I want. If you don't like it, then ask theymos to change the rules.[1] This works when you don't have an army of alts (see Quickseller et. al.).
1:1 What you and naypalm did, the difference being that he transferred more points.
Oh wait, he maxed it out at 50!
Fixed the sneaky out-of-context smear attempt. No wonder she left.
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There has been no love in that shack for a very long time.But I don't need them since it is not useful for me.
Well, Sending someone a merit is someone's personal choice. You can't force someone to give it nor that someone can force you to give a merit. Infact i can give you one right now yet i choose not to.
That does change the situation? Obviously not. There is no point in hitting lauda or that atriz for a freedom that the system gives to its user. If you are really butt hurt then I suggest to instead improve. Fight back in a more professional way
Regards,
But why do people are people that are selling them getting tagged with negative trust then? That does change the situation? Obviously not. There is no point in hitting lauda or that atriz for a freedom that the system gives to its user. If you are really butt hurt then I suggest to instead improve. Fight back in a more professional way
Regards,
Here is a kind of double standard taking place.I thought that initially Theymos had written something in the OP of the merit announcement thread about merit sources being prohibited from selling merit, but he seems to have reworded it and removed such language, but i am sure that he said it.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28856522
Oh I found this language in the merit page for merit sources:
>>>>>>You are a merit source. The next XXX merit you spend will come from your source rather than your sMerit balance. Merit spent from your source will come back in 30 days. Unused source merit is wasted. It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit.<<<<<<
I think that the closest language regarding regular members trading merits was this:
Merit sales, transfers to aliases, back-and-forth trading, etc. are not much of an issue. All illegitimate merit will decay, and will account for a tiny and very expensive fraction of the total merit economy. It's basically a rounding error; fight it where convenient, but waste no sleep over it.
I think that actmyname has been too hasty with some of his negatives, but I haven't had time to look carefully enough into it to justify making forceful changes. I did exclude actmyname from my trust list, so another DT1 could remove him from the default trust network by doing the same.
I think that actmyname has been too hasty with some of his negatives, but I haven't had time to look carefully enough into it to justify making forceful changes. I did exclude actmyname from my trust list, so another DT1 could remove him from the default trust network by doing the same.
From this post:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29540717
Well, Sending someone a merit is someone's personal choice. You can't force someone to give it nor that someone can force you to give a merit. Infact i can give you one right now yet i choose not to.
That does change the situation? Obviously not. There is no point in hitting lauda or that atriz for a freedom that the system gives to its user. If you are really butt hurt then I suggest to instead improve. Fight back in a more professional way
Regards,
But why do people are people that are selling them getting tagged with negative trust then? That does change the situation? Obviously not. There is no point in hitting lauda or that atriz for a freedom that the system gives to its user. If you are really butt hurt then I suggest to instead improve. Fight back in a more professional way
Regards,
Here is a kind of double standard taking place.Well, Sending someone a merit is someone's personal choice. You can't force someone to give it nor that someone can force you to give a merit. Infact i can give you one right now yet i choose not to.
That does change the situation? Obviously not. There is no point in hitting lauda or that atriz for a freedom that the system gives to its user. If you are really butt hurt then I suggest to instead improve. Fight back in a more professional way
Regards,
But why do people are people that are selling them getting tagged with negative trust then? That does change the situation? Obviously not. There is no point in hitting lauda or that atriz for a freedom that the system gives to its user. If you are really butt hurt then I suggest to instead improve. Fight back in a more professional way
Regards,
Here is a kind of double standard taking place.I thought that selling of merit was only disallowed for sources.
Selling is not allowed. There is no double standard.
There is a double standard. Both in trust and in merit. Don't be so hypocritical and stop lying. Things that you and your clique engage in are tolerated while the exact same actions by others are punished with red trust. Such as for instance the swapping of high amounts of merit points.
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